First timer in france needing some advice from the pro's!

[Ziggy123]

Not sure if this is right place to ask this question...but we are currently 2 weeks in to our first trip to France and I'm really struggling. The advice was to go with the flow and don't plan.. but how do you do that when the majority of sites are closed or closing?

What apps/sites do you find most useful..I use ACSI
.. mainly stayed mainly at their sites as seem good value at around 20 euro all in...park4night, camper contact and camper car park (been pretty useless where we have been!) None give you filters to only show open sites so that takes a while to filter! I did pick up a link to French aires during last night's research so that might help fingers crossed.

We've had a few issues that haven't helped. First in calais when we stopped for wine supplies and two men tried to break in to the van...hubby chased them down the road with the dog!..so that's made us nervous of leaving van without being on a site.
Rwg sim been a pain and trying to find a supermarket that sells a French one..no luck yet but in a town today so going to have a walk in and see...but its started to work again yesterday & I have enough data to work for now and no time to watch TV anyway! Gas leak..but anyway its all just things but the main stress is places to stay.

Currently in Chambery near grenoble, we detoured here via Annecy to see if could get part for gas but couldn't. Had intended to do the drive through the alps but the driving is stressing the dog (especially as we've been avoiding tolls!) so we need to make some decisions. Find another spot in Alps good for hiking...head south coast and hopefully more sites open?..any tips on this and good places for walking?..,or just head home instead. I don't really want to as feel I've failed and want to turn it round.

Is this just a bad time of year for France or am I doing it all wrong? We just love being in nature and walking. We have our large Golden retriever with us, he is happy being in van now, just hates the driving days!

So far the highlight of trip was when we detoured in to Switzerland for 5 nights, loved walking in the Mountains! Should have gone to chamonix yesterday as originally planned rather than try to get gas part but you learn. We have 1 working cylinder so that's sufficient!

Love being in the van though and was so excited for this trip. I am usually a planner so I knew it would be an adjustment for me its been harder than I thought, probably just because so much is shut...well hopefully anyway!

Sorry long post any help would be appreciated but be kind I'm feeling very emotional lol!

Thanks Lisa

 

[Ziggy123]

St Remy is beautiful but busy even in October. We went on a Monday when everything was closed. There are good bike tracks and Glanum (cyclable) is really interesting Roman archaeological site. A lot of people like Les Baux nearby which has son et lumières art shows - Google it.

We have left our travel-stressed big dog at home. He pants and drools and is in misery when we travel. Nala on the other hand loves it!

Yes as much as we have loved having him with us & he is loves van life when we are stopped, I'm not sure we would bring him again on such a long distance trip anyway.
Thank you for the tips I will do some research. So it sounds like you are slightly ahead of us on the road!

 

[Ziggy123]

If you have bikes you can cycle on a voie verte to the coast one way and come back another

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No we don't unfortunately because we have our dog with us but we are happy for long walks so I will check it out thank you

 

[Ziggy123]

We travel with our black lab with no issues by putting him in his crate on the floor behind the front seats, with the table slid across so it is over the crate. (Adria Matrix so I guess you have a similar layout to us)? This way he is restrained in his crate should we have an “incident” and also he feels safe in his “den”. The downside is we lose the ability to just walk through into the hab area from the front and spin the seats without folding it away. Its also a bit of a faff to set up and put away. But he just curls and and sleeps through the journeys, only venturing out when we stop as if to say, “are we there yet”?
(It’s a Trixie Vario mobile kennel, made from fabric on an aluminum frame and just fits exactly behind the driver/passenger seats at the side of the battery box seat. Its useful for him to use outside too).

Oh how I wish ours would lay down like that..
We have a big table leg there in ours that doesn't move...might see if can change later as its a bit of a pain!
We were in a car accident a couple of year back and were overturned, so that's why he is nervous travelling. We had to put in a lot of time and patience to even get him back in a car again and he has come on so far now...he shook so badly the first outing in van...he's on edge for noise so I have to pack well!...now he doesn't shake but a sit is best can hope for, he gets very tired. He did lay down on one stint for few minutes and then we went over a bump! Never to be repeated!

 

[Ziggy123]

Gorges du Verdon is spectacular and in your direction of travel. Image attached with potential stopover.

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Thats brilliant thank you this was on my go to list, I hope its still open now!
Edit
Says mid October, we are here until 15th..so I've emailed them to ask...fingers crossed!

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[Ava the Adria]

Oh how I wish ours would lay down like that..
We have a big table leg there in ours that doesn't move...might see if can change later as its a bit of a pain!
We were in a car accident a couple of year back and were overturned, so that's why he is nervous travelling. We had to put in a lot of time and patience to even get him back in a car again and he has come on so far now...he shook so badly the first outing in van...he's on edge for noise so I have to pack well!...now he doesn't shake but a sit is best can hope for, he gets very tired. He did lay down on one stint for few minutes and then we went over a bump! Never to be repeated!

Well done you, so far so good. Rebuilding confidence is a slow process.
We’re moving on on Monday, I’ll post some pictures of how we pack him in at the side of that table leg! Others have removed the table in the Matrix and replaced it with smaller folding versions, but we like it and it suits us as it is.

 

[Ava the Adria]

Oh how I wish ours would lay down like that..
We have a big table leg there in ours that doesn't move...might see if can change later as its a bit of a pain!
We were in a car accident a couple of year back and were overturned, so that's why he is nervous travelling. We had to put in a lot of time and patience to even get him back in a car again and he has come on so far now...he shook so badly the first outing in van...he's on edge for noise so I have to pack well!...now he doesn't shake but a sit is best can hope for, he gets very tired. He did lay down on one stint for few minutes and then we went over a bump! Never to be repeated!

The pics I promised of how we fit Max’s crate so he’s secure under the table for travelling.

 

[Ziggy123]

The pics I promised of how we fit Max’s crate so he’s secure under the table for travelling.

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Oh that looks a really good fit! He has to lay down then, Freddie has never made it to lay down stage but then he doesn't in car either to be fair but we have an suv so he goes in boot & leans against back of rear seats for balance which I think helps. Hubby is thinking of ways we can confine space more to give him leaning area. He was between us and that helped but I think two hot & sunny drives put him off that area. Honestly retrievers are so sensitive lol!

Thanks for showing me pics. Good you crate trained him too, that works out great for you now. Don't know what Freddie would think of it as never been in one but it gives us some ideas thank you.

We are heading to cassis tommorow, arriving on South Coast, so as far as we will be away from home...then slow road back but its shorter than the route we took here and will allow at least a week so we limit the driving time for him!

 

[Ava the Adria]

Oh that looks a really good fit! He has to lay down then, Freddie has never made it to lay down stage but then he doesn't in car either to be fair but we have an suv so he goes in boot & leans against back of rear seats for balance which I think helps.

Max views travel in the car or the MoHo as time for sleeping - he just curls up and goes to In the car he only puts his head up if it looks like we’re arriving somewhere and in the van he might venture out for a drink, but rarely does so until after we’ve stopped. It’s his safe space as he was crate trained from the start.
We’ve thought about introducing a harness so he can sit on the bench, but although we lose the ability to access the hab area with the crate in place, overall it just works for us.

 

[Paul and Chris]

We lived in La Creuse until recently so this is "on the ground" info.

All communes are supposed to provide somewhere to stay overnight. In the more rural areas especially you can park in car parks and stadia overnight.

If you're really stuck ask at the Mairie or even a bar or maybe look for other motorhomes.

Park4night saved our skin recently. With a clapped out starter on 13th July we couldn't restart the engine once stopped. Found an aire in Pacy-Sur-Eure on P4N FREE parking, FREE electricity, FREE water, FREE black and grey disposal in the centre of town. Phoned about 40 mobile mechanics from Le Boncoin on 14th July And got one to drive 30 KM with a new starter the next day !

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[ashley 1340]

Not sure if this is right place to ask this question...but we are currently 2 weeks in to our first trip to France and I'm really struggling. The advice was to go with the flow and don't plan.. but how do you do that when the majority of sites are closed or closing?

What apps/sites do you find most useful..I use ACSI
.. mainly stayed mainly at their sites as seem good value at around 20 euro all in...park4night, camper contact and camper car park (been pretty useless where we have been!) None give you filters to only show open sites so that takes a while to filter! I did pick up a link to French aires during last night's research so that might help fingers crossed.

We've had a few issues that haven't helped. First in calais when we stopped for wine supplies and two men tried to break in to the van...hubby chased them down the road with the dog!..so that's made us nervous of leaving van without being on a site.
Rwg sim been a pain and trying to find a supermarket that sells a French one..no luck yet but in a town today so going to have a walk in and see...but its started to work again yesterday & I have enough data to work for now and no time to watch TV anyway! Gas leak..but anyway its all just things but the main stress is places to stay.

Currently in Chambery near grenoble, we detoured here via Annecy to see if could get part for gas but couldn't. Had intended to do the drive through the alps but the driving is stressing the dog (especially as we've been avoiding tolls!) so we need to make some decisions. Find another spot in Alps good for hiking...head south coast and hopefully more sites open?..any tips on this and good places for walking?..,or just head home instead. I don't really want to as feel I've failed and want to turn it round.

Is this just a bad time of year for France or am I doing it all wrong? We just love being in nature and walking. We have our large Golden retriever with us, he is happy being in van now, just hates the driving days!

So far the highlight of trip was when we detoured in to Switzerland for 5 nights, loved walking in the Mountains! Should have gone to chamonix yesterday as originally planned rather than try to get gas part but you learn. We have 1 working cylinder so that's sufficient!

Love being in the van though and was so excited for this trip. I am usually a planner so I knew it would be an adjustment for me its been harder than I thought, probably just because so much is shut...well hopefully anyway!

Sorry long post any help would be appreciated but be kind I'm feeling very emotional lol!

Thanks Lisa

At this time of the year there are lots of MH's on the road mainly with coffin dodgers who like the cooler weather and no crowds. Most towns and small villages have some provision for MH's and are usually badly signposted. I'm a long time resident near Carcassonne , maybe you should head further south .

 

[ronboyracer]

Not sure if this is right place to ask this question...but we are currently 2 weeks in to our first trip to France and I'm really struggling. The advice was to go with the flow and don't plan.. but how do you do that when the majority of sites are closed or closing?

What apps/sites do you find most useful..I use ACSI
.. mainly stayed mainly at their sites as seem good value at around 20 euro all in...park4night, camper contact and camper car park (been pretty useless where we have been!) None give you filters to only show open sites so that takes a while to filter! I did pick up a link to French aires during last night's research so that might help fingers crossed.

We've had a few issues that haven't helped. First in calais when we stopped for wine supplies and two men tried to break in to the van...hubby chased them down the road with the dog!..so that's made us nervous of leaving van without being on a site.
Rwg sim been a pain and trying to find a supermarket that sells a French one..no luck yet but in a town today so going to have a walk in and see...but its started to work again yesterday & I have enough data to work for now and no time to watch TV anyway! Gas leak..but anyway its all just things but the main stress is places to stay.

Currently in Chambery near grenoble, we detoured here via Annecy to see if could get part for gas but couldn't. Had intended to do the drive through the alps but the driving is stressing the dog (especially as we've been avoiding tolls!) so we need to make some decisions. Find another spot in Alps good for hiking...head south coast and hopefully more sites open?..any tips on this and good places for walking?..,or just head home instead. I don't really want to as feel I've failed and want to turn it round.

Is this just a bad time of year for France or am I doing it all wrong? We just love being in nature and walking. We have our large Golden retriever with us, he is happy being in van now, just hates the driving days!

So far the highlight of trip was when we detoured in to Switzerland for 5 nights, loved walking in the Mountains! Should have gone to chamonix yesterday as originally planned rather than try to get gas part but you learn. We have 1 working cylinder so that's sufficient!

Love being in the van though and was so excited for this trip. I am usually a planner so I knew it would be an adjustment for me its been harder than I thought, probably just because so much is shut...well hopefully anyway!

Sorry long post any help would be appreciated but be kind I'm feeling very emotional lol!

Thanks Lisa

I really sympathise with you guys, my first trip abroad, september 2007, Calais was ok then, subsequent years not so, always overnighted on the Aire on the beach, watching the ferries coming in, I must admit I had prepared for this trip, thru France Aires sorted, if I needed sites they were still open, no tolls used, even from Bordaeux to Biarritz, an aire at Biarritz milady, which was handy for everything, amazing, then, right through the top of northern Spain, followed the coast down to Portugal, the algarve, into Spain, Cadiz, Costa del sol, Murcia,Costa Blanca,Costa Brava, through France again back home for Christmas 5000miles, texting to you now, brought back so many Happy memories, sometimes, half the fun is planning the trip, things still happen but planning and knowledge of the basic trip help, l never did that mileage again, but what a trip, set me up for the years to come .All the best Ronboyracer

 

[dawsey]

Not sure if this is right place to ask this question...but we are currently 2 weeks in to our first trip to France and I'm really struggling. The advice was to go with the flow and don't plan.. but how do you do that when the majority of sites are closed or closing?

What apps/sites do you find most useful..I use ACSI
.. mainly stayed mainly at their sites as seem good value at around 20 euro all in...park4night, camper contact and camper car park (been pretty useless where we have been!) None give you filters to only show open sites so that takes a while to filter! I did pick up a link to French aires during last night's research so that might help fingers crossed.

We've had a few issues that haven't helped. First in calais when we stopped for wine supplies and two men tried to break in to the van...hubby chased them down the road with the dog!..so that's made us nervous of leaving van without being on a site.
Rwg sim been a pain and trying to find a supermarket that sells a French one..no luck yet but in a town today so going to have a walk in and see...but its started to work again yesterday & I have enough data to work for now and no time to watch TV anyway! Gas leak..but anyway its all just things but the main stress is places to stay.

Currently in Chambery near grenoble, we detoured here via Annecy to see if could get part for gas but couldn't. Had intended to do the drive through the alps but the driving is stressing the dog (especially as we've been avoiding tolls!) so we need to make some decisions. Find another spot in Alps good for hiking...head south coast and hopefully more sites open?..any tips on this and good places for walking?..,or just head home instead. I don't really want to as feel I've failed and want to turn it round.

Is this just a bad time of year for France or am I doing it all wrong? We just love being in nature and walking. We have our large Golden retriever with us, he is happy being in van now, just hates the driving days!

So far the highlight of trip was when we detoured in to Switzerland for 5 nights, loved walking in the Mountains! Should have gone to chamonix yesterday as originally planned rather than try to get gas part but you learn. We have 1 working cylinder so that's sufficient!

Love being in the van though and was so excited for this trip. I am usually a planner so I knew it would be an adjustment for me its been harder than I thought, probably just because so much is shut...well hopefully anyway!

Sorry long post any help would be appreciated but be kind I'm feeling very emotional lol!

Thanks Lisa

Wow loads of issues. France is probably the easiest place in Europe to motorhome. If you are struggling now, bad news, it gets much harder from late November when the aire taps start being disconnected.

Stay away from towns to avoid crime, use village aires. Free for the SIM. Buy a cheap internal security cam and connect it to a cheap mobile left in the van to be able to check on the parked van anytime with another phone. Leave nothing of value in the van, put it in a backpack. Leave curtains and cupboards open for thieves to see that.

Usually there will be at least one other camper on the aires. This is the best form of security, but most don’t stick around as they are usually travelling to or from southern europe at this time of year. Introduce yourself and if leaving the van ask them if they mind keeping an eye.

Alternatives to water from aires when the taps are off:

1. public toilets. make sure you have adaptors that can connect to a tap and a supply of tie wraps to hold the tap on.
2. Graveyards. Often a tap for water for flowers.
3. The Mayors offices/public buildings like sports grounds and community centres or village halls (salle polyvalent or salle de fete) , where there will often be a tap or a public loo inside or close by.
4. A local farm. Offer to buy a dozen eggs or cheese or anything else they may sell, (often nothing) then ask if you can fill from a hose. They often use their own wells for private water supply so won’t be bothered.

If you can’t find an aire it’s fine to stay in a supermarket car park, no one will bother. Again avoid larger towns.

 

[Anjistar]

I haven't got time to read through all the posts, but has anyone mentioned the Campy app?
We've just got back from a round trip of nearly 6 weeks and towards the end camp sites were getting a bit thin on the ground. The Campy app showed quite a few small sites that Search4sites didn't have and has many filters including Open Now.

 

[B-well]

Well done despite all the issues troubles and disappointments you are still talking to us. Good news is that most of us have had some issues within our travels at some stage but hey when you look back it will all seem understandable. Others in the world are not so lucky. Good luck in your future adventures.

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[Mike Rivers]

I know many people make it up as they go along. We prefer to plan our stops. As you say most everywhere closed this time of year but if you’re anywhere near Beaune then try Camping Les Cent Vignes. Lovely site, excellent restaurant, walkable to the pretty town centre and open until November. Good luck. BTW, I used an Orange Holiday SIM with great success, didn’t like Holafly but look seriously at Lenny’s suggestion of buying a SIM in E.Leclerc. As he says, France really is the go to destination for motorhomers with so much diversity and then you have the Atlantic coast with the lovely islands. Hope your holiday ends well and you come back for more next year. It is a learning curve which we’ve all been on so don’t stress!!

 

[Joethejoiner]

I know many people make it up as they go along. We prefer to plan our stops. As you say most everywhere closed this time of year but if you’re anywhere near Beaune then try Camping Les Cent Vignes. Lovely site, excellent restaurant, walkable to the pretty town centre and open until November. Good luck. BTW, I used an Orange Holiday SIM with great success, didn’t like Holafly but look seriously at Lenny’s suggestion of buying a SIM in E.Leclerc. As he says, France really is the go to destination for motorhomers with so much diversity and then you have the Atlantic coast with the lovely islands. Hope your holiday ends well and you come back for more next year. It is a learning curve which we’ve all been on so don’t stress!!

Loads of advice there mostly good but we are all different.
Centre of Calais is not a problem but don't think OP will be returning!
Motorway services , away from big cities , are also safe and often handy when doing a long drive .
In other words don't rule anything out
On a personal note I think the camping car parks company are a cancer to us travellers.
The sites are good but they , apparently, get the local authority to ban motorhome parking where they operate

 

[Ziggy123]

I haven't got time to read through all the posts, but has anyone mentioned the Campy app?
We've just got back from a round trip of nearly 6 weeks and towards the end camp sites were getting a bit thin on the ground. The Campy app showed quite a few small sites that Search4sites didn't have and has many filters including Open Now.

no thank you for that I will check it out

 

[Ziggy123]

I know many people make it up as they go along. We prefer to plan our stops. As you say most everywhere closed this time of year but if you’re anywhere near Beaune then try Camping Les Cent Vignes. Lovely site, excellent restaurant, walkable to the pretty town centre and open until November. Good luck. BTW, I used an Orange Holiday SIM with great success, didn’t like Holafly but look seriously at Lenny’s suggestion of buying a SIM in E.Leclerc. As he says, France really is the go to destination for motorhomers with so much diversity and then you have the Atlantic coast with the lovely islands. Hope your holiday ends well and you come back for more next year. It is a learning curve which we’ve all been on so don’t stress!!

Thank you! I have at least got my sim working in the router and have caught up with work so one less stress! We have arrived in Cassis now, near Marseille, so have seen the sea again after 3 weeks! We've managed to find more open this way but appreciate its going to get harder again as we slowly make our way home. Its been a big learning curve! We have enjoyed it but it was a lot harder work than I envisaged. I am a planner and a researcher normally and whilst I am happy to change plans and not make definitive ones I have learned you cannot change everything about yourself that fast and whilst I did think I had done a good amount of research before we came, I am going to do a lot more next time and stick to a smaller area..we have driven a 1000 miles so far and have to do at least the same to get back! I know a lot of it is we came late in the year...due to our son getting married in September...so will probably not do that again or at least not here and we brought out dog so we have to find places with good walking nearby. We have also traveled in less touristy places which has been lovely and had some campsites almost to ourselves but being so late in season it hasnt helped for first time. Anyway we continue now after taking a break and will see where we go next!

 

[Ziggy123]

View attachment 824476Well done despite all the issues troubles and disappointments you are still talking to us. Good news is that most of us have had some issues within our travels at some stage but hey when you look back it will all seem understandable. Others in the world are not so lucky. Good luck in your future adventures.

Thank you! At least we are still talking to each other too lol! But it is reassuring to hear that so thank you. We have not bumped in to anyone English for a few weeks either so the 'tips' I was hoping we would get on route did not happen!n Many more English vans here now we have reached the South

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[Ziggy123]

Wow loads of issues. France is probably the easiest place in Europe to motorhome. If you are struggling now, bad news, it gets much harder from late November when the aire taps start being disconnected.

Stay away from towns to avoid crime, use village aires. Free for the SIM. Buy a cheap internal security cam and connect it to a cheap mobile left in the van to be able to check on the parked van anytime with another phone. Leave nothing of value in the van, put it in a backpack. Leave curtains and cupboards open for thieves to see that.

Usually there will be at least one other camper on the aires. This is the best form of security, but most don’t stick around as they are usually travelling to or from southern europe at this time of year. Introduce yourself and if leaving the van ask them if they mind keeping an eye.

Alternatives to water from aires when the taps are off:

1. public toilets. make sure you have adaptors that can connect to a tap and a supply of tie wraps to hold the tap on.
2. Graveyards. Often a tap for water for flowers.
3. The Mayors offices/public buildings like sports grounds and community centres or village halls (salle polyvalent or salle de fete) , where there will often be a tap or a public loo inside or close by.
4. A local farm. Offer to buy a dozen eggs or cheese or anything else they may sell, (often nothing) then ask if you can fill from a hose. They often use their own wells for private water supply so won’t be bothered.

If you can’t find an aire it’s fine to stay in a supermarket car park, no one will bother. Again avoid larger towns.

Thank you for all the tips I appreciate it. We have to be home by end of November anyway for grandparent duties! We will probably stay for another 3 weeks and slowly make our way back up towards Calais. We are trying to avoid large towns as we do not really like them anyway, we have our dog with us so out walking in countyside, small towns is perfect! I should have paid for French passion, I did join up but did not have enough time to allow for the brochure to come before we left.

 

[Ziggy123]

I really sympathise with you guys, my first trip abroad, september 2007, Calais was ok then, subsequent years not so, always overnighted on the Aire on the beach, watching the ferries coming in, I must admit I had prepared for this trip, thru France Aires sorted, if I needed sites they were still open, no tolls used, even from Bordaeux to Biarritz, an aire at Biarritz milady, which was handy for everything, amazing, then, right through the top of northern Spain, followed the coast down to Portugal, the algarve, into Spain, Cadiz, Costa del sol, Murcia,Costa Blanca,Costa Brava, through France again back home for Christmas 5000miles, texting to you now, brought back so many Happy memories, sometimes, half the fun is planning the trip, things still happen but planning and knowledge of the basic trip help, l never did that mileage again, but what a trip, set me up for the years to come .All the best Ronboyracer

That was quite a trip! We are only on 1000 miles so far! We thought we would do a big one this time...but have the dog with us so limited to travel hours a day...and then next time we will focus on an area we liked the most. We also wanted to trial what it would be like travelling with a dog to see what was possible, but am not sure we ill bring him next time. It was always going to be a learning curve so I don't mind as long as we learn something lol! I will need to go home for a rest!

 

[Ziggy123]

We lived in La Creuse until recently so this is "on the ground" info.

All communes are supposed to provide somewhere to stay overnight. In the more rural areas especially you can park in car parks and stadia overnight.

If you're really stuck ask at the Mairie or even a bar or maybe look for other motorhomes.

Park4night saved our skin recently. With a clapped out starter on 13th July we couldn't restart the engine once stopped. Found an aire in Pacy-Sur-Eure on P4N FREE parking, FREE electricity, FREE water, FREE black and grey disposal in the centre of town. Phoned about 40 mobile mechanics from Le Boncoin on 14th July And got one to drive 30 KM with a new starter the next day !

Mobile data - SFR do a great SIM only deal.

Carte Prépayée : la carte SIM sans abonnement - SFR

Carte SIM prépayée sans engagement et sans abonnement pour appeler, envoyer des sms et surfer en toute sérénité. SFR La Carte, rechargeable à tout moment.

www.sfr.fr

I also had a FREE mobile SIM - fantastic coverage and roaming in Europe including UK.

That is really intersting thank you.

 

[Ziggy123]

At this time of the year there are lots of MH's on the road mainly with coffin dodgers who like the cooler weather and no crowds. Most towns and small villages have some provision for MH's and are usually badly signposted. I'm a long time resident near Carcassonne , maybe you should head further south .

We are heading over your way next...well probably a week away! We arrived in Cassis yesterday...very busy compared to where we have been!..but definitely much more open here and am really looking forward to heading to that side next as sounds much more like the area we will like, just hoping we can find places to stay when we do!

 

[David BW]

Welcome back to Dorset Ziggy! It's good that you haven't been put off France completely. We did our first trio there in April/May and enjoyed it so much that we did another one in September - we've driven around 4,000 miles in France this year over five and a half weeks and only spent 4 nights on campsites. Our journey criteria were much the same as yours I think - dog walks, avoiding big towns & crowds, pretty rural roads. Definitely invest in France Passion before you go again, that's where nearly all our stops came from.

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[Ziggy123]

Welcome back to Dorset Ziggy! It's good that you haven't been put off France completely. We did our first trio there in April/May and enjoyed it so much that we did another one in September - we've driven around 4,000 miles in France this year over five and a half weeks and only spent 4 nights on campsites. Our journey criteria were much the same as yours I think - dog walks, avoiding big towns & crowds, pretty rural roads. Definitely invest in France Passion before you go again, that's where nearly all our stops came from.

We are not home quite yet! Currently the other side of marseille found a nice spot that reminded us of home for storm watching! Looks like some good coastal walks here too and the crowds have gone home!
Thank you for that tip, I wished I had done that one, sounds like it would have been nicer than camping car park! Hoping to find some nice ones on way back though, once we choose our route!