Engine oil

[SeanF1]

Morning all. 2023 Peugeot Boxer 2.2 140hp diesel, done 2.8k miles. Oil level is midway between min and max on the dipstick. Is this OK or should I top up? Is it 0w30 or 5w30 I should use?
Thanks all
Sean

 

[Richard n Ann]

When is the next service due? If it's only a few months away leave it, but keep an eye on it.

 

[Carpmart]

Morning all. 2023 Peugeot Boxer 2.2 140hp diesel, done 2.8k miles. Oil level is midway between min and max on the dipstick. Is this OK or should I top up? Is it 0w30 or 5w30 I should use?
Thanks all
Sean

It’s fine. Assuming you started 2800 miles ago with it at the top of the dipstick you’ve not consumed too much oil on a brand new engine.

 

[Dolmen]

Morning all. 2023 Peugeot Boxer 2.2 140hp diesel, done 2.8k miles. Oil level is midway between min and max on the dipstick. Is this OK or should I top up? Is it 0w30 or 5w30 I should use?
Thanks all
Sean

I would add about 200ml simply because I always like to see it near the full mark, no rational reason. Most of all, I am impressed you have a dipstick, the Fiat 140hp, 2.2 version only has an electronic dial

 

[scotjimland]

Morning all. 2023 Peugeot Boxer 2.2 140hp diesel, done 2.8k miles. Oil level is midway between min and max on the dipstick. Is this OK or should I top up? Is it 0w30 or 5w30 I should use?
Thanks all
Sean

when I change the oil and put the recommended amount in, it only comes to the mid way point ..

if you have it serviced at a dealer, they don't put any extra in..

I would leave as it is.. overfilling can cause problems

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[Dolmen]

when I change the oil and put the recommended amount in, it only comes to the mid way point ..

if you have it serviced at a dealer, they don't put any extra in..

I would leave as it is.. overfilling can cause problems

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU OVERFILL YOUR ENGINE WITH OIL | TotalEnergies in Indonesia

The oil in your engine needs to be changed regularly, but make sure you don’t put too much oil into your car engine to avoid these problems.

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Just to be sure. for when I top up next, are you saying that the full mark on the dipstick/gauge is actually an overfill, or are you simply warning that filling it up to the full level can runs more risk of overfilling

 

[scotjimland]

are you saying that the full mark on the dipstick/gauge is actually an overfill,

no, never said or implied that

as you said >>

I always like to see it near the full mark, no rational reason.

are you simply warning that filling it up to the full level can runs more risk of overfilling

yes .. easily done, and as you said.. no rational reason for doing so

 

[SeanF1]

Thanks for all the replies so far. I will keep an eye on it for now but would like to carry some spare for safety. Google gives conflicting views as to whether the correct grade for this engine is 0w30 or 5w30. Does anyone know definitively?

Something I should have added is that the van is about to go on her next big trip down to the south of Spain. Not sure if this would change the advice?

Thanks again

 

[Drexl]

I have a 2020 Boxer with same engine as yours. The Peugeot oil specification is PSA B71 2312 which is an ACEA C2 0W30 oil. Be wary of the oil checker type websites where you input the reg number - some are incorrect and advise 5W30.
I wouldn't top up the oil if it is at the halfway mark - maybe add half a litre if it goes down to 1/4 above the min mark - that should take the level up to 3/4. Do keep a close eye on the level as Euro6 engines running the 0W30 oil can consume some whilst running in however it should reduce the more miles you cover. If you're going on a long trip I would recommend to carry a couple of litres of oil for topping up as needed.

 

[SeanF1]

I have a 2020 Boxer with same engine as yours. The Peugeot oil specification is PSA B71 2312 which is an ACEA C2 0W30 oil. Be wary of the oil checker type websites where you input the reg number - some are incorrect and advise 5W30.
I wouldn't top up the oil if it is at the halfway mark - maybe add half a litre if it goes down to 1/4 above the min mark - that should take the level up to 3/4. Do keep a close eye on the level as Euro6 engines running the 0W30 oil can consume some whilst running in however it should reduce the more miles you cover. If you're going on a long trip I would recommend to carry a couple of litres of oil for topping up as needed.

Many thanks for this

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[poppycamper]

Morning all. 2023 Peugeot Boxer 2.2 140hp diesel, done 2.8k miles. Oil level is midway between min and max on the dipstick. Is this OK or should I top up? Is it 0w30 or 5w30 I should use?
Thanks all
Sean

I would leave as is.
The max mark is just that... the max ammount ( not the full/running ammount), similar with the min mark...
Correct oil level should be between the two and therefore IMO halfway between the two is perfect....

 

[SeanF1]

When is the next service due? If it's only a few months away leave it, but keep an eye on it.

Not due for another 18 months or 22.6k miles

 

[poppycamper]

Not due for another 18 months or 22.6k miles

A lot of us on here, myself included advocate changing oil every 12 months regardless of mileage.
Others however say load o tosh and it just a waste of money..
Personally I would rather change oil than change engine....

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Check when level, [sorry] but between the lines is fine, however, if you have some oil on board, drip some extra in checking frequently. It's about a LTR from the lower to upper mark on the dip stick. Over filling will also bring on the dreaded orange triangle light on the dashboard, so a smidge under filled is fine.
Mike.

 

[robnchris]

It’s fine. Assuming you started 2800 miles ago with it at the top of the dipstick you’ve not consumed too much oil on a brand new engine.

It's amazing how much a New Engine sucks up the oil

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[poppycamper]

Check when level, [sorry] but between the lines is fine, however, if you have some oil on board, drip some extra in checking frequently. It's about a LTR from the lower to upper mark on the dip stick. Over filling will also bring on the dreaded orange triangle light on the dashboard, so a smidge under filled is fine.
Mike.

In addition to above, let engine sit for a while ( turned off) to allow oil in engine to drain back into sump...

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Not due for another 18 months or 22.6k miles

Not a maintenance regime I would subscribe to. Oil is very cheap for the task it fulfils. Personally, I do all the filter's and oil yearly, we cover about 5k a year. I changed our fuel filter at 18 months old when we first got the van and it was black, so that gets a yearly change as well. Filter sets are equally relatively cheap. solid preventative insurance. All IMO.
Mike.

 

[poppycamper]

It's amazing how much a New Engine sucks up the oil

I thought the opposite was true..
New engines are "tight" and therefore use/leak/burn less oil
As they wear and it "loosens off" it has potential to use more oil..... However in todays engines that ammount is very very minimal

 

[Toxkid]

As Poppycamper says, be careful overfilling, I had similar issue, and engine oil should be measured with a warm/ hot engine with engine not running, and having waited for a minute or so to allow the oil to drain down back to the sump. After that, level gauge showed full again. In the car we have to do exactly the same, as that doesn’t have a dipstick either.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

I thought the opposite was true..
New engines are "tight" and therefore use/leak/burn less oil
As they wear and it "loosens off" it has potential to use more oil..... However in todays engines that ammount is very very minimal

Usually the reverse, the moving parts work harden against each other and form a better seal, along with a bit of carbon.
Mike.

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[tonyidle]

Not a maintenance regime I would subscribe to. Oil is very cheap for the task it fulfils. Personally, I do all the filter's and oil yearly, we cover about 5k a year. I changed our fuel filter at 18 months old when we first got the van and it was black, so that gets a yearly change as well. Filter sets are equally relatively cheap. solid preventative insurance. All IMO.
Mike.

Sort of negates the massive strides made in oil technology though.

 

[dunnah01]

Strange advice above. You should top up to the full mark with the engine cold.

 

[tonyidle]

Usually the reverse, the moving parts work harden against each other and form a better seal, along with a bit of carbon.
Mike.

There's no mystery. Despite huge improvements in engineering accuracy there's still a small amount of piston ring to bore bedding in needed.

 

[robnchris]

I thought the opposite was true..
New engines are "tight" and therefore use/leak/burn less oil
As they wear and it "loosens off" it has potential to use more oil..... However in todays engines that ammount is very very minimal

I'm thinking about the oil being absorbed into all the internal parts of the engine, nothing to do with any loss from leaks etc. If you have ever welded an engine casing you will be surprised at how much oil soaks into the grain structure.

 

[jezport]

Middle of the stick when cold is perfect.

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[donkey]

A lot of engines take just over 5litres of oil. So a pain when buying. I find most will take a 5 litre can, which takes the level about three quarters, hence no messing about with an extra litre bottle, which can cost nearly half a 5 litre bottle.

Geoff

 

[bigwood]

My Series 3 Landrover didn’t need a dip stick. When it stopped leaking it needed topping up.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Sort of negates the massive strides made in oil technology though.

IYO.So we agree to differ.
Mike.

 

[treblid]

Strange advice above. You should top up to the full mark with the engine cold.

Topping up to full when COLD will result in an overfill when at normal running temperature.

Engine oil level should always be checked at normal running temperature leaving 15 to 20 mins after stopping for drain back before checking the level.

 

[dunnah01]

Topping up to full when COLD will result in an overfill when at normal running temperature.

Engine oil level should always be checked at normal running temperature leaving 15 to 20 mins after stopping for drain back before checking the level.

Old Skool me has always checked cold and kept it as close as possible to full mark, never had any cat problems so not going to change now