France 2021

Perhaps it's just me but even if they do crack on at that rate why would they fully open pubs before the huge numbers recently vaccinated had a chance to develop immunity? What is it with the papers its almost like they are desperate for things to go wrong.
 
Perhaps it's just me but even if they do crack on at that rate why would they fully open pubs before the huge numbers recently vaccinated had a chance to develop immunity? What is it with the papers its almost like they are desperate for things to go wrong.
Seeing as Easter Monday is 5th April using your three week for immunity to develop why wait until 17th may before opening up pubs? Three weeks is 26th April.
To turn you question around. What is it with some people wanting to delay longer than required?
 
Seeing as Easter Monday is 5th April using your three week for immunity to develop why wait until 17th may before opening up pubs? Three weeks is 26th April.
To turn you question around. What is it with some people wanting to delay longer than required?
Vaccination was supposed to be receiving both jabs not just the first which is a good start but not vaccinated until received both.
 
Vaccination was supposed to be receiving both jabs not just the first which is a good start but not vaccinated until received both.
Isn’t the first jab supposed to give over 90% immunity after three weeks? Which is far, far better immunity than any other vaccine has ever been.
I realise some are very wary of any relaxation of restrictions but we do need to move on. The ones more wary won’t be forced to come out of their houses. They can lock themselves down forever if they wish but I for one want to get back to living instead of just existing.

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Astra Zeneca gives 76% after one dose and 82.4% after two doses

 
Seeing as Easter Monday is 5th April using your three week for immunity to develop why wait until 17th may before opening up pubs? Three weeks is 26th April.
To turn you question around. What is it with some people wanting to delay longer than required?
Maybe having seen cases increase again after opening up before. When you keep saying we can do what we like as long as vaccination works do you mean after both doses as licensed or just one. I think gradual opening up has been chosen by the government for a few reasons the main one being whilst delaying the next opening up would be politically difficult actually going back again and closing a previous relaxation would be very dammaging. As we saw with the Christmas change that would delay action until there are already people in hospital some of them bound to die. I actually think it would have been better to state the data required for relaxation and for recomposition of measures maybe we would have opened sooner who knows we never saw the figures.
 
Maybe having seen cases increase again after opening up before. When you keep saying we can do what we like as long as vaccination works do you mean after both doses as licensed or just one. I think gradual opening up has been chosen by the government for a few reasons the main one being whilst delaying the next opening up would be politically difficult actually going back again and closing a previous relaxation would be very dammaging. As we saw with the Christmas change that would delay action until there are already people in hospital some of them bound to die. I actually think it would have been better to state the data required for relaxation and for recomposition of measures maybe we would have opened sooner who knows we never saw the figures.
I don’t know about opening earlier but I do think using the data as opposed to setting dates would be a better idea. Who knows when this would have led to relaxing the restrictions? However it is going to prove very difficult to keep to the set dates if figures continue to fall to low levels. The government did say they would be led by the data then promptly set dates. To me that’s not being data led.
 
Astra Zeneca gives 76% after one dose and 82.4% after two doses

This bit


Given the poor efficacy at preventing asymptomatic infections, the vaccine will not stop transmission of covid but will still go a long way to reduce the R value


Suggests we do still need to be a bit careful what souvenirs are bought back from potential holidays in covid hotspots.
I don’t know about opening earlier but I do think using the data as opposed to setting dates would be a better idea. Who knows when this would have led to relaxing the restrictions? However it is going to prove very difficult to keep to the set dates if figures continue to fall to low levels. The government did say they would be led by the data then promptly set dates. To me that’s not being data led.
I totally agree especially as you said set dates which they have said they aren't!!
 

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