I’m wondering if you hit unlucky with that particular vet? A few people have posted on Facebook about getting a pet passport at that practice with no need for a French address.
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I think maybe. I asked when making the appointment but got no response. I was maybe given that vet- Dr Augustine Ruffle - because he’d spent a few years I England and with the wormer request I was obviously English.
I was surprised he was SO surprised to be asked re a passport
I was surprised he was SO surprised to be asked re a passport
What is the consensus of opinion regarding address on Belgium issued EU pet passport?
Must it be a Belgium address ie our campsite or can we have our UK home address? If we do enter the Campsite address can we change in the future to another EU address or our home U K address.
Thanks in advance.
Tanya, Andy & Pandora
Must it be a Belgium address ie our campsite or can we have our UK home address? If we do enter the Campsite address can we change in the future to another EU address or our home U K address.
Thanks in advance.
Tanya, Andy & Pandora
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they changed them in 2014. before the passport has no plastic encapsulations & the vets had there own, & wht is still used on mine as it is 2009. After 2014 the passports come with encapsulation for the pages. & yes they are mean to be encapsultaed/covered for security to prevent tampering.
Apart from checking the time ,day ,date etc on mine it is the one thing I always make sure is done.
some english info here from gov.es
https://www.mapa.gob.es/en/ganaderia/preguntas-frecuentes/FAQS-TRAVEL-PETS.aspx
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I've only ever used dfds & all is done when I am checking in with the vehicle. They definitely do something ,if not scan enter that a pet/s are being carried as the windscreen tag. Might also be that ,for some reason, they have a maximum amount of animals they can carry per croosing.I only found this out when I contacted them as unable to add the dog to a booking.It took the girl on the phone a while before she found that it was because they had the max amount of animals on particular sailings.
**I have also always done the scanning & in most cases no one has ever seen the dog.
should be able to as there is a " change of address " box on the page/underneath
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We obtained our 2 pet passports last year in Belgium, put our UK address on it and have returned back to the UK twice without any issues.
Still not 100% that some French border control will pick it to pieces and find issues if they have had a bad day but at present all good.
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It will depend on the individual vet that you go to - best to check with them first. Some will only issue a Pet Passport if you are resident, some will accept any local address, some will accept a UK address. Basically they are all making it up as they go along.
You can change the address in the Pet Passport to whatever you like, whenever you like - which makes a nonsense out of any supposed residency requirement.
I must say I did find “my” vets description of the bureaucratic process for registering with I-cad and a new passport and chip versus the procedure for moving to France ( ie with an address) and only one form for that convincing.
if I’d come prepared I think any French address I gave would have achieved a passport
interesting though that others at the practice issue passports - his surprise at my request wax very genuine I think
if I’d come prepared I think any French address I gave would have achieved a passport
interesting though that others at the practice issue passports - his surprise at my request wax very genuine I think
For I-cad registration you would have had to complete a form like the one below and pay a fee of 9.23€ (with a French cheque). I-cad registration is not a legal requirement for dogs unless they will be staying in France for more than 3 months - ie effectively importing them, which is what this form is about. Some (most?) French vets are insisting on I-cad registration before they will issue an EU Pet Passport. There is no logical reason for this so presumably it is a political reaction to Br*x*t. If you have managed to obtain a French Pet Passport without I-cad registration then, if it was me, I would leave well alone. Border Control are not remotely interested in either I-cad registration or the address in your Pet Passport.
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I can understand that. There are a fair few ‘howlers and screamers’ on Facebook AHC groups who delight in posting all kinds of scaremongering nonsense. The only item of any legal relevance is Article 27 of EU Regulation 576/2013. I carry a printed copy of this together with the simplified version from the European Commission website, and am more than willing to take on any official who questions the validity of my dog’s French Pet Passport (no I-cad registration and UK address).
Went to do the same today but the laminate sticker from the uk passport was a lot smaller than the ‘box’ where the entry is on the French passport, it would cover the vaccine sticker ok but thought it would look odd so not done it yet. Am I just over thinking it?? Obviously worried I’m going to bugger up this precious commodity
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This is my latest reply my MP got. I ask him about pet travel on a regular basis 
Bill Esterson MP
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA Bill.esterson.mp@parliament.uk
Dear Bill,
The Rt Hon the Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park
Minister of State
Your ref: BE5065 Our ref: MC2022/11677/MO
16 June 2022
Thank you for your email of 6 June to the Secretary of State on behalf of your constituent about pet travel to the EU. I am replying as the Minister responsible for this policy area.
We applied to the European Commission in February 2020 for the United Kingdom (UK) and Crown Dependencies to be listed as a Part 1 third country for the purposes of the EU Pet Travel Scheme (PTS). We put forward a robust technical case that outlined our biosecurity credentials, demonstrating that we fulfil the criteria to be listed as a Part 1 third country. The decision to list us as a Part 2 listed third country was taken via a vote at the Standing Committee on Plants, Animals, Food and Feed of the EU on 3 December 2020. Defra has been clear that there are no animal health or biosecurity justifications for these additional rules to travel to the EU under Part 2 listing status.
Defra recognises the undue impact that these changes are having on many people, including pet owners and assistance dog users. We are continuing to seek agreement from the European Commission on awarding Great Britain (GB) Part 1 listed status. Achieving this would alleviate the most onerous pet travel rules for all travellers and we see no valid animal health reason for these to not be granted. We have one of the most rigorous pet checking regimes in Europe to protect our biosecurity and have submitted a detailed technical case setting this out. As a Part 1 third country we would be able to issue multiple use ‘GB pet passports’ which pet owners could use to enter the EU, and an Animal Health Certificate would not be required. In addition, Part 1 listing would remove the requirement to enter the EU at a designated Travellers Point of Entry where the pet’s documentation and health vaccinations and treatments are inspected for compliance.
We continue to discuss pet travel issues with the EU at appropriate forums. This also includes discussion of the recognition of GB as free of the tapeworm Echinococcus multilocularis. As a consequence of being a third country in relation to the PTS, the EU no longer recognises GB’s status as a country that is free from the tapeworm. This means that for travel to some countries including Norway, Malta, Finland, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, dogs need to be treated against the tapeworm 24-120 hours before arrival. At the first Specialised Committee on Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures in September 2021 the UK presented evidence of our tapeworm free status.
We are currently planning for further engagement with the EU to progress both of these issues.
DEFRA, Seacole Building, 2 Marsham Street, London, SW1P 4DF www.gov.uk/defra | +44 (0) 3459 335577
www.gov.uk/sustainabledevelopmentgoals
Our advice for pet owners and users of assistance dogs travelling now is that they should contact their vet at least one month in advance. This is to ensure their pet has the correct vaccinations and paperwork to travel abroad.
We have updated our guidance on GOV.UK with detailed information on what pet owners must do to ensure a seamless journey for their pet to the EU or NI. Please see additional information here:
www.gov.uk
If your constituent has any further questions, they can contact the dedicated pet travel helpline on: pettravel@apha.gov.uk or via telephone on 0370 241 1710 Monday to Friday, 8:30am to 5pm (closed on bank holidays).
Thank you once again for your email. With best wishes,
THE RT HON THE LORD GOLDSMITH OF RICHMOND PARK
Bill Esterson MP
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA Bill.esterson.mp@parliament.uk
Dear Bill,
The Rt Hon the Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park
Minister of State
Your ref: BE5065 Our ref: MC2022/11677/MO
16 June 2022
Thank you for your email of 6 June to the Secretary of State on behalf of your constituent about pet travel to the EU. I am replying as the Minister responsible for this policy area.
We applied to the European Commission in February 2020 for the United Kingdom (UK) and Crown Dependencies to be listed as a Part 1 third country for the purposes of the EU Pet Travel Scheme (PTS). We put forward a robust technical case that outlined our biosecurity credentials, demonstrating that we fulfil the criteria to be listed as a Part 1 third country. The decision to list us as a Part 2 listed third country was taken via a vote at the Standing Committee on Plants, Animals, Food and Feed of the EU on 3 December 2020. Defra has been clear that there are no animal health or biosecurity justifications for these additional rules to travel to the EU under Part 2 listing status.
Defra recognises the undue impact that these changes are having on many people, including pet owners and assistance dog users. We are continuing to seek agreement from the European Commission on awarding Great Britain (GB) Part 1 listed status. Achieving this would alleviate the most onerous pet travel rules for all travellers and we see no valid animal health reason for these to not be granted. We have one of the most rigorous pet checking regimes in Europe to protect our biosecurity and have submitted a detailed technical case setting this out. As a Part 1 third country we would be able to issue multiple use ‘GB pet passports’ which pet owners could use to enter the EU, and an Animal Health Certificate would not be required. In addition, Part 1 listing would remove the requirement to enter the EU at a designated Travellers Point of Entry where the pet’s documentation and health vaccinations and treatments are inspected for compliance.
We continue to discuss pet travel issues with the EU at appropriate forums. This also includes discussion of the recognition of GB as free of the tapeworm Echinococcus multilocularis. As a consequence of being a third country in relation to the PTS, the EU no longer recognises GB’s status as a country that is free from the tapeworm. This means that for travel to some countries including Norway, Malta, Finland, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, dogs need to be treated against the tapeworm 24-120 hours before arrival. At the first Specialised Committee on Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures in September 2021 the UK presented evidence of our tapeworm free status.
We are currently planning for further engagement with the EU to progress both of these issues.
DEFRA, Seacole Building, 2 Marsham Street, London, SW1P 4DF www.gov.uk/defra | +44 (0) 3459 335577
www.gov.uk/sustainabledevelopmentgoals
Our advice for pet owners and users of assistance dogs travelling now is that they should contact their vet at least one month in advance. This is to ensure their pet has the correct vaccinations and paperwork to travel abroad.
We have updated our guidance on GOV.UK with detailed information on what pet owners must do to ensure a seamless journey for their pet to the EU or NI. Please see additional information here:
Taking your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad
Take your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad: getting a pet passport or export health certificate, microchip, vaccinations and tapeworm treatments.
Thank you once again for your email. With best wishes,
THE RT HON THE LORD GOLDSMITH OF RICHMOND PARK
As long as it covers the rabies vaccine sticker it will be fine. Mine is the same and it doesn’t look odd.Went to do the same today but the laminate sticker from the uk passport was a lot smaller than the ‘box’ where the entry is on the French passport, it would cover the vaccine sticker ok but thought it would look odd so not done it yet. Am I just over thinking it?? Obviously worried I’m going to bugger up this precious commodity
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The reason that we have not been granted Part 1 listed status is that we refuse to actually commit (ie sign up to) the EU’s animal and plant health requirements. That is what other non-EU countries that are Part 1 listed have done. There is no need to ‘seek agreement’ with the EU - the rules are already there, we just need to comply with them.
No it doesn’t. You only need the laminate over a vaccine sticker - presumably because it would otherwise be possible to peel them off and move them around if you were so inclined. Handwritten vaccine details do not require lamination.
Not easily and not without leaving traces.
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Our new French passport has NO lamination over the rabies sticker. Is this an issue?
See my post #335 above in this thread.
If you like, later today, I will measure the laminate sticker that I used from Nix’s old UK pet passport. I really don’t think that the size is crucial tho’ - it’s just to prevent tampering.
We had a sheet of laminate in the passports when the Belgium vet did our pups.
I have just cut a strip wide enough to cover the rabies bit and kept the rest for when they have to put any new vaccination details in.
I have just cut a strip wide enough to cover the rabies bit and kept the rest for when they have to put any new vaccination details in.
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Jolly good. Welcome to the EU Pet Passport Users Club!No problems!
I have just measured the laminates from the old UK pet passport. They are 52mm long x 21 mm wide, and are matt finish. However the laminate that covers the microchip details page in the French pet passport is shiny. However I really don’t think that anyone will give a toss about laminate size or finish.
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I follow this thread because we have a dog and we take him to France, pre and post Brexit, on the same Irish passport. His previous rabies jab stickers did not get laminated by the vets (the last one laminated by me as the edges were curling up!) His latest jab was in France whilst we were on holiday to preserve the integrity of the passport. It seems through the thread some appear to be reading too much into the whole business. The passport control are concerned with two things: is it the right dog! (Does the chip correspond to the passport) and does he have a current rabies vaccination.
I think as you have mentioned before I don't think the ports are remotely interested in the addresses or laminations. The fundamental issue for the EU is cross border rabies control, which was the origin of the pet passport scheme. It seems different countries and even different regions within a country are making the whole business more complicated than it needs to be by applying their own interpretation of a simple matter.
As for the lamination process our passport has a laminated page inserted between page 22 and 23 with pre-drawn cut aways which nicely cover the rabies sticker sections.
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Update on Dr Jaucot vets my mate called last week for a passport, charged £35 for passport, £35 consultation, £25 for check up and tooth paste £95 in total so feels a bit ripped off. Yes I know he should have asked the price first.
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