Europe with African Grey Parrot?

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i realise posting this topic late on a weekend may open the floodgates of the wierd and wonderful but here goes....

Anyone travelled UK to Europe with caged birds particularly parrots?

I thought I had posted this some time ago but searching the threads I can't see it.

Any advice - apart from don't do it?

Cheers


Neil
 
Norwegian Bue is the best parrot, IMHO :)
 
No travel restrictions on birds that I know of.... After all, there's no official bird airports where they have to land, they come and go as they please in the wild.

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Me too
 
When my late father died, I inherited a very grumpy, African grey as no one else in the family could put up with its constant swearing. Not long after I retired and started to travel more in Europe. The parrot was ancient and no ring on its leg, which had never bothered anyone before. I called the ministry of agriculture, fisheries and food at there Crewe office and explained the situation. They told me as the bird had no ring, I would require export docs from the UK into France, import docs into France, export docs from France to Spain and import docs into Spain. All this in return on my return to the UK. I asked a mate who had a pub at the time if he could look after the thing for a few months whilst I went travelling around Europe and he was delighted. That was 19 years ago and I have never been back to the pub since :rolleyes:.

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Reminds of a Blue Macaw in the Bosun pub in West Street Brighton. It used to hop of its perch onto people's shoulders, if you pulled it's tail it bit their ear.:ROFLMAO:
 
Snowbird said:
When my late father died, I inherited a very grumpy, African grey as no one else in the family could put up with its constant swearing. Not long after I retired and started to travel more in Europe. The parrot was ancient and no ring on its leg, which had never bothered anyone before. I called the ministry of agriculture, fisheries and food at there Crewe office and explained the situation. They told me as the bird had no ring, I would require export docs from the UK into France, import docs into France, export docs from France to Spain and import docs into Spain. All this in return on my return to the UK. I asked a mate who had a pub at the time if he could look after the thing for a few months whilst I went travelling around Europe and he was delighted. That was 19 years ago and I have never been back to the pub since :rolleyes:.
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Ours has shall we say colourful language sometimes although to be fair it is usually used in context. He is ringed so hopefully there should be no issues 'importing and exporting' him. He is 24 years old and we are his 3rd family - I think that probably tells you everything o_O.

We take him all over the country with us and most people think he is great fun but as always there's a minority who take humbrage at the language. Kids normally think it's hilarious though.
 
At Gangelt (Germany) I met a lady who travels with 3 parrots: 2 in a cage in the rear of her van and one on her shoulder!).

She told me that there are numerous groups who meet up to parade their birds: she had 2 different "buggies" - one for fine weather and one for rain.

During the rest of our month in Germany we met 2 other families with parrots in their vans, so it might represent an opportunity to make new friends.

Gordon
 
The Germans seem to be the biggest group travelling with weird pets (not that parrots are weird ) but I've seen many over the years and all have rings as I remember - contact MAF for confirmation would be the first call

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I take my old bird with me on almost every trip (y)(y)

She's quite tame now, unless that lot down in Benidorm give her to much vodka.

shh... YES, I do mean Irene..;)

:rofl::rofl:

On a very serious note.. Sorry cant help with any real answer..
 
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Last time I looked into this on the DEFRA website the EU allows up to 5 cage birds to cross frontiers. Pet passports don't apply to birds.

What rules will apply to taking cage birds in and out of the UK after 29 March 2019 is a big unknown.

We decided not to risk taking ours across the Channel because if there is an outbreak of bird flu emergency action might restrict the movement of cage birds. Including having to put our birds into quarantine or not being allowed to bring them back into the UK or having them confiscated and destroyed. OK it's a remote possibility, but still not worth risking our pet birds.
 
Madcaravanner said:
The Germans seem to be the biggest group travelling with weird pets (not that parrots are weird ) but I've seen many over the years and all have rings as I remember - contact MAF for confirmation would be the first call
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As far as I can see there are no limitations to travelling with caged birds. I was hoping some other Funsters would have been daft enough to try before me and have some pointers to avoid any issues :eek:
 
Have come across several Brits touring with parrots, most recently in July in France. Having researched the rules about taking dogs abroad, birds are mentioned but only to the tune of no restrictions.
 
Bird flu etc restrictions are the only thing that come to mind however another thing to think about is are there any illnesses abroad that we don't have in the UK that could affect your bird?

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There are no diseases in caged pet birds in Europe that are not in the UK
The thing to be careful is CITES papers for endangered birds. African and Timneh Grey birds are now Appendix 1 since last year. So you may need an article 10 certificate when entering the UK
 
jezport said:
article 10 certificate when entering the UK
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Thanks for the info @jezport - I don't think that applies as it is for commercial purposes?

This form should be used to apply for an Article 10 certificate to use an Annex A specimen for commercial purposes.

Specimen means any living or dead plant or animal (or any parts of it) that is listed in the regulations.

Commercial use includes:

  • purchase or sale
  • offering for sale
  • displaying the specimen for commercial purposes
 
Parked next to a Dutch couple with one in France this year, by day 3 I wanted to kill it so for the sake of diplomatic relations we moved on.
 
I once saw an advert on gumtree

Wanted portable camcorder must be in gokd condition will swap African grey parrot for the right machine.


Always stuck in my mind as I thought I bet that poor parrot thought it was it's owners pride and joy and there it was being swapped for a camera

Ah well sorry I'm otherwise no use to this thread :D
 
carolyn said:
Parked next to a Dutch couple with one in France this year, by day 3 I wanted to kill it so for the sake of diplomatic relations we moved on.
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Had similar with a MH with budgies on board ... if they'd been bigger they'd had been plucked BBQd by the following day!

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Bustup15 said:
Thanks for the info @jezport - I don't think that applies as it is for commercial purposes?

This form should be used to apply for an Article 10 certificate to use an Annex A specimen for commercial purposes.

Specimen means any living or dead plant or animal (or any parts of it) that is listed in the regulations.

Commercial use includes:

  • purchase or sale
  • offering for sale
  • displaying the specimen for commercial purposes
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Having the certificate means you can prove that it wasn't caught (stolen) from the wild. Otherwise you have no proof. My Macaw is a hybrid so is not classed as an endangered species.
 
When we were parked up on the Reil site on the Mosel, a Dutch couple turned up with a caged canary which sang it's heart out.

Edit : Just seen the above post, was it the same Dutch couple I wonder ?
 
Bustup15 said:
As far as I can see there are no limitations to travelling with caged birds. I was hoping some other Funsters would have been daft enough to try before me and have some pointers to avoid any issues :eek:
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not sure if @Wendo55 took hers to France for the last couple of years & germany next year? Hopefully she'll pick this up & let you know.
 
Be careful if you're going to the Med. coast. It might start pining for home.:D
 

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