EES and UK Residents in Schengen countries.

[nicholsong]

I have read several official descriptions of the effect of the EES which will be implemented on 6th October 2024.

They all state that EU Citizens are exempt, but I cannot find any reference to non-EU passport holders who are officially resident in a Schengen state.

If such a Resident visits a third party country then on re-entering Schengen are they subject to EES rules?

Has anyone seen any official pronouncement on this?

 

[The Wino]

But is guaranteed not to be brought in before the Paris Olympics finish on 11th August & possibly not before the paralympics ends.
+Just make sure you suggest seperate lanes for those of us unaffected please:

Presumably everyone will be affected as people entering and leaving who are Schengen residents will still need to go through the biometric id process

 

[The Wino]

Not going to disagree. I would also like to see biometric ID cards, and can see a lot of common sense in knowing which people were entering a country. Wish we did.
I am simply pointing out that we can expect some pretty serious disruption. At least until some common sense automated measures are introduced to speed up the process.

However, I don't want UK to join Schengen.

I don't think there's any prospect of us joining Schengen but it doesn't mean we can't have a system that's compatible with theirs. Once in place presumably a benefit would be that everyone within Schengen will have an id issued on arrival and you can't lose your biometric data!

 

[oldiesontour]

Would it be worth starting a people smuggling business aimed at UK holiday makers wanting a bit of a break abroad.
Bonus we could charge them for smuggling them both ways (if they wanted to come back)

 

[DDJC]

I don't think there's any prospect of us joining Schengen but it doesn't mean we can't have a system that's compatible with theirs. Once in place presumably a benefit would be that everyone within Schengen will have an id issued on arrival and you can't lose your biometric data!

Yep agree again. I can't imagine that the EU (mainly France) wants to lose hundreds of thousands of holidaymakers who can't be arsed with EU bureaucracy, so I think that some sort of automated compromise will be introduced and added on to the ETIAS system next year.

But no amount of bureaucracy will stop me going over the water. Having spent the Easter weekend in Wales, I am ever more conscious that shortsighted local councils hate motorhomes. Fine, we will take our money and spend it in Europe, where we are welcomed and accommodated.

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[DDJC]

+Just make sure you suggest seperate lanes for those of us unaffected please:

Dunno about that Gus. You will still have to show a card, slap a hand on ID plate and stare inanely into a screen until it bleeps, like the rest of us.

 

[nicholsong]

But is guaranteed not to be brought in before the Paris Olympics finish on 11th August & possibly not before the paralympics ends.
+Just make sure you suggest seperate lanes for those of us unaffected please:

Including those on Resident Card issued under the Withdrawal Agreement who are exempt (Art 38 UST 4 UMOWY WYSTAPIENIA) I hope French Immigration can read Polish!