Gaslow turn off when filling?

[Allanm]

We only turn the gas off when we board the Eurotunnel, other than that it’s on all the time. We have a crash protection system and anti rupture pigtails on Gasit tanks.

 

[jollyrodger]

Twin Gasit refillables ,and out if habit turn everything off when filling ,and driving .Also was advised as @Gromett mentioned ,as I wouldn't know how regularly the pumps are maintained .

 

[iandsm]

As has been said, the instruction to always turn off when filling is plain enough in the Gaslow literature and one contributer had said a Gaslow engineer told him the same.

That’s good enough for me.

 

[Dorwyn]

I cannot access the main valve on my underfloor tank without putting the van up on ramps. i could turn it off on the internal manifold, so I assume that would be sufficient. This is fairly important, since I am shortly to do a return trip on the Eurotunnel, and cannot reasonably use the tank's main shut-off valve. Advice, please.

 

[Westerham Womble]

Just adding my personal experience, filling our Gaslow system without turning off the valves apparently was tha cause of our auto changeover breaking, well that’s what the dealer told me ......

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[Riverbankannie]

I cannot access the main valve on my underfloor tank without putting the van up on ramps. i could turn it off on the internal manifold, so I assume that would be sufficient. This is fairly important, since I am shortly to do a return trip on the Eurotunnel, and cannot reasonably use the tank's main shut-off valve. Advice, please.

We’ve been on Eurotunnel with underslung a Gasit. At the time we only had the internal taps to turn of the individual appliances. This seemed to be ok. Normally we are just asked if gas is off and if we say “yes” that’s is sufficient. Once I had forgotten to turn off, which I said, so we were pulled to one side and I turned off the taps and the lady checked by making me light (or rather not light) the gas hob. Although as the 12v turned off at the time no spark anyway

 

[Allanm]

I cannot access the main valve on my underfloor tank without putting the van up on ramps. i could turn it off on the internal manifold, so I assume that would be sufficient. This is fairly important, since I am shortly to do a return trip on the Eurotunnel, and cannot reasonably use the tank's main shut-off valve. Advice, please.

Turn it off at the manifold. Our Autosleeper had an underslung tank and getting to the tap was a pain. Never had a Eurotunnel worker want to look at the main tap ( I told them were it was a couple of times but they didn’t want to check) so I only ever turned it off at the manifold under the bed. They were quite happy with that when I showed them the taps were off.

 

[Dorwyn]

We’ve been on Eurotunnel with underslung a Gasit. At the time we only had the internal taps to turn of the individual appliances. This seemed to be ok. Normally we are just asked if gas is off and if we say “yes” that’s is sufficient. Once I had forgotten to turn off, which I said, so we were pulled to one side and I turned off the taps and the lady checked by making me light (or rather not light) the gas hob. Although as the 12v turned off at the time no spark anyway

On our last trip back before we had the tank fitted, I had a French Le Qube in the locker. It only just fitted in, and you simply could not see the on/off valve. So when the lovely young lady asked see whether it's on or off, I said you simply can't see it (no double entendre there ... I wish). She insisted. So we went around the back, I pointed it out to her, she ducked as if to look, and said OK. No way could she have seen anything. Someone said that they are observed from a central video point, and just need to show that they have actually looked. Safety check?

 

[andy63]

Just adding my personal experience, filling our Gaslow system without turning off the valves apparently was tha cause of our auto changeover breaking, well that’s what the dealer told me ......

ive had an auto change over fail on an exchange cylinder system ... I think it was the sudden opening of the cylinder valve that broke it.. ie the very sudden movement of the internal linkage..
I did actually repair it in the end and found out that changeover side of the regulator with the coloured segments isn't connected to the gas side of the regulator so opening it up and having a look and repairing it didn't compromise the regulator..
Andy

 

[Wildbill]

I have never turned off except for ferry's and had no problems
bill

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[mitzimad]

We leave the fridge on gas for ferry

 

[Dorwyn]

We leave the fridge on gas for ferry

I did this by mistake on the Santander ferry in Feb, also left the heating on low (10deg), for a 28 hour trip. I didn't realize till I got back to the van. No one noticed, didn't get a call on the ship's tannoy.

 

[Dorwyn]

Turn it off at the manifold. Our Autosleeper had an underslung tank and getting to the tap was a pain. Never had a Eurotunnel worker want to look at the main tap ( I told them were it was a couple of times but they didn’t want to check) so I only ever turned it off at the manifold under the bed. They were quite happy with that when I showed them the taps were off.

Thanks for your reply. That's exactly what happened on our return, just showed the lovely girl the underbed locker, she was quite happy. Funny the things that worry you. I'd have had to put the van on ramps to get underneath to turn it off, and there must be loads of vans with the same issue. I shouldn't have worried. I did even wonder how she knew which position was off, because on mine, the taps are mounted vertically, so the tap off position looks to me more like they are on.

 

[PhilandMena]

Never turned off.

 

[mitzimad]

a refilable bottle is the same as an underslung tank in every way except shape has anyone ever crawled under the van to turn that off when filling?

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[peterc10]

I doubt folk with lpg powered cars turn their tank off either

That's different. LPG cars do not have regulators to reduce pressure. The whole system is at high pressure.

 

[Wildbill]

I looked at my gas low bottles today brused off the cob webs that's mantanance done for another year
Bill

 

[Reallyretired]

I turn mine off before filling if I remember, so probably most of the time Not convinced it's necessary though

 

[Lofty1]

I cannot access the main valve on my underfloor tank without putting the van up on ramps. i could turn it off on the internal manifold, so I assume that would be sufficient. This is fairly important, since I am shortly to do a return trip on the Eurotunnel, and cannot reasonably use the tank's main shut-off valve. Advice, please.

You MUST turn the gas off at the tank to use the tunnel, they don,t always look but the risk of an explosion in the tunnel well !! That is why lpg cars are not allowed. can you get an electronic shut off or some sort of extension made to do it , I have to lie on my back to reach ours and the people who check it seem ok to do this to.

 

[Lenny HB]

I turn mine off before filling if I remember, so probably most of the time Not convinced it's necessary though

Not necessary but with Duo regulators at 200 quid a pop is it worth the risk.

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[Jo662]

I always turn my gas off before filling. Takes a few seconds,so why take the risk.

 

[Pausim]

I was just reading that the filling pumps can reach pressures of just over 200psi, which is getting close to the regulator limit. If I understood the article properly this pressure is not normally needed but the pressure of the lpg in the cylinder increases considerably with higher temperatures and the pump has to be capable of overcoming this. In hotter climates like southern Italy the gas being dispensed will have a higher butane content which reduces the pressure. However, if a vehicle was last filled with pure propane in northern europe and the next fill up is in a hot climate the pump has to be capable of delivering at a much higher pressure.

 

[Dorwyn]

You MUST turn the gas off at the tank to use the tunnel, they don,t always look but the risk of an explosion in the tunnel well !! That is why lpg cars are not allowed. can you get an electronic shut off or some sort of extension made to do it , I have to lie on my back to reach ours and the people who check it seem ok to do this to.

They did look at the closed internal taps and raised no issues.

 

[eddie]

I don't turn off my LPG gas when I am driving. If I do, my V10 Ford stops

 

[peterc10]

I don't turn off my LPG gas when I am driving. If I do, my V10 Ford stops

But then Eddie your Ford is not allowed in the tunnel.

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[glenn2926]

I cannot access the main valve on my underfloor tank without putting the van up on ramps. i could turn it off on the internal manifold, so I assume that would be sufficient. This is fairly important, since I am shortly to do a return trip on the Eurotunnel, and cannot reasonably use the tank's main shut-off valve. Advice, please.

Your system sounds very similar to mine. I close the system by means of a valve in the old cylinder locker. If you don’t have this then turning off at the manifold should be fine for the tunnel.

 

[eddie]

But then Eddie your Ford is not allowed in the tunnel.

Of course it is, I just don't tell them!

 

[MitchandJenny]

MUCH more important to turn off the fridge to remove the danger of it" firing up" on gas and igniting the LPG you are filling.
Saw a van in a workshop in Spain with the side blown off when this happened. ! ! ! !
Jenny passes me the correct adapter for that county and turns the fridge off while I am sorting the LPG pump and hose etc.
Mitch.

 

[peterc10]

Of course it is, I just don't tell them!

tut tut ......... you naughty boy.

 

[eddie]

Actually I don't use the tunnel as I find the drive home from Plymouth (about an hour) so much more acceptable after a holiday than getting into Folkestone.

I have wondered though what would happen if I simply turned the LPG off at the tank and drove on, on Petrol

Given some of the comments above about "just turning off at the manifold" is OK instead of shutting the gas off it seems that the Tunnel don't seem to check anymore as they used to.

Turning the gas off at the manifold isn't OK by the way just in case anyone cares, awkward or not, if the gas is meant to be turned off, it should be turned off at the tank or the bottle.

Imagine the gas build up, in a tunnel, under the English Channel! Doesn't bear thinking about!

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