Engine oil

[SeanF1]

Morning all. 2023 Peugeot Boxer 2.2 140hp diesel, done 2.8k miles. Oil level is midway between min and max on the dipstick. Is this OK or should I top up? Is it 0w30 or 5w30 I should use?
Thanks all
Sean

 

[Toxkid]

From the Fiat Ducato manual for 2023.

 

[U.Toadifact]

I'd lay aside a day or two to add 0.2 ml of oil at a time!

 

[poppycamper]

I'd lay aside a day or two to add 0.2 ml of oil at a time!

Ah so that is why service charges are so high..

 

[1967bowesj]

View attachment 860792From the Fiat Ducato manual for 2023.

Thats for a digital sensor not a manual dip stick which is designed to physically indicate a level of oil

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[L' Hobo]

Do nothing, it's were it should be!

 

[maison]

Not a maintenance regime I would subscribe to. Oil is very cheap for the task it fulfils. Personally, I do all the filter's and oil yearly, we cover about 5k a year. I changed our fuel filter at 18 months old when we first got the van and it was black, so that gets a yearly change as well. Filter sets are equally relatively cheap. solid preventative insurance. All IMO.
Mike.

This video regarding “black oil” is interesting.

 

[IRHP]

Have you got the Peugeot handbook? Oil spec will be in that.

 

[Just smiffy]

This video regarding “black oil” is interesting.

And it’ll be black as coal again after an hour of driving….

 

[poppycamper]

Back in the day my Old Man used to use a cheap Engine Flush Oil ( can you still get that). When he did an oil change...

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[dash300]

Back in the day my Old Man used to use a cheap Engine Flush Oil ( can you still get that). When he did an oil change...

According to my youngest; marine engineer and Volvo Penta dealer on the South Coast, running an engine on oil flush is not recomended in modern engines any more. Believe me if he could he would offer it as a service option!

 

[L' Hobo]

Back in the day my Old Man used to use a cheap Engine Flush Oil ( can you still get that). When he did an oil change...

Some people still do but I have never been convinced that with diesel detergent oil, it's necessary?

 

[poppycamper]

According to my youngest; marine engineer and Volvo Penta dealer on the South Coast, running an engine on oil flush is not recomended in modern engines any more. Believe me if he could he would offer it as a service option!

Yes indeed... we have moved on from Castrol GTX being the go to oil...

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

The oil did get progressively less viscous as the changes happened. It would have been interesting to see the filter during the changes, or indeed change the filter with each oil change. However, diesels are fundamentally a dirtier engine, so as an experiment I'm not certain what point was trying to be made. I'm still more than comfortable changing my oil once a year, right or wrong, it feels right to me
Mike

 

[poppycamper]

so as an experiment I'm not certain what point was trying to be made. I'm still more than comfortable changing my oil once a year, right or wrong, it feels right to me

I think the original point was to show that after an oil change the customer would not be able to say for certain that oil had not been changed by going by dip stick colour...he then went on as matter of interest to see how many times it would take to see the differance
Yes once a year oil change here too.... always have... always will..

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[maison]

And it’ll be black as coal again after an hour of driving….

Exactly the point of the video, surely.

 

[maison]

The oil did get progressively less viscous as the changes happened. It would have been interesting to see the filter during the changes, or indeed change the filter with each oil change. However, diesels are fundamentally a dirtier engine, so as an experiment I'm not certain what point was trying to be made. I'm still more than comfortable changing my oil once a year, right or wrong, it feels right to me
Mike

The point is that “black oil” doesn’t necessarily mean it needs to be changed as particles left behind from the old oil ”blackens” the new very quickly. However, I agree with your practice and always change oil and filter annually too.

 

[scotjimland]

we have moved on from Castrol GTX being the go to oil...

back in the day... Q 20w-50 Duckhams was the 'go to' oil

 

[maison]

back in the day... Q 20w-50 Duckhams was the 'go to' oil

But nothing smelled as good as Castrol two-stroke oil at full revs.

 

[poppycamper]

back in the day... Q 20w-50 Duckhams was the 'go to' oil

Yea maybe but "Castrol GTX" sounds a lot sexier and flows off the tongue a lot easier than "Duckhams Q 20-50".

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[RV72 SAM 🏴]

Thanks for all the replies so far. I will keep an eye on it for now but would like to carry some spare for safety. Google gives conflicting views as to whether the correct grade for this engine is 0w30 or 5w30. Does anyone know definitively?

Something I should have added is that the van is about to go on her next big trip down to the south of Spain. Not sure if this would change the advice?

Thanks again

2022/23 Fiat Ducato 2.2 Euro 6 . . . I'm sticking with the correct factory recommended oil for top up's whilst in warranty, keeping the empty cans as proof !
Think Shell and Millers do an alternative slightly cheaper.
Just below max on a stick, and a bar below on a guage to be safe.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

But nothing smelled as good as Castrol two-stroke oil at full revs.

I graduated to using Stilh 2T oil. It could be safely run at 100/1. Was clean burning and also less required, but as a side bonus, it also smelt nice. My logic was [ ] if it can run a chainsaw or blower engine at many thousands of RPMs it should work nicely in an air or water cooled 2t engine of a motorcycle. When stripping them down, the lack of wear and carbon was reassuring.
Filters filters and filters again are the secret to 2T longevity, again IMO and gained from many years of running 2T plant and racing 2T off road motorcycles.
Mike.

 

[dunnah01]

But nothing smelled as good as Castrol two-stroke oil at full revs.

If that's Castrol R then totally agree

 

[bigwood]

Digging in the back of memory my dad used to swear by Duckhams 20/50 as used by Henleys the Rover dealer. Apparently it changed from green to black when it needed changing.
If that was true with diesel engines you it would cost you a fortune in oil.

 

[Spriddler]

back in the day... Q 20w-50 Duckhams was the 'go to' oil

Indeed it was; a novel green colour too. Th'engine and the gearbox in the 'sump' used the same oil. You weren't one of the lads unless you used it and fitted Pirelli Cinturato tyres on your shiny Turtle-Waxed Mini.
In the mid 60's we used to race our Minis 25 miles up the A23 from Brighton Palace Pier to the Blue Pencil motel at Gatwick (the coppers in their Morris Minors ignored us) to chat up the air hostesses who over-nighted there. Happy days.

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[scotjimland]

Indeed it was; a novel green colour too. Th'engine and the gearbox in the 'sump' used the same oil. You weren't one of the lads unless you used it and fitted Pirelli Cinturato tyres on your shiny Turtle-Waxed Mini.

yip..indeed I was .. 1964 Mini, British racing green with white roof .. .

My very first car . Reg: BHS 18B .. I bought it in 1968 ..If I recall correctly £220

didn't have those theres.. I was an apprentice electrician in India Tyres, Inchinnan (owned by Dunlop).. so we got a 'discount' on new Dunlop tyres ..

sadly no photos survived