French Tolls in a Tag axle

[John and Jo]

Go to the web site autoroutes.fr and put in your details.

For example.

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[John and Jo]

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[jongood]

They charge tolls instead of road tax

They re actually doing both these days which is why its almost the same price as UK.

 

[Badknee]

Who has done the route down to the alps from Calais in a TAG axle van?

Looking for advice on costs using or avoiding etc from people who have done this in a tag axle.

We have a sanef tag thingy and always used that in past even thou we we're touch over 3.5t but I think we would be pushing it this time. I looks like we are now class 4 which if my research is anything to go by will be very expensive.

P.S. we are 5.2t, 8.6m but might just scrape in under 3m in height.

Cheers.

We use “Tonka’s none toll route” down the west side of France, it can be found in the resources section. You do in actual fact use three or four tolls but short sections that save you going through towns/cities etc and are well worth using.
We are a 5.25t 9mtr tag but and I think this is the clincher we’re a low line and are 2.9mtrs high incl sat dish and solar and on every toll booth are class two.

 

[olley]

The only check at Peages are the height - if you have a Tag and are 3m or less you will be charged at Classe 2.
If you find when you get back to the UK that they've charged more then give them a ring or email and sort it out then.
Make life simple when on holiday.

If that was the case tag's would be class 3 same as me, so there must be some way they know you are a double axle.

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[jongood]

If that was the case tag's would be class 3 same as me, so there must be some way they know you are a double axle.

I think its probably height that triggers classe 3 for you. The manned booths are getting to be less and less common so I think they ve taken a commercial view that its cheaper to let the odd vehicle through at a cheaper rate than to pay someone to manage it.

I do however wonder whether they are adopting ANPR on the newer booths and using the data supplied by those that apply for the Crit'air. Which will mean bigger bills for a lot of us who currently get away with classe 2.

 

[Emmit]

I suppose you all know that if you use Viamichelin and enter 'Luxury' for the type of vehicle and include a 'Caravan' as well, you will get a pretty good indication of fuel consumption but also Toll prices at Class 2.

 

[ramsthom]

We are slightly over 3 metres at 3.03m and under 3500kg. Have only been charged class 2. Could be due to running the front tyre pressures at 60 psi lowering the height slightly.

 

[spitfire]

They re actually doing both these days which is why its almost the same price as UK.

There is no road tax in France . Toll roads exist only where there is an alternative no toll road . So you have a choice as do the French . The tolls are not charged to only U.K. drivers !
We have lived here for 15 years and our van is tandem but under 3m so always class 2

 

[Solwaybuggier]

The only check at Peages are the height - if you have a Tag and are 3m or less you will be charged at Classe 2.

I thought I read on another thread somewhere that they are now starting to introduce weight sensors at some peages? No idea if this is right or not, but it could make a difference for those of us over 3.5t.

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[jongood]

There is no road tax in France . Toll roads exist only where there is an alternative no toll road . So you have a choice as do the French . The tolls are not charged to only U.K. drivers !
We have lived here for 15 years and our van is tandem but under 3m so always class 2

Sorry my post was not clear, I was referring to fuel tax which (as i'm sure you know) has increased substantially under Macron

 

[Steve and Kat]

Another Tag axle here.. 3.1 metres high, we are 9 metres long.. Class 2. Bonne Journee' !!!!!

 

[Clive and Kerri]

Burstner 821i always get class 2 on the autoboth because of the hight, bare 3.0m

 

[RandallC]

We found after 1 trip around Leman to avoid all toll roads or pay up and look pleasant....

Just set the sat nav to avoid toll roads, relax, enjoy the trip & countryside....

Ok not as quick but a lot less stress and often less fuel.. and can find a surprising places to stop for a cuppa/,lunch.

 

[John and Jo]

From Calais down to Ardenne, on to Annecy, into Itay and round towards Grenoble. Now in Col du Lauteret stopover for two nights, 880 miles and not paid a bean in tolls. You do have to put up with a diversion or two though but if your not in a hurry, much nicer scenic route.

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[TM59]

Choice. Nothing is free.

 

[John and Jo]

Choice. Nothing is free.

ok aristotle

 

[bigtwin]

Choice. Nothing is free.

Indeed and, according to some, most of it is a rip-off!

Ian

 

[PeteH]

Portsmouth - Santander. Avoid the French altogether?. And get some "kip" and a "bevy" as a bonus.

 

[John and Jo]

Portsmouth - Santander. Avoid the French altogether?. And get some "kip" and a "bevy" as a bonus.

i am French...

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[PeteH]

i am French...

Well Done.. Seriously I "did" the Winter run thorough France for years. Until we found that the "total Cost" was only marginally Greater taking the Boat to Santander. I have battled Gales, Snow, (even followed a snow plough) Put up with the French habit of re-numbering roads from one year to the next (Before Sat Navs where thought of!). Overnighted in some strange places when Aires a campsites (supposedly open) where closed. Including the car park of a local Cemetery.

 

[7735]

We used tolls the first year we travelled. Haven't been on one since !

The one and only time we used a toll toad I took my nearside mirror off in a tollbooth by hitting and overhanging sign. Fortunately after spending 2 hours I managed to do a reasonable repair.

Spongy

 

[trophychap]

We sometimes use tolls and sometimes don't whichever happens to suit our current journey/time constraint/route BUT what has always been a hassle with a Ducato cab is reaching the ticket slot/payment point, even though Sedge has very long arms for her build/height - she HAS to get out of her door to reach it and hence always needs to use the 'car' one at the bottom of the machine - far too low for the door windows, would be a stretch even if the window hadn't been fitted! LOL

This takes time and me having the wangle the moho into a place on the short approach to the booth where she can open the door wide enough to get out - I can see that being a bit of a prob for passengers who are much wider than she is.

After doing quite a lot of miles on peages in June - we applied for an e-Movis tag (what used to be Sanef) on Monday and received the transponder do-dah within 24 hours after ordering it via the Cvan/Moho club, thus saving ourselves €10 in the process.

We'll have to use it on our next trip to make sure it works!!

 

[Puddleduck]

Just back from Switzerland we went through Belgium, Luxembourg then south through France to basil used the non toll motorways through Belgium and the n roads in France paid no tolls at all.

We did the same going to and coming back from Italy last year. We used the toll roads in Italy but only one toll tunnel in France as it was such a long way round (and looked too steep for comfort going over).

Unless in a hurry / lack of time I don't want to travel on motorways when in France as I want to see and visit France!

 

[Puddleduck]

I'm not sure if it is the same in France but in Italy there are various types of toll booths at the start of the charging section.

On fixed fee sections you have to put your credit card in and press the big red button as you enter the charge section. It then records the sale, spits out the card, opens the gate and you are on your way.

On charge by distance sections as you go through the first booth press the big red button but don't put your credit card in the slot as you won't get it back. The slot is for some sort of pass but I haven't found out how or what - think they may be for motorway workers.

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[Hettie's Crew]

I thought the general advice was to never register with the sanef thing because they ask for all such things as weight, axles, length and height then your likely to be put in the 3 or 4 class. If you just pay each time at the auto tolls your likely to be charged class 2 if under 3 metres.

 

[teddybear]

We're not asked for weight when we got our tag from sanef

 

[trophychap]

We weren't either - can't recall exactly what though. Nothing 'invasive' anyway.

 

[peterc10]

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I thought the general advice was to never register with the sanef thing because they ask for all such things as weight, axles, length and height then your likely to be put in the 3 or 4 class. If you just pay each time at the auto tolls your likely to be charged class 2 if under 3 metres.

Not correct. They do not ask you for any information about your vehicle. It can be used in any vehicle. What you get charged will depend upon the height sensor at the toll station.

We have a Sanef tag bought through Eurotunnel and have no problems. Always charged class 2 as we are less than 3m high.

 

[2657]

Never had a Sanef tag but it is only for class 1 & 2 vehicles, how does it differentiate between the two, do you not have to state at the time of purchase.

Incidentally tag axle motorhomes are officially Class 4, presuming they are either over 3.5t GVW or 3m high.

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