Frightening pvc crash test.

[gus-lopez]

I think it might be worth repositioning our fire extinguisher that is attached to the side of the top wall cupboard in the sliding door opening directly behind passenger head.
Salutary video.

Min are clipped to the wall at floor level in the back & to the side of footwell by drivers door.

 

[Lenny HB]

I think I will have to rethink where we keep our glasses ........ the are well wrapped with foam and teatowels but even so.

I noticed that, our wine glasses and tall beer glasses are in the draw immediately below the hob & some more glasses in the next draw down. Have to see about relocating them but it could only be to the next draw down. Nothing heavy in any of our roof lockers, All cooking pots & bottles of olive oil etc., in bottom draws.

 

[monzer]

They left their electric hook up plugged in. Probably a major contribution to the crash.

 

[Riverbankannie]

Min are clipped to the wall at floor level in the back & to the side of footwell by drivers door.

I cannot actually think where to move it to. Floor level at back no good as the legs to extend the bed need to be able to slide out. Floor level at front, it would impede the opening of a cupboard or worktop extension or something. In our MGs we have them under our legs attached to floor in front of seat frame (seats do not move) but in Ducato there is the drop down cover for the tools. Driver’s seat right back up against electric cupboard behind and no gaps. Thinking cap on!

 

[Rob Hammond]

Waste of a good camper

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[2x2camper]

Perhaps they should have had a crash test dog in there too.

 

[Odd-no-more]

Perhaps they should have had a crash test dog in there too.

We always clip our dog to a seatbelt, but due to the harness not being designed for a crash, I'm not sure how safe it would be. Better than nothing and would stop her being thrown out

 

[CazPaul]

Basically, crashes are not safe, regardless of what vehicle you are travelling in.

Seen some terrible results of cars and panel van crashes over the years, crumpled mass of metal.

 

[tonyidle]

What this vid tells me is that the front seat backs move around too much on impact, not giving driver or passenger support, don’t have glassses in draws, use plastic and keep only lightweight stuff in the wall cupboards ( which I do anyway).
no dummies appeared to have any major leg trauma which is good but the airbags appeared to be a couple of inches too far away from heads so that necks flexed too much. Tells me they had the seats set too far back, it would concern me if the seat positions were normal.
Otherwise this gives me hope that we would come out of a smash in relatively one piece.

I thought the van came out of that with flying colours. No frontal intrusion and the heavy stuff in the back didn't intrude either. Short of fully moulded and integrated furniture I can't see any way to seriously improve fixtures and fittings. It looked not only survivable but survivable without life-changing injuries.

 

[Swifter]

This shows a class A and a Class C in a crash test

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[thebriars]

Right, that’s me swapping my Hymer for my Range Rover then (not).
Bigger things to worry about tbf

I wonder what you consider more important in your life than either losing your life or being severely injured?

 

[tonyidle]

I wonder what you consider more important in your life than either losing your life or being severely injured?

Enjoying it?

 

[thebriars]

I thought the van came out of that with flying colours. No frontal intrusion and the heavy stuff in the back didn't intrude either. Short of fully moulded and integrated furniture I can't see any way to seriously improve fixtures and fittings. It looked not only survivable but survivable without life-changing injuries.

I think I'd take ADAC's view on that rather than yours.

From Langtoftlad's translation:
Even so, the risk of injury is very high: the driver of the motorhome is particularly at risk in the head, chest area, legs and feet, as is the car occupant. The evaluation of the dummy data suggests serious injuries. In the worst case, life-threatening injuries or irreparable damage can occur. The risk for the motorhome co-driver is significantly lower. Mainly because the passenger compartment hardly deforms on its side.

 

[thebriars]

Enjoying it?

Can't enjoy it when you are either dead or seriously injured.

 

[Otter Spotter]

I think I'd take ADAC's view on that rather than yours.

From Langtoftlad's translation:
Even so, the risk of injury is very high: the driver of the motorhome is particularly at risk in the head, chest area, legs and feet, as is the car occupant. The evaluation of the dummy data suggests serious injuries. In the worst case, life-threatening injuries or irreparable damage can occur. The risk for the motorhome co-driver is significantly lower. Mainly because the passenger compartment hardly deforms on its side.

So what’s the answer? Airbags in the overhead shelf and side bags all round, don’t think that will happen.

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[Landy Andy]

So what’s the answer? Airbags in the overhead shelf and side bags all round, don’t think that will happen.

Ride a motorbike

 

[Speve]

So what’s the answer? Airbags in the overhead shelf and side bags all round, don’t think that will happen.

Drive a Challenger tank?

 

[CazPaul]

Can't enjoy it when you are either dead or seriously injured.

Does that mean you are selling your van and car then?

 

[EuroTrotters]

I wonder what you consider more important in your life than either losing your life or being severely injured?

What I meant is,

probably more likely to die in many other ways.

not rubbishing anything posted.

you just would never walk out the door if you worried about things too much .

 

[thebriars]

Does that mean you are selling your van and car then?

Car: One of the safest on the road according to NCAP.
Van: No not selling

Why should I, its about being aware of the risks and managing them. We don't load the motorhome with anything we don't need. We don't put heavy things in the overhead lockers, etc. Neither do I wave at every passing motorhome, I'd rather drive safely.

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[Langtoftlad]

Airbags in the overhead shelf and side bags all round, don’t think that will happen.

It might - in time - my little Hyundai, a bargain basement car has about 10 of the things - all depends on customer pressure.

 

[Just smiffy]

Many years ago I just stayed in bed all day as it was too risky getting up.... that was until the chimney got struck by lightning and fell though the roof and nearly killed me in bed..... unfortunately the budgie didn’t make it...

 

[Minxy]

I cannot actually think where to move it to. Floor level at back no good as the legs to extend the bed need to be able to slide out. Floor level at front, it would impede the opening of a cupboard or worktop extension or something. In our MGs we have them under our legs attached to floor in front of seat frame (seats do not move) but in Ducato there is the drop down cover for the tools. Driver’s seat right back up against electric cupboard behind and no gaps. Thinking cap on!

In our PVCs I always attached the fire extinguisher near to the sliding door either to the bottom of the kitchen unit or at the bottom of the B pillar behind the driver's seat along with the fire blanket (below) or passenger seat depending on which side the sliding door was on. Instead of the usual mount for them I use an old bicycle bottle holder as this means that the extinguisher is much easier to pull out if needed in a hurry.

 

[phillipsheila]

In our PVCs I always attached the fire extinguisher near to the sliding door either to the bottom of the kitchen unit or at the bottom of the B pillar behind the driver's seat along with the fire blanket (below) or passenger seat depending on which side the sliding door was on. Instead of the usual mount for them I use an old bicycle bottle holder as this means that the extinguisher is much easier to pull out if needed in a hurry.

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whats the thing by the fire blanket is it from the film krull

 

[Minxy]

whats the thing by the fire blanket is it from the film krull
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no, it's Lily's 'fetch' toy for when she goes swimming.

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[Otter Spotter]

I wonder what you consider more important in your life than either losing your life or being severely injured?

For many years range rovers safety quality was poor due to them being built to agricultural standards. If you saw a RR rolled all the pillars would collapse and the roof woukd crush the occupants, no form of roll cage.
the first RR had timber frames !

 

[Markman]

We all know that Motorhomes fall apart in a crash it's a risk we are prepared to take or we wouldn't be driving them.
That test is very extreme in real life at least one of the drivers would have been pushing the brake peddle through the floor lessening the impact speed considerably.

I disagree that the test was extreme. Both drivers WERE pushing their brakes peddles through the floor. That's why they manage to reduce their normal speeds from about 60mph (scenario: "a risky overtaking manoeuvre on the country road") down to 30mph when they collided.