Gas bottle in Spain

The adaptors with the red top are being phased out, the new ones look like this
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Just bought this from a ferreteria … it says para (for) butano on the box (I’ve got propane) but the fella said it’s good for propane too. Is he correct?



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That regulator is stamped at 30mb outlet pressure. The previous picture you posted of the propane regulator you usually attach to your U.K. bottles is 37mb. If your appliances are rated for use at 37mb you may find a reduction in performance that may be noticeable (or not!).
 
That regulator is stamped at 30mb outlet pressure. The previous picture you posted of the propane regulator you usually attach to your U.K. bottles is 37mb. If your appliances are rated for use at 37mb you may find a reduction in performance that may be noticeable (or not!).
Okay thanks 🙏.. mind you, the image was just from google so I’ll have a look at the one on the van to see what that one says
 
Just bought this from a ferreteria … it says para (for) butano on the box (I’ve got propane) but the fella said it’s good for propane too. Is he correct?



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I use this type on my Gas BBQ and home water heater..my MH has Gaslow...

The standard pressure of Butane/Propane is 30mBar....the 28mBar and 37mBar was replaced with this standard in Europe possibly in 2002 ...if by chance it is different in the UK still. I am not aware of Gas regs there as I am a EU resident...
 
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I use this type on my Gas BBQ and home water heater..my MH has Gaslow...

The standard pressure of Butane/Propane is 30mBar....the 28mBar and 37mBar was replaced with this standard in Europe possibly in 2002 ...if by chance it is different in the UK still. I am not aware of Gas regs there as I am a EU resident...

Domestic and standalone LPG leisure appliances on propane in the U.K. are 37mb, although I believe U.K. produced mohos should be to the 30mb standard now to match continental standards. If the OP has a U.K. 37mb propane bottle regulator as pictured, rather than a bulkhead mounted one, it could be that it’s an older installation, which is why I queried it.

Will it make much of a difference? Maybe only waiting longer for the kettle to boil for the morning cuppa!

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Domestic and standalone LPG leisure appliances on propane in the U.K. are 37mb, although I believe U.K. produced mohos should be to the 30mb standard now to match continental standards. If the OP has a U.K. 37mb propane bottle regulator as pictured, rather than a bulkhead mounted one, it could be that it’s an older installation, which is why I queried it.

Will it make much of a difference? Maybe only waiting longer for the kettle to boil for the morning cuppa!
Exactly how I understand it to be, here in the EU we have, as I said standardised our outlet pressure and appliances to an operating pressure of 30mBar...
The difference between 30/37/28 mBar is fairly insignificant
What the OP has asked for, regarding the type of Regulator is down to two types...Free or Regulated...as you said fairly old installation if he has 37mbar Propane regulator...but is this still the way propane is connected..?
All I needed to see was how his hose was connected to his UK Regulator...to determine what he could have off the shelf in España...
If my memory serves me well...I had a propane free connector in the UK and this fitted my pigtails and was regulated at the bulkhead..at 30mBar...previous Spanish van, I could connect a Calor propane which I had at a relatives house...if I needed to visit the UK for an extended stay...
 
I use this type on my Gas BBQ and home water heater..my MH has Gaslow...

The standard pressure of Butane/Propane is 30mBar....the 28mBar and 37mBar was replaced with this standard in Europe possibly in 2002 ...if by chance it is different in the UK still. I am not aware of Gas regs there as I am a EU resident...
Just taken the original red regulator off which is 37mbar… I’ve attached the Spanish (30mbar) to the hose and attached it to the Repsol bottle but although it appears the fridge is working, I can only get the smallest of the 3 burners on the hob to light🙄
 
Just taken the original red regulator off which is 37mbar… I’ve attached the Spanish (30mbar) to the hose and attached it to the Repsol bottle but although it appears the fridge is working, I can only get the smallest of the 3 burners on the hob to light🙄
Is there some kind of safety feature built into the regulator that restricts flow in the event of a fractured pipe?
Did you by any chance put the regulator on the Repsol and operate the valve to test it?
Is the regulator fully fitted onto the cylinder valve top.
 
Is there some kind of safety feature built into the regulator that restricts flow in the event of a fractured pipe?
Did you by any chance put the regulator on the Repsol and operate the valve to test it?
Is the regulator fully fitted onto the cylinder valve top.
Don’t know about safety features. Just tested the boiler and it tried to fire up but turns off. It was a tight fit but I’ve got the regulator on the bottle fully. I’ll check in the morning to see if gas flows freely from the regulator without the hose on. Fridge is still working and hob is working with one burner although there is gas coming from the other two they won’t ignite with the spark
 
Update… Because the fridge (on gas) was working, but the boiler wasn’t, I wondered if the boiler would fire up with the fridge on battery and it did. Then with the boiler on, I switched the fridge to gas and it fired up while the boiler continued to operate. After that, I turned them both off, turned the fridge back on (on gas) and it worked and then the boiler on and that worked too. So both are working fine. I can now also get 2 of the 3 hob burners to light which will do me as we generally use an induction hob in any event. So that will do me 👍.. Thanks everyone for your input and help .. appreciated🙏

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Update… Because the fridge (on gas) was working, but the boiler wasn’t, I wondered if the boiler would fire up with the fridge on battery and it did. Then with the boiler on, I switched the fridge to gas and it fired up while the boiler continued to operate. After that, I turned them both off, turned the fridge back on (on gas) and it worked and then the boiler on and that worked too. So both are working fine. I can now also get 2 of the 3 hob burners to light which will do me as we generally use an induction hob in any event. So that will do me 👍.. Thanks everyone for your input and help .. appreciated🙏
Perhaps air in the system, would be my first thoughts...🤔🇪🇦
 
If you can't get a sensible priced bottle at a cepsa garage then look on campsite notice boards, rastro places w
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hich are like second hand shops or car boot type sales. Another source is local Facebook selling groups.
As mentioned you can't use a Spanish regulator and go through the bulkhead regulator that's already fitted in the van, that will reduce the pressure down to much
The jumbo adapter is what's needed BUT seems very rare to find in Spain for some reason.
You could use a Spanish regulator and feed in via the external BBQ socket if you have the fittings.
You have to use a "straight through" gas distributor on the bottle if you already have a regulator fitted to the distribution system.

Both Repsol and Cepsa have these. I was given them free when buying the bottle.

The Repsol gas distributor is a simple twist the red knob for on and off.

The Cepsa black knob is a graduated turn from zero to fully open.

The Repsol gas distributor thread fits most gas pig tails bought at hardware stores without the need for brass make-up fittings as in the Cepsa image.

I found last year that the Repsol and Cepsa gas distributors also fit Scandinavian gas bottles and Portugal bottles, except Rubis bottles in Portugal.

I used to carry one Repsol bottle and one Cepsa so if I ran out of Cepsa gas I had time to find a Cepsa distribution station, while using the Repsol gas bottle and vice versa.

I now use a Safe Bank Autogas bottle and carry a Repsol exchange bottle to get the best of both worlds.

Note, I put long gas leads on both bottles for convenience so I don't have to try and fit the gas distributor cramped inside the storage locker.



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You have to use a "straight through" gas distributor on the bottle if you already have a regulator fitted to the distribution system.

Both Repsol and Cepsa have these. I was given them free when buying the bottle.

The Repsol gas distributor is a simple twist the red knob for on and off.

The Cepsa black knob is a graduated turn from zero to fully open.

The Repsol gas distributor thread fits most gas pig tails bought at hardware stores without the need for brass make-up fittings as in the Cepsa image.

I found last year that the Repsol and Cepsa gas distributors also fit Scandinavian gas bottles and Portugal bottles, except Rubis bottles in Portugal.

I used to carry one Repsol bottle and one Cepsa so if I ran out of Cepsa gas I had time to find a Cepsa distribution station, while using the Repsol gas bottle and vice versa.

I now use a Safe Bank Autogas bottle and carry a Repsol exchange bottle to get the best of both worlds.

Note, I put long gas leads on both bottles for convenience so I don't have to try and fit the gas distributor cramped inside the storage locker.



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Thanks. Thats good to know.. (y)
I have one that i bought in the UK years ago but whenever we were in Spain and telling people what to get it always seemed that no one stocked them. Chinese shops, feranteria and the likes of Leroy Merlin only had the standard regulators.
 

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