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All that Twitters isnt gold, 
and as far as Im aware I wasn't getting any reductions at that time, (never have actually)
do you think he may have his £ confused with the euro ?
But also rememebr these prices are public charger prices, not home charge
and as far as Im aware I wasn't getting any reductions at that time, (never have actually)do you think he may have his £ confused with the euro ?
But also rememebr these prices are public charger prices, not home charge
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All that Twitters isnt gold,
do you think he may have his £ confused with the euro ?
But also rememebr these prices are public charger prices, not home charge
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That's for a Tesla owner on a £10.99 per month subscription I assume, so what about the pay as you go customers who are not Tesla owners?
Plus, was that peak rate or off peak?
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As in my post #34, I think 1kW of solar panel will produce about 5kWh over a whole summer day. That's flat on the roof, you could probably boost that by tilting to catch more sun. And as Tombola says, more like 50p per kWh. But still, if it's every day, it mounts up.Sorry if I seem to be labouring a point, but I'm interested
I was reading elsewhere that most EV charging points charge about £1 per Kwh.
So these 1 Kw panels will save about £1 per hour.
Tenner a day isn't to be sniffed at.
Is my reckoning close?
It's surprising how much brighter the sun is in the middle of the day. Our eyes are extremely good at adjusting to the light level, so we don't notice the reduction until the sun is very low. But the solar panel output varies by a huge amount over the day, more than you might think.
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subscription? dont know what you mean, there is no such thing for Tesla owners, you chargethe car, your account gets charged and paid thats it,we are all PAYG.... it can change daily/hourly, but once you plug in you get the rate it starts at..
As for what non tesla owners pay, dunno. I just answered the question Yorick asked
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I read that Tesla ran "Time of Use" which is £10.99 per month to subscribe to?
So looking at what Tesla Supercharger rates are on the net, then yours was off peak, so the rate I posted of peak rates were about right then.
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Dunno what you are talking about, Ive never heard of it, have you got a resource ? Ive got a feeling you may be talking about the premium monthly subscription which has nothing to do with charging.I read that Tesla ran "Time of Use" which is £10.99 per month to subscribe to?
So looking at what Tesla Supercharger rates are on the net, then yours was off peak, so the rate I posted of peak rates were about right then.
its not about whos right whos wrong, not sure why you want to be proven right, I answered the question for Yorik best I know at the time, you posted some different info than I have never heard of
Also the peak charges didnt yet apply on mine,and I was there in a morning. so erm, no you arent "about" right
what it is now, I dunno, I charge at home as much as poss,
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https://www.electrifying.com/blog/knowledge-hub/tesla-raises-supercharger-prices-to-record-high-as-energy-costs-continue-to-spiral#:~:text=The increase sees most supercharger,increase of 17p per kWh.
and to save you scroll all through the article .............
its not about whos right whos wrong, not sure why you want to be proven right, I answered the question for Yorik best I know at the time, you posted some different info than I have never heard of
Also the peak charges didnt yet apply on mine,and I was there in a morning. so erm, no you arent "about" right
And I thought that you had your finger on the pulse.
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And I still dont know what you are saying. There are no references in the tesla account by Tesla, or in the app, about these things you say.https://www.electrifying.com/blog/knowledge-hub/tesla-raises-supercharger-prices-to-record-high-as-energy-costs-continue-to-spiral#:~:text=The increase sees most supercharger,increase of 17p per kWh.
and to save you scroll all through the article .............
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And I thought that you had your finger on the pulse.
Tesla do not offer a subscription charging discounted service or anything like what you said for Tesla owners, maybe they do something for non Tesla owners as they had a pilot late 2021, but you stated "Tesla Owners"..... not all stations were opened up, but as I already said, pricing for non Tesla dont know dont care TBH.
But if you really need to be right as it seems, and stop your fingers hurting by googling, Ill accept whatever you say.
But to reiterate.....49p per KWH , on 22nd november 10:30 am was the rate here in the UK driving a Tesla at a supercharging station. Cant mak eit any more simple than that.
Tesla owner 10.99 discounted charging subscription. Nah, no chance, I have my finger on the app.
Can never get a charge when you want one LOL
Bet they were gutted that they could only find a spot in the middle at San Sebastian where its in the shade after dinner time.....they need to get along the back wall to get the 1000w panels yielding some rays.
I worry about keeping 2 leisure batteries topped up, couldn't be doing with worrying about anything else
I worry about keeping 2 leisure batteries topped up, couldn't be doing with worrying about anything else
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It's not a case of being right, more a case of you asked for resources as to what I was referring to and although I produce it for you in black and white print you tell me I'm talking b*lloks.
So what are the articles referring to then as they clearly state a subscription, and you appear to be under the impression that I give a toss, how wrong you are.
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Friend of mine made a good (I thought) point about electric cars and charging. Why didn't/don't manufacturers make all battery systems on cars the same. Then petrol stations could store batteries which are charged. When you are running out you pull up at a station, dead battery out, recharged battery in. Bit like exchanging Calor gas bottles.
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Awwww cmon Two on Tour ..I almost give up there....dont get uppity about being erm.....not right lol.It's not a case of being right, more a case of you asked for resources as to what I was referring to and although I produce it for you in black and white print you tell me I'm talking b*lloks.
So what are the articles referring to then as they clearly state a subscription, and you appear to be under the impression that I give a toss, how wrong you are.
You said Tesla owners have a subscription discounted charge system...I said they don't, but you didn't like that. And found something about non Tesla owners...which was a pilot.
I didn't say you were talking bollocks id never dream.of that
but come to think of it..you were though if you look back..scouring 2nd hand info from tinterweb to prove a point that wasn't valid. Cmon cmon...admit it..you seen Tesla membership charge discounts on some crap.site from the dark ages and thought aha haaaa..I've got him..lol.Don't be upset .we are all wrong sometimes..just some folk accept it..
Though I have the feeling you may drop in the last word..I'll.let you have it...go on..I know it means so much too you..
Note to self...(Please.lord let it be "yes i was talking bo**ocks")
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The subscription is for non Tesla owners who want to use a Tesla Supercharger. Not every Supercharger station is open to non Tesla cars. Tesla owners pay direct via their Tesla account. The rates to non-Tesla owners are similar to other rapid charging stations eg Ionity. Most other non-Tesla charging networks have a subscription model which offers a discount to subscribers.It's not a case of being right, more a case of you asked for resources as to what I was referring to and although I produce it for you in black and white print you tell me I'm talking b*lloks.
So what are the articles referring to then as they clearly state a subscription, and you appear to be under the impression that I give a toss, how wrong you are.
Oh, and yes, I own a Tesla.
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The trouble is, the ‘batteries’ are quite big and heavy, and it would take quite a while to change them….
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Because they aren't like AA cells that you open the hatch and change them out. These batteries have liquid coolant systems running through them connected to the rest of the car, as well as power and data cables. New generation electric cars have a skateboard platform where the battery forms the floorpan and chassis rails etc with a subframe at each end to hold the suspension, wheels, motors etc.
We seem to have greatly digressed to electric cars, back to the OP original post.
How much is the mentioned electric Motorhome, is it just available on the continent, are there any UK converters etc etc or any in the pipeline?
How much is the mentioned electric Motorhome, is it just available on the continent, are there any UK converters etc etc or any in the pipeline?
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good point. apols OP
70 odd k, 3.5 to 4.2 tonnes
no main stream converting atm, just private van dwellers
Id imagine once range increases some may jump on board but a few years yet
Nice one, it’s just that we have so many posts about EV cars I thought, ooh an electric Motorhome thread.
I suppose in 30 years all we will be talking about on here is electric motorhomes.
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Thank you for your explanation, I'm just surprised that Tombola was not aware of this or able to explain it.
The article I read had not give this background when quoting subscriptions.
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The nice thing about this young Dutch couple was they were so upbeat and keen to show you around the van and share information.
When you are young there are no issues. When you are old you can be a tad cynical and challenging. They are the future.
When you are young there are no issues. When you are old you can be a tad cynical and challenging. They are the future.
They didn't go into the details, I couldn't see any spec for the drive batteries, so I'd guess they are 50kWh to 100kWh. They have a separate 10kWh leisure battery (906Ah at 12V). This runs an induction hob, 2kW convector heater, and presumably a water heater. The 10kWh battery runs a Multiplus 3000 inverter/charger, so it can charge from a hookup post.
I noticed they have a couple of mains sockets that are powered by the drive batteries. So there's nothing to stop them filling the drive batteries at a nearby EV point, then camping on an aire for a few days, using the drive batteries if necessary to top up the leisure batteries. Then filling up again at the EV point before continuing the journey.
I noticed they have a couple of mains sockets that are powered by the drive batteries. So there's nothing to stop them filling the drive batteries at a nearby EV point, then camping on an aire for a few days, using the drive batteries if necessary to top up the leisure batteries. Then filling up again at the EV point before continuing the journey.
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You can Keep your ducatto, Morello and Concordes, Tesla for me very time, unlimted power, everything electric using the semi batteries...OH yes.
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Is that in production?
Here's another one.
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no mate, just concept based on the semi as of yet
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not sure thats and EV tho Jim, I think they mean it runs total leisure all electric, the grill on the front goves away a radiotor for cooling I assume.Here's another one.
This Sleek RV Could Be Your New Luxury Condo on Wheels
The four- to six-wheeler houses a living room, kitchen and scenic-view bedroom in over 10 customizable layouts of your choice.
Hmm. Like having a diesel van with a three to four gallon tank then.
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Oh OK
thanks, so when you said "you can keep your Morello and Concordes" you meant literally as the electric alternative is only a pipe dream
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Ha ha, Ive just seen you have a Palace..LOL, never noticed before.Oh OK
no mate, I aspire to have a MH like palace maybe but if the leccy version like above comes along, that would be me next aspiration
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