Gas bbq inside Awning??

[Prop]

Hi when you google if you can have a gas bbq in a awning/tent the answer is NO.

Why is that the case when we happily use our gas burners in the van?

Thanks

Paul

 

[David and Sally]

Good question. Experts are lining up to advise.

 

[Pausim]

Carbon monoxide is the usual reason for not using a bbq in an awning but I am not sure about gas ones.

 

[pappajohn]

If the BBQ is set up properly to minimise emmision I can't see a problem.

 

[David and Sally]

Our Moho manual says open a window when using the cooker. There cannot be much more ventilation than in an awning.

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[Barriesimpson]

As David and Sally have said, the experts will be on any minute now to tell you that using the gas BBQ inside the awning will surely kill you.

 

[meanders]

I don't know, but suspect a typical gas BBQ will be burning much more gas than a 2 ring hob, or even a little oven. The other risk inside an awning is fire. Areas around hobs are designed to be fire retardant. Awnings are likely to go up quickly unless very wet.

 

[Brains]

The main reason for not cooking inside a tent is fire.
If you have ever seen just how fast a tent burns, you would ensure that no one ever cooked inside a tent anywhere near you.

As an FYI a tent the size of a motorhome/caravan awning tent would disappear in under a minute.
A hike tent can go in 20 seconds.
It's spectacular, and very dangerous as there is no time to get out.

The known issue of charcoal BBQ's is never use them inside any confined space.
There are several tragic stories of people doing just that
including one where the parents had the BBQ under the porch cover of their frame tent, so technically 'outside'.
A child asleep inside the tent never work up.

I see no problem with using a Gas Cadac or similar under a wind out awning without sides.

 

[David and Sally]

There we go. Sense at last.

 

[Pausim]

This looks like the case Brains referred to.

Bucknell tent death: Hannah Thomas-Jones died from carbon monoxide poisoning

A teenage girl died of carbon monoxide poisoning at a campsite after a used barbecue was left inside the porch of her tent, an inquest finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

Another sad case attributed to a cooking stove.

Tragedy as boy, 12, dies with grandfather in shock camping trip poisoning

Kaicy Rakai Zelden Brown and his grandfather David Brown died as they slept side by side in suspected carbon monoxide poisoning

www.standard.co.uk

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[Brains]

This looks like the case Brains referred to.

Bucknell tent death: Hannah Thomas-Jones died from carbon monoxide poisoning

A teenage girl died of carbon monoxide poisoning at a campsite after a used barbecue was left inside the porch of her tent, an inquest finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

Another sad case attributed to a cooking stove.

Tragedy as boy, 12, dies with grandfather in shock camping trip poisoning

Kaicy Rakai Zelden Brown and his grandfather David Brown died as they slept side by side in suspected carbon monoxide poisoning

www.standard.co.uk

Unfortunately a brief google through just UK newspaper stories would bring up a dozen more very similar stories over the last decade.

When the recent story of the Grandfather/Grandson was initially reported, I said to my wife that I'll bet it's Carbon Monoxide poisoning.

Bottom line, as every Scout knows:
NEVER COOK IN A TENT.

 

[MisterB]

George Foreman grill assisted by a large lithium and inverter works well inside an awning in my opinion ...

 

[Lenny HB]

Only an idiot with a death wish would use any type of BBQ in an awning.

 

[Cush]

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[DavidG58]

I think the definition of an awning are far to varied to give a definitive opinion

Wind out with no sides compared to a drive away which can be fully enclosed

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[Chris]

Only an idiot with a death wish would use any type of BBQ in an awning.

I used to do it all the time with a gas bbq.

I wouldn’t do it with charcoal of course, but surely ventilation is the key?

 

[Lenny HB]

I used to do it all the time with a gas bbq.

I wouldn’t do it with charcoal of course, but surely ventilation is the key?

Not worth the risk.
What's the point of using a BBQ if you need to do it in an awning.

 

[Chris]

Not worth the risk.
What's the point of using a BBQ if you need to do it in an awning.

Because it’s raining?

 

[Guigsy]

I'd use a gas stove in a tent if it was pee'ing it down, but it'd be in the porch with the door still mostly open and with an idea of how I'd get out if something went wrong. And only if it's got a nice clean flame.

I guess the issue with even gas barbeques is they aren't burning as clean as a stove, so there'll be significantly more carbon monoxide. I'd use a gas BBQ in an awning if the whole side was open and I wasn't charring anything...

 

[Jabstatt]

Two points from me, please.

Firstly, I had a friend who burnt her tent down whilst cooking under the awning. The speed and volume of the fire was such that her and the BIL were airlifted to hospital with burns. The vision panels also emitted gas as they burned, or rather flashed, which affected her lungs for some many months.

Secondly, just look at your cooker flame. Nice blue colour. Complete combustion, no CO, only CO2 being produced.
Look at the BBQ burner. If there is any yellow, this is spare carbon glowing which means incomplete combustion, hence the risk of CO being emitted.
Look at the concentration needed for death.

Why even go there???

Tony.

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[Guigsy]

Why even go there???

There are some circumstances I'd use a stove in a tent. When I was bike-packing all day, I'd unpacked my coffin sized tent. It was pee'ing it down and I really needed a hot meal. I use a little jet stove where the pot locks on to the burner, so even if it falls over, there's no exposed flame. Carbon monoxide is still a consideration, but they also burn hot and fast. The biggest risk is me knocking it over on the uneven ground and getting boiling dehydrated rice curry on me.