Ehu socket replacement

[Jewellbags]

I need to replace our socket as the flag is knackered . Looks a simple enough job to me . Should I switch off the fuses etc before ? Any other tips welcome

 

[pappajohn]

Just change it.
No need to isolate or disconnect anything.
Ensure you reconnect the wires the correct way round.
Remove the socket and photo the back before removing wires to assist refitting.

 

[oldiesontour]

Just change it.
No need to isolate or disconnect anything.
Ensure you reconnect the wires the correct way round.
Remove the socket and photo the back before removing wires to assist refitting.

No need to isolate or disconnect anything....
Except may be the incoming mains supply

 

[The Wino]

Don't forget some mastic tape or non setting mastic on refitting

 

[Barriesimpson]

No need to isolate or disconnect anything....
Except may be the incoming mains supply

Well if you are changing the plug, obviously the mains supply will be disconnected.

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[pappajohn]

Well if you are changing the plug, obviously the mains supply will be disconnected.

Changing the socket on the van side, not the plug

 

[oldiesontour]

Well if you are changing the plug, obviously the mains supply will be disconnected.

Not if U remove the socket U are changing from the rear first or from the body whilst still on ehu...light hearted comment

 

[The Wino]

Changing the socket on the van side, not the plug

True although I would say anyone who would try and do it without taking off the mains lead will just cock it up some other way

 

[Barriesimpson]

Changing the socket on the van side, not the plug

Well that's what I meant. You cannot change the socket with the plug plugged in.

 

[Barriesimpson]

Not if U remove the socket U are changing from the rear first or from the body whilst still on ehu...light hearted comment

Yeah, live dangerously....

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[Jewellbags]

Don't forget some mastic tape or non setting mastic on refitting

Normal waterproof sealant like the rest of the van ?

 

[nicholsong]

Changing the socket on the van side, not the plug

Oh goodee! Semantics - nearly as good as a toilet thread.

One could call the van fitting a 'socket' in that one pushes the plastic fitting at the end of the EHU lead into it.

However, the working guts of the connection is the contact between the metal parts which carry the current. The van fitting contains the 3 pins, which for most other connections are associated with the word ;plug or 'male''. Conversely the fitting at the end of the cabl contains the holes which accept the 'pins and are usually associated with the word ' socket' or 'female'.

So I posit that one could decribe the van fitting as a 'plastic socket containing a 'plug'.

Any advance on that?

 

[The Wino]

Normal waterproof sealant like the rest of the van ?

Yes but not silicone

 

[CAB96]

Oh goodee! Semantics - nearly as good as a toilet thread.

One could call the van fitting a 'socket' in that one pushes the plastic fitting at the end of the EHU lead into it.

However, the working guts of the connection is the contact between the metal parts which carry the current. The van fitting contains the 3 pins, which for most other connections are associated with the word ;plug or 'male''. Conversely the fitting at the end of the cabl contains the holes which accept the 'pins and are usually associated with the word ' socket' or 'female'.

So I posit that one could decribe the van fitting as a 'plastic socket containing a 'plug'.

Any advance on that?

So, what you are saying is, that the plug on the end of the cable is not, in fact, a plug, but is a socket. Even though this 'not plug' is inserted into the socket in the side of the van.

Moreover, you also assert that the socket in the van is not, in fact, a socket, but is actually a plug. In the side of the van. With a flap to cover the socket sorry, plug, into which you insert the plug sorry, socket on the end of the cable.

But what about the other end of the cable? If the socket end goes into the van plug, then the mains end must plug (or is that socket?) into the EHU socket. Or is that a plug

Just clarifying

 

[The Wino]

So, what you are saying is, that the plug on the end of the cable is not, in fact, a plug, but is a socket. Even though this 'not plug' is inserted into the socket in the side of the van.

Moreover, you also assert that the socket in the van is not, in fact, a socket, but is actually a plug. In the side of the van. With a flap to cover the socket sorry, plug, into which you insert the plug sorry, socket on the end of the cable.

But what about the other end of the cable? If the socket end goes into the van plug, then the mains end must plug (or is that socket?) into the EHU socket. Or is that a plug

Just clarifying

Sounds like yes minister!

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[Vanderek]

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

So, what you are saying is, that the plug on the end of the cable is not, in fact, a plug, but is a socket. Even though this 'not plug' is inserted into the socket in the side of the van.

Moreover, you also assert that the socket in the van is not, in fact, a socket, but is actually a plug. In the side of the van. With a flap to cover the socket sorry, plug, into which you insert the plug sorry, socket on the end of the cable.

But what about the other end of the cable? If the socket end goes into the van plug, then the mains end must plug (or is that socket?) into the EHU socket. Or is that a plug

Just clarifying

Yeh, socket it too him
Mike.

 

[Ingwe]

Any advance on that?

Zzzzzzzzz!

 

[Pausim]

What has a knackered flag got to do with an EHU socket? Where is this socket, on a motorhome, on a building or on a post? We say we plug in both ends of the EHU cable but the vehicle end of the wire looks like a socket to me which would make the bit on the vehicle a plug. When it comes to mains electricity it seems to me that you need to make sure we are all talking about the same thing.

 

[MisterB]

Nobody has mentioned that you will need to use a screwdriver. There are several types of screwdrivers so you may need to go out and buy a completely new set.

You also need a couple of mains testing devices. One of the type that plugs in to a socket so you can test each socket in the van after completing the task, though it can't be used for the socket you're replacing (even if the socket is a plug, as has been pointed out), and a pen type device that allows you to check if you have 'power' by touching the cable.
The plug in device will also tell you if you have crossed/reversed polarity, of which others may be able to offer further advice. There are lots of threads on reversed polarity so I suggest you sit down and do some research for a few hours, making sure you keep your fluid levels high during the research period.

There may be a need to extend the cable inside the motorhome if the existing cable is not long enough to be able to make the connections. The existing cable ends may look all dull and you may prefer shiny copper so you may have to reduce the length of the existing cable. In which case you will need more cable and a set of wire strippers. These strippers are different than normal strippers and are usually a lot cheaper

A multimeter might be needed at some point either during the install or for some other related matter, so perhaps it's worth purchasing at the same time.

I haven't mentioned rubber gloves for additional PPE as I have very little knowledge in selecting the correct level of PPE that may be required, hopefully someone else may be able to offer detailed advice.

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[cyberyacht]

So, what you are saying is, that the plug on the end of the cable is not, in fact, a plug, but is a socket. Even though this 'not plug' is inserted into the socket in the side of the van.

Moreover, you also assert that the socket in the van is not, in fact, a socket, but is actually a plug. In the side of the van. With a flap to cover the socket sorry, plug, into which you insert the plug sorry, socket on the end of the cable.

But what about the other end of the cable? If the socket end goes into the van plug, then the mains end must plug (or is that socket?) into the EHU socket. Or is that a plug

Just clarifying

I can't believe it's not butter - Alice Tinker

 

[St3v3]

. Even though this 'not plug' is inserted into the socket in the side of the van.

The bit on the van goes inside the bit on the cable. Therefore the plug (van) is inserted into socket (cable). It's just more convenient to move the cable not the van.

Google 16A socket:

16a socket - Google Search

Vs. 16A plug:

16a plug - Google Search

 

[Jewellbags]

LOL I’ve ordered the replacement and fitted it quicker than this thread has finished . Very easy

 

[Tea Bag]

Not if U remove the socket U are changing from the rear first or from the body whilst still on ehu...light hearted comment

Hi
Love it ..... " .light hearted moment " ............... or...... FRIZZY HAIR TIME !!
Tea Bag.

Nobody has mentioned that you will need to use a screwdriver. There are several types of screwdrivers so you may need to go out and buy a completely new set.

You also need a couple of mains testing devices. One of the type that plugs in to a socket so you can test each socket in the van after completing the task, though it can't be used for the socket you're replacing (even if the socket is a plug, as has been pointed out), and a pen type device that allows you to check if you have 'power' by touching the cable.
The plug in device will also tell you if you have crossed/reversed polarity, of which others may be able to offer further advice. There are lots of threads on reversed polarity so I suggest you sit down and do some research for a few hours, making sure you keep your fluid levels high during the research period.

There may be a need to extend the cable inside the motorhome if the existing cable is not long enough to be able to make the connections. The existing cable ends may look all dull and you may prefer shiny copper so you may have to reduce the length of the existing cable. In which case you will need more cable and a set of wire strippers. These strippers are different than normal strippers and are usually a lot cheaper

A multimeter might be needed at some point either during the install or for some other related matter, so perhaps it's worth purchasing at the same time.

I haven't mentioned rubber gloves for additional PPE as I have very little knowledge in selecting the correct level of PPE that may be required, hopefully someone else may be able to offer detailed advice.

Hi Mr
Would it not be easier to make electicity...Visible ?...... Wear a Yellow vest ? Talking as someone who has been BITTEN by leccy when not ready !!. >
Tea Bag

 

[pappajohn]

A plug has 3 visible pins regardless of what they are or aren't surrounded by.
A socket has 3 holes regardless of what they are surrounded by.
The end of a hookup cable has 3 pins which go into a hookup post.
The other end is a socket with 3 holes and a Spring loaded flap which plugs into a plug with 3 pins on the side of the motorhome.
The socket is on the van end of the cable so you can't touch the live pins when plugged into the hookup post

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[MisterB]

Hi
Love it ..... " .light hearted moment " ............... or...... FRIZZY HAIR TIME !!
Tea Bag.

Hi Mr
Would it not be easier to make electicity...Visible ?...... Wear a Yellow vest ? Talking as someone who has been BITTEN by leccy when not ready !!. >
Tea Bag

i did think about the yellow vest syndrome, it seems it makes everyone who is wearing one always correct in whatever they do or tell others to do or not to do ..... and can only be 'trumped' by either a yellow vest wearing clipboard holder or the ulitmate 'vesty', a fluorescent pink one ....

 

[Don Campbell]

So now we have "crossed over" into a totally different area better stop this before it gets out of hand. Not really up to toilet thread standards.

 

[scotzsue]

It's easy peasy, even I have done it, after demolishing the one on my doblo opening the whoosh bang on the side i didn't really use.

 

[GrahamPye]

True although I would say anyone who would try and do it without taking off the mains lead will just cock it up some other way

From Darwinian principles that might remove them from the gene pool though...

A long time ago when I was an Electronic Engineering student, we just in time (or perhaps not, see above...) managed to stop a couple of my fellow students who were making an extension lead, and having put the plug on one end of the cable they plugged it in and were about to strip the cable at the other end!

 

[seanandjules]

LOL I’ve ordered the replacement and fitted it quicker than this thread has finished . Very easy

Got a link? Mines broken too!

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