First 100% electric motorhome

[Toady]

In San Sebastian and got chatting to a Dutch couple who stated that theirs was one of the first electric motorhomes off the production line in respect of the engine.

They live full time off grid and everything is electric….,,cooking, heating etc.

They have 1000watts solar on the roof.

 

[Two on Tour]

I can't see any way that a 1000watts solar on the roof will provide anything meaningful for running the traction motor for any distance when you subtract the power requirement to run everything electric on the habitation side of things to remain off-grid without plugging into a charging station on very regular basis.

 

[Lenny HB]

How do you get a 1000 Watts of solar on a PVC roof?
I can only assume no rooflights, vents and anything else just solar panels.

 

[Toady]

I can't see any way that a 1000watts solar on the roof will provide anything meaningful for running the traction motor for any distance when you subtract the power requirement to run everything electric on the habitation side of things to remain off-grid without plugging into a charging station on very regular basis.

I think they regularly use chargers but they are able, due to the huge amount of leisure batteries , to charge the vehicle batteries when required. Love the technology. He has a Victron 3000/12 Multiplus on board.

The cost of all the batteries is through the roof. Never mind the weight.

 

[pappajohn]

But many EVs run on 600vac.....how do they manage that from 12v batteries

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[pappajohn]

How do you get a 1000 Watts of solar on a PVC roof?
I can only assume no rooflights, vents and anything else just solar panels.

Looks to me like three large panels.

 

[pappajohn]

I can't see any way that a 1000watts solar on the roof will provide anything meaningful for running the traction motor

I have a feeling 100% electric means the hab electrics....no gas..... and it has a conventional IC motor.

 

[VXman]

But many EVs run on 600vac.....how do they manage that from 12v batteries

I assume the drive batteries are completely separate from the leisure side. Or the 12 volt side is transformed down from the drive battery?

 

[Toady]

He told me it had to returned to Fiat recently as the batteries on the vehicle side were faulty. 60000 Euros to replace. Covered by warranty.
I will steer clear for now.

 

[Toady]

I assume the drive batteries are completely separate from the leisure side. Or the 12 volt side is transformed down from the drive battery?

Yes, the leisure and drive batteries are in separate systems.

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[AndyPK]

60,000 Euros……?!?

 

[dna]

i'd say off grid vanners currently call at fuel stations to fill up with diesel so fair enough if these folks have to use mains chargers for the drive system. IF they can emergency transfer power from the habitation batteries to the drive system, how much range could they get? Cant be very far but maybe enough to get to a charger

 

[Nirvanauk]

Will he have to queue like all the Teslas over Christmas for 5 hours to get a charge. No thank you.

 

[Toady]

i'd say off grid vanners currently call at fuel stations to fill up with diesel so fair enough if these folks have to use mains chargers for the drive system. IF they can emergency transfer power from the habitation batteries to the drive system, how much range could they get? Cant be very far but maybe enough to get to a charger

He said he gets enough to get to the nearest charger.

Imagine where we will be in 10 years time!

 

[AndyPK]

Still queuing for the charger…….?

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[Two on Tour]

I would imagine that they have little choice but to head South for the winter sun at this time of the year.

 

[VXman]

More info here although on first quick look I struggled to find any detail on the electric set up but looks like a standard motorhome set up albeit lots more batteries and solar than average but I guess that's essential as they are not using gas. Cooking via induction hob and presumably electric hot water and heating. That'll use some power!!!

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[Two on Tour]

Off-grid but re-charging at campsites ................ not total my definition of off-grid.

 

[tonyidle]

My take on BEV motorhomes: all motorhomes are built on base intended for or derived from a commercial vehicle. I don't believe this will change so the practicality (or otherwise) of a BEV motorhome will be entirely determined by the range deemed acceptable by commercial users of the chosen base vehicle. IMO that may not be the range required for the way motorhomes are used at present.

 

[VXman]

Ah -found this which summarises their electric. Pleasant surprise to find these short info clips rather than the overly long rambling videos many you tubers make!

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[Captain Yoghurtpot]

Think the closeness of parking on that site leaves a lot to be desired

 

[VXman]

Off-grid but re-charging at campsites ................ not total my definition of off-grid.

Recharging the drive batteries? Well, it's no different to going and filling up with diesel (just slower). By that logic if you use diesel for your engine you are not truly off gird either!

 

[VXman]

Think the closeness of parking on that site leaves a lot to be desired

Fairly typical of off grid 'camper parks' in Germany, Spain, Italy. Not a camp site but then the fees reflect that.

 

[Two on Tour]

Recharging the drive batteries? Well, it's no different to going and filling up with diesel (just slower). By that logic if you use diesel for your engine you are not truly off gird either!

And you for that matter.

 

[Captain Yoghurtpot]

Fairly typical of off grid 'camper parks' in Germany, Spain, Italy. Not a camp site but then the fees reflect that.

Not for me then
Just does not look safe for the use of gas appliances in such a close proximity .
Give me my 6mtr space every time, even with the occasional “ Colonel Blimp” site warden.

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[Two on Tour]

Surely having to use public charging points for the most part has got to cost more than diesel per mile?

 

[Tombola]

Comes in 2 versions, 47kw ev battery and 79kw. That will take lower charges via AC or fast charge via DC. say 155 miles range (empty) so will be less wonce the have aded all the MH weight.

What baffles me is why have weight and cost another 96ah of leisure batteries with UP TO.....1885kg payload..... when you could surley have the ability of running from the vehicles ? Gromett

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[PaulyP]

He told me it had to returned to Fiat recently as the batteries on the vehicle side were faulty. 60000 Euros to replace. Covered by warranty.
I will steer clear for now.

How much to replace a Diesel engine? Maybe 10,000 !

I know which one I’d stick with.

 

[Yorick]

One for the clever folk.
Assuming 1Kw of solar for 10 hours a day. Does that put 10 Kws into the batteries?

In other words, how many miles are achievable from 10 hours sun?

 

[Tombola]

One for the clever folk.
Assuming 1Kw of solar for 10 hours a day. Does that put 10 Kws into the batteries?

In other words, how many miles are achievable from 10 hours sun?

none, the solar is just for the 12v electrics, that amount wouldnt even make a scratch in the drive batts.
they ae planning on just 75-100 miles per day and recharge either as camp sites or public chargers

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