Ecoflo, is this a good buy. (52 Viewers)

[chaser]

Been looking at these things for a while now, is it any good? Looks to be a good price unless you know better.

EcoFlow DELTA 1800W Portable Power Station Camping Travel Backup 2 Year Warranty | eBay

- Hampshire Generators are the only UK EcoFlow supplier with factory trained engineers - 1800W (Surge 3300W) / Battery capacity 1260Wh - Full UK Specification With UK 3-Pin Sockets - Power recharge lights, laptops, tablets, phones USB gadgets - Silent zero emissions rechargeable lithium-ion...

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[chaser]

Been looking at these things for a while now, is it any good? Looks to be a good price unless you know better.

EcoFlow DELTA 1800W Portable Power Station Camping Travel Backup 2 Year Warranty | eBay

- Hampshire Generators are the only UK EcoFlow supplier with factory trained engineers - 1800W (Surge 3300W) / Battery capacity 1260Wh - Full UK Specification With UK 3-Pin Sockets - Power recharge lights, laptops, tablets, phones USB gadgets - Silent zero emissions rechargeable lithium-ion...

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No one knows then?

 

[Jev88]

I don't understand these power banks Unless you want portability to a tent????

Cheaper to upgrade your leisure batteries and add solar.

Ecoflow only has 110ah.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Battery Type

Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)

So no

 

[chaser]

I don't understand these power banks Unless you want portability to a tent????

Cheaper to upgrade your leisure batteries and add solar.

Ecoflow only has 110ah.

Was thinking of collecting my spare solar in the van then using it in the house, is there a better deal then?

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[Langtoftlad]

Was thinking of collecting my spare solar in the van then using it in the house, is there a better deal then?

Don't know, but the battery chemistry is not as safe as LiFePo4, potentially combustible .
Longer recharge time and not as many charging cycles
There's a reason they're cheaper.

 

[Dilwyn]

EcoFlow DELTA uses lithium-ion (NCM) batteries, while the EcoFlow DELTA 2 uses lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries.
Cheap as it is old tech and not the latest version which is the Delta 2.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Was thinking of collecting my spare solar in the van then using it in the house, is there a better deal then?

Just run a cable into the house.

 

[chaser]

Just run a cable into the house.

I know but I have got to have something in between , it's not going to boil my kettle on twelve volts.

 

[DangerMousy]

We've had an EcoFlow Delta for a year now and are very happy with it. £550 is less than we paid last year, so it's a decent deal.

Having said that, if you have a Costco membership you can get the newer Delta 2 for £600

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[Jez1966]

Don't know, but the battery chemistry is not as safe as LiFePo4, potentially combustible .
Longer recharge time and not as many charging cycles
There's a reason they're cheaper.

It depends on which unit you buy, not looked at every single unit but would seem any unit listed as 2/Pro in River or Delta range is LifeP04/LPF
batteries with so would meet Langtoftlad approval, I'd not buy Lithium-ion.
Link from Ecoflow website to 1800w is LPF but £799.

New EcoFlow DELTA 2 Portable Power Station - EcoFlow UK - EcoFlow UK

EcoFlow DELTA 2 equips modern families with backup power for any emergency. Incredibly fast charging: 0%-80% in 50 min. Be prepared, always.

uk.ecoflow.com

Not sure why you'd want 1800w to change "phones", it has no 13amp plugs.
Seems there are options on there to power the world, happy picking.

 

[Jez1966]

I don't understand these power banks Unless you want portability to a tent????

Cheaper to upgrade your leisure batteries and add solar.

Ecoflow only has 110ah.

A proper lithium upgrade to a MoHo will cost significantly more than Ecoflow, LifeP04 units.
Adding a portable solar panel will naturally increase the Ecoflow cost as well..

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

I know but I have got to have something in between , it's not going to boil my kettle on twelve volts.

An inverter would be of more use to you than a powerbank. Unless you have lots of space in your van .it's just a boxed lithium with a built in inverter and outlets that your paying top wack for.
Better with another lithium for your van and an inverter. You can then dry your hair anytime.
We have boiled 3 kettle full of water today as the batteries are full and still plenty of sun. Flasks full and you can only drink so much coffee.

 

[Jez1966]

An inverter would be of more use to you than a powerbank. Unless you have lots of space in your van .it's just a boxed lithium with a built in inverter and outlets that your paying top wack for.
Better with another lithium for your van and an inverter. You can then dry your hair anytime.
We have boiled 3 kettle full of water today as the batteries are full and still plenty of sun. Flasks full and you can only drink so much coffee.

So how much was your lithium & inverter upgrade + upgrade to solar & assorted other required stuff cost?

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

So how much was your lithium & inverter upgrade + upgrade to solar & assorted other required stuff cost?

A100ah lithium is around £219 and a 1500w inverter around £150.
I already had the inverter .
I am installing 2 additional solar panels 195w each) Plus 2 additional 100ah lithium batteries to replace 2 x leads that I have on a separate system.the leads are 110ah and 95 ah agm but they have been running OK for the past 3 years ( lead is at least 8 years old and the agm came with the van , 2017. But they won't discharge below 60% like the lithium.

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[DangerMousy]

So how much was your lithium & inverter upgrade + upgrade to solar & assorted other required stuff cost?

I know you weren't asking me.....but I costed out upgrading our MH to a similar spec to the EcoFlow (here) .... in short, the EcoFlow was much cheaper. Yes, not as convenient, but I can put up with a bit of inconvenience in return for over £1k in my pocket.

 

[Wh05apk]

If you are looking to use surplus solar from the van, unless your farm is a mobile solar farm it will be a waste of time, if the battery is the equivilant of 1kw, if you van can fill it you will save at max about 25p a day, payback will probably take far longer than most of us have got left.....

 

[chaser]

A100ah lithium is around £219 and a 1500w inverter around £150.
I already had the inverter .
I am installing 2 additional solar panels 195w each) Plus 2 additional 100ah lithium batteries to replace 2 x leads that I have on a separate system.the leads are 110ah and 95 ah agm but they have been running OK for the past 3 years ( lead is at least 8 years old and the agm came with the van , 2017. But they won't discharge below 60% like the lithium.

It's all way to complicated for what I wanted to do.
I have loads of electric in the van , that's the thing it pains me to see my battery's full at 10 o clock in the morning and then for the rest of the day I have 200w of solar just going to waste , more or less everything in the van runs on 12 volt so real need for just a fixed inverter although I do have a small one in there just in case but it's never really been used for anything.

 

[chaser]

If you are looking to use surplus solar from the van, unless your farm is a mobile solar farm it will be a waste of time, if the battery is the equivilant of 1kw, if you van can fill it you will save at max about 25p a day, payback will probably take far longer than most of us have got left.....

It's always there to use for something else though isn't it , using power tools down the field for 1.

 

[chaser]

I am taking all this on board though I am not arguing , I don't know that's why I asked in the first place.
Thanks for all the answers.

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[AdrianChen]

No one knows then?

Appear to be on offer from the makers direct, these are £1 cheaper, so seem a good price for lfp, and the functionality...

 

[Langtoftlad]

Lithium-ion
LiFePo4 ️

• Portable vs Fixed Install
• Simplicity (all in one box) vs Complexity (lots of different components, all needing compatibility)
• Flexibility (many potential uses, gets power where you want it) vs Single Use (tied to your van)
• Don't lose your investment when you move your van on.
• Annoys the fixed Lithium battery install fan boys .

 

[Jez1966]

I know you weren't asking me.....but I costed out upgrading our MH to a similar spec to the EcoFlow (here) .... in short, the EcoFlow was much cheaper. Yes, not as convenient, but I can put up with a bit of inconvenience in return for over £1k in my pocket.

Welcome, as a memeber you're the aim of the forum is to permit EVERYONE to ask any question they have and contribute their view/experience.
Caveat, given the history of this forum SEARCH 1st.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

It's always there to use for something else though isn't it , using power tools down the field for 1.

Get yourself a couple of good flasks. The type with a trigger release. When batts are100% put the kettle on and fill the flasks. Ideal for washing up or a coffee.

 

[Jez1966]

It's all way to complicated for what I wanted to do.
I have loads of electric in the van , that's the thing it pains me to see my battery's full at 10 o clock in the morning and then for the rest of the day I have 200w of solar just going to waste , more or less everything in the van runs on 12 volt so real need for just a fixed inverter although I do have a small one in there just in case but it's never really been used for anything.

200w Solar will not give you a directly usable inverted 240v usable supply.
You can't directly use solar you have to store it.

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[chaser]

200w Solar will not give you a directly usable inverted 240v usable supply.
You can't directly use solar you have to store it.

Isn't that what I have said?

 

[chaser]

So all in all the consensus seems to be it's not a good idea and this thing has got the wrong type of battery in it.
So has anyone got another idea what to do with my spare electric.
No point in putting in lithium batteries as I have got more electric than I know what to do with now.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

So has anyone got another idea what to do with my spare electric.
No point in putting in lithium batteries as I have got more electric than I know what to do with now.

Close the house up, disconnect the electric and live in the van all summer

 

[Jez1966]

So all in all the consensus seems to be it's not a good idea and this thing has got the wrong type of battery in it.
So has anyone got another idea what to do with my spare electric.
No point in putting in lithium batteries as I have got more electric than I know what to do with now.

There is no consensus.
The OP was considering a Lithium-Ion battery that is not the latest/safest option.
Ecoflow have multiple LifeP04 options.
There 3 options with "spare" electricity, dump, use NOW, store.
The only serious option is store.

 

[starquake]

We love our Delta2, and we use it both in the van and outside, which a fixed install would not. We're back from weekend 10 mins ago and the battery is charging now via solar panels moved into our back garden. It'll be used in the house for next 2 weeks to reduce the home leccy bil, and then go back in van in time for our next trip out with the van.

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