Fiat engine Identification?

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

Anyone know how to identify the bhp of these engines.

Mine is a 2017 2.3 150 bhp euro 6 non ad-blu. Following a recent service (I'm now on holiday) I had to check the oil level which seemed on the low side of the tolerance. Must admit I never usually look at the engine.

Now the Hymer handbook shows pictures of the different engines and the picture that corresponds with mine says it's a 115. ???????

Is the book wrong? am I reading it wrong? or is the engine only 115 bhp and not 150?

DDJC · Jul 27, 2023

Folkranger said:
Anyone know how to identify the bhp of these engines.

Mine is a 2017 2.3 150 bhp euro 6 non ad-blu. Following a recent service (I'm now on holiday) I had to check the oil level which seemed on the low side of the tolerance. Must admit I never usually look at the engine.

Now the Hymer handbook shows pictures of the different engines and the picture that corresponds with mine says it's a 115. ???????

Is the book wrong? am I reading it wrong? or is the engine only 115 bhp and not 150?

Post 2014, Fiat multijet 2.3 litre diesel engines come in 130, 150 and 180 bhp
There is a 115 hp engine, but that is only 2.0 litre. Not really big enough to push your Hymer around. Think your handbook may be wrong.

There are others, but most Ducato bases are 2.3 litre.

Badknee · Jul 27, 2023

Folkranger said:
Mine is a 2017 2.3 150 bhp euro 6 non ad-blu.

Sorry I don’t understand. Do you not believe the badging?

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

DDJC said:
Post 2014, Fiat multijet 2.3 litre diesel engines come in 130, 150 and 180 bhp
There is a 115 hp engine, but that is only 2.0 litre.

There are others, but most Ducato bases are 2.3 litre.

Thanks. I believe they changed in 2017 but don't know how much. Its still curious why the handbook show pictures of engines where the only one like mine says 115

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

Badknee said:
Sorry I don’t understand. Do you not believe the badging?

Not sure what you mean by the badging. I bought mine nearly new from a dealer in Newark who isn't Brownhills and it was supposed to be 150bhp. The log book says 2300 but not the bhp. Where is the badging?

scotzsue · Jul 27, 2023

One generic handbook for many models, if the interior isn't too different they wont update the whole book

Lenny HB · Jul 27, 2023

It's 115kw which is 154 bhp.

eurajohn · Jul 27, 2023

If you look on the VIN plate you will see the engine code, for the 150BHP one it is F1AE3481E which is 107KW

Lenny HB · Jul 27, 2023

eurajohn said:
If you look on the VIN plate you will see the engine code, for the 150BHP one it is F1AE3481E which is 107KW

rules out my theory then.

Lenny HB · Jul 27, 2023

eurajohn said:
If you look on the VIN plate you will see the engine code, for the 150BHP one it is F1AE3481E which is 107KW

I think that is the engine number as it's nothing like the VIN also engine number is impossible to see on an A Class that's why they get registered with the engine number as "unknown"

BouncyBoatFolk · Jul 27, 2023

The log book should give the derivative type .
Mike.

Lenny HB · Jul 27, 2023

BouncyBoatFolk said:
The log book should give the derivative type .
Mike.

Only the cc in mine.

eurajohn · Jul 27, 2023

Sorry you are quite correct, should have said the Fiat identification plate, attached is a pic from a previous van which clearly shows the engine type.

Speve · Jul 27, 2023

If is any help my engine number is 2744432 according to my log book and it’s a 2.3 180bhp

eurajohn · Jul 27, 2023

Lenny HB said:
I think that is the engine number as it's nothing like the VIN also engine number is impossible to see on an A Class that's why they get registered with the engine number as "unknown"

There is a web site which at moment I can't find but so long as you have the VIN number you can get full build details of your base vehicle, attached is a photo of the first page of the one I downloaded for the van I posted the plate picture of.

namwaldog · Jul 27, 2023

If you enter the Vin code at Vindecoderz, it should show the power as other build details...

VIN decoder & lookup - Vindecoderz

Get the complete vehicle history report with owner information, prior accidents and damage.

www.vindecoderz.com

Badknee · Jul 27, 2023

Folkranger said:
Not sure what you mean by the badging. I bought mine nearly new from a dealer in Newark who isn't Brownhills and it was supposed to be 150bhp. The log book says 2300 but not the bhp. Where is the badging?

This badging on the front wing. The conversion is British not the base Ducato.

Speve · Jul 27, 2023

namwaldog said:
If you enter the Vin code at Vindecoderz, it should show the power as other build details...View attachment 787510

VIN decoder & lookup - Vindecoderz

Get the complete vehicle history report with owner information, prior accidents and damage.

www.vindecoderz.com

just used this link and my 2018 ducato come back as a 2012 with no details

Speve · Jul 27, 2023

This web site gives the correct Fiat details with the VIN.

https://aftersales.fiat.com/eLum/Carousel.aspx?error_code=none&brand_code=00&id_language=2&market_code=EN_EU&plate_number=&modelID=&id=lilFA2iRtH3LFH6XUIVEx0mZchiiyvOrqNoSSZUi0w8Xl%20D4Tgsc8H5ObZ3NTKwMpY0Bex%20UkAAL%20z4N89bAJw==

Kenp · Jul 27, 2023

Folkranger said:
Anyone know how to identify the bhp of these engines.

Mine is a 2017 2.3 150 bhp euro 6 non ad-blu. Following a recent service (I'm now on holiday) I had to check the oil level which seemed on the low side of the tolerance. Must admit I never usually look at the engine.

Now the Hymer handbook shows pictures of the different engines and the picture that corresponds with mine says it's a 115. ???????

Is the book wrong? am I reading it wrong? or is the engine only 115 bhp and not 150?

Is it possible that your handbook is quoting KW rather than BHP?

BouncyBoatFolk · Jul 27, 2023

I have this number on my log book, which you invariably need when ordering spare parts, it's the engine type.
F1AGL411D.
Can't see my 130BHP on the log book, perhaps it's so small it's invisible

Mike.

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

Badknee said:
This badging on the front wing. The conversion is British not the base Ducato.

View attachment 787512

A class. No badging.

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

Kenp said:
Is it possible that your handbook is quoting KW rather than BHP?

Don't think so. It doesn’t say. It shows pictures of engines called 115, 130, 150 &180. Sounds like bhp to me.

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

Thanks all. Just checked my vin on line and it is 2.3 DS 150 E6 TL
Power is 107kw, 145CV so that makes it 147bhp.

Still doesn't explain why the manual shows my engine picture as 115CV

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

Lenny HB said:
I think that is the engine number as it's nothing like the VIN also engine number is impossible to see on an A Class that's why they get registered with the engine number as "unknown"

True. The engin plate is well hidden behind the engine.

Folkranger · Jul 27, 2023

Lenny HB said:
It's 115kw which is 154 bhp.

dunnah01 · Jul 27, 2023

My 3.0l Maxi 160bhp shows as 140bhp on the web site. Am I boverred

BouncyBoatFolk · Jul 28, 2023

dunnah01 said:
My 3.0l Maxi 160bhp shows as 140bhp on the web site. Am I boverred

I would be if someone nicked 20 of my ponies,

Mike.

dunnah01 · Jul 28, 2023

BouncyBoatFolk said:
I would be if someone nicked 20 of my ponies,
Mike.

I don't use very many of them when touring so not going to try and lasoo them

dunnah01 · Jul 28, 2023

Most Ducatos produce their max torque on about 60-100hp so anything more isn't much use unless you're in marketing or sales

Fiat engine Identification?

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