Dont book a holiday

[bobnick]

The way things are going we might just get back by end March in time to start our holidays.
Nobody knows. I used to guess in my school exams.............failed every one.

 

[orridge]

Holidays or no Holidays what we need is a timetable of how we might relax and come out of lockdown based on the vaccination programmes this drip feeding of information and we might tell you something on the 22nd is making things worse better to have some plans and adjust accordingly rather than this day to day existing. Other countries have this under control we need to accept maybe other countries have some better ideas on this than our government currently does.

 

[coroner]

We can all go to the land of my fathers from easter according to dragfoot Anglsey here I come unless shiftz dynamites the meni crossings

 

[Skyway]

I’m going to Scotland in June.

And tbh, I’m Going regardless, I don’t see how loading the 4x4 and driving non stop to Stirling for pay at pump fuel before going onto a remote cottage with no neighbours and staying there, with acres of lone space, including fishing, walking, wildlife viewing etc and only Asda or Tesco deliveries is any less safe than being at home with no space and going off my head.

Indeed but that won’t stop the police turning you back and a fine be careful
Long way to get turn back

 

[The general]

Other countries have this under control we need to accept maybe other countries have some better ideas on this than our government currently does.

I fear not many countries at all

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[Boris7]

I think the governments issue is the death rate among those who get covid is too high, the world average is 2.18% of those with the disease die from it.

We have now pulled ours down to 2.85% but if they let us mingle more people will get it, and the NHS isn’t coping as well simple due to the numbers, increase the numbers again and the death rate among those with the disease will go back up again, simple because the NHS is so stretched.

Over the next few months that rate MUST fall, it’s actually not so important how many get it, but it’s vital to reduce the number of deaths among people who do get covid.

 

[orridge]

I fear not many countries at all

Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Vietnam to name a few have a much better handle on it.

 

[The general]

A lot haven’t in fact most haven’t !

 

[Silver-Fox]

If not, just park on the road to a campsite and say you are queuing till there is a space, just like queues for Glastonbury, Ascot, Grand Prix, Three Counties Show, etc.

I like your style there

 

[LesW]

This is a typical first world problem.. people dying in their thousands, doctors and nurses at their wits end, those in authority struggling to ease the issue, and others wondering if they can go on holiday.

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[EuroTrotters]

I personally think the ones in charge will need to relax restrictions. Otherwise the populace will rise up in opposition to the lockdown.
How long are people prepared to put up with just existing and not living?
This year? Another year? Five years? Ten years? The rest of their lives?
If there doesn’t soon seem to be something to look forward to people will just give up following any form of restriction.
This is just my thoughts though. I’m not starting a revolution. Too much hard work .

The problem with Covid case reportings are, as I understand it.

People who die from heart attack or stroke, who are, or have tested positive within the last 28 days. Are reported within the figures. So the figures are not going to come down. The more this carries on, the less I believe it.

 

[Boris7]

Indeed but that won’t stop the police turning you back and a fine be careful
Long way to get turn back

Don’t see an issue, I’ve registered my 4x4 at the Scottish cottage and motorway based ANPR is not flagging Scottish vehicles.

 

[Silver-Fox]

This is a typical first world problem.. people dying in their thousands, doctors and nurses at their wits end, those in authority struggling to ease the issue, and others wondering if they can go on holiday.

My thoughts as well.

You’re not going to die from not going away but you might if you do go away

 

[Silver-Fox]

People who die from heart attack or stroke, who are, or have tested positive within the last 28 days. Are reported within the figures. So the figures are not going to come down. The more this carries on, the less I believe it.

That is part of the problem with the figures.
Died of or died with a big difference.

But dead non the less.

 

[68c]

Don’t see an issue, I’ve registered my 4x4 at the Scottish cottage and motorway based ANPR is not flagging Scottish vehicles.

Perhaps folk with more than one residence should have to declare one as current during Covid restrictions, not allowed to swop back and forth.

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[Swifter]

It’s 7 weeks today until Good Friday. If that isn’t enough time to get things ready for Easter holidays to be possible then I can’t see anything improving this year. The road map announcement is now sometime in the week commencing 22nd of February rather than that actual day as previously suggested .
All the people that are happy to stay locked down forever are probably not trying to work from home whilst providing home education for their children !

 

[Larrynwin]

Holidays or no Holidays what we need is a timetable of how we might relax and come out of lockdown based on the vaccination programmes this drip feeding of information and we might tell you something on the 22nd is making things worse better to have some plans and adjust accordingly rather than this day to day existing. Other countries have this under control we need to accept maybe other countries have some better ideas on this than our government currently does.

Don’t see how that’s possible, make predictions and another variant causes problems and everyone as usual will blame the PM .
Nothing is predictable at the moment so basing plans on shifting sands and with so many still hospitalised and still far more cases than last time we eased lockdown would be crazy plus any changing of plans would bring the screams of “ another U turn “ .
The PM is best to keep his powder dry until he is ready and not be pressured by the opposition the MSM and every other expert on gods earth.
The only country that honestly has this under control is the Isle of Man.

 

[orridge]

The only country that honestly has this under control is the Isle of Man.

I would beg to differ Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan are all good examples.

 

[Larrynwin]

I would beg to differ Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan are all good examples.

I agree with that but few are of comparable population and and density with U.K.

 

[two]

Planning to use the van as soon as it's warm enough.
Not been to the bottom of the garden for months, so the change will make a break.
Might also be a good to remind myself what everything does and see if it still works.

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[Rapido925M]

Don’t see how that’s possible, make predictions and another variant causes problems and everyone as usual will blame the PM .
Nothing is predictable at the moment so basing plans on shifting sands and with so many still hospitalised and still far more cases than last time we eased lockdown would be crazy plus any changing of plans would bring the screams of “ another U turn “ .
The PM is best to keep his powder dry until he is ready and not be pressured by the opposition the MSM and every other expert on gods earth.
The only country that honestly has this under control is the Isle of Man.

Much of the pressure is coming from the Tory back benches!

Gordon

 

[Jaws]

Government saying unlikely we will have a holiday this year. What are everyones thoughts. We have France booked and Scotland.
Still have ferries from last year and some sites just keep rolling them over.

It was ONE bloke... and he was more or less told to shut up by others... No one knows what the future holds, but I am very optimistic

 

[Googlebot]

The problem with Covid case reportings are, as I understand it.

People who die from heart attack or stroke, who are, or have tested positive within the last 28 days. Are reported within the figures. So the figures are not going to come down. The more this carries on, the less I believe it.

COVID causes a lot of mortality from secondary issues like strokes and heart attacks, usually within 28 days hence the measure. It must be fairly accurate as the excess death rate mirrors it and you can’t fake that.

I have seen it all first hand, looked at our own organisations figures and seen the patients with my own eyes.

People have died in their thousands, I don’t know what you have to disbelieve?

 

[suavecarve]

I think the governments issue is the death rate among those who get covid is too high, the world average is 2.18% of those with the disease die from it.

We have now pulled ours down to 2.85% but if they let us mingle more people will get it, and the NHS isn’t coping as well simple due to the numbers, increase the numbers again and the death rate among those with the disease will go back up again, simple because the NHS is so stretched.

Over the next few months that rate MUST fall, it’s actually not so important how many get it, but it’s vital to reduce the number of deaths among people who do get covid.

A more accurate figure for our percentage death rate is 2.3% at present.
Your figure was for the whole of the pandemic but 2.3% represents the second wave from 1st November to now and negates the false figure created by having several deaths in March and April but doing next to no tests.

It could be pointed out that all the other countries werent testing in April and March last year either which would still show the same sort of differential as the Worlds for the same period is 1.91% to compare to our 2.3%.

 

[fullfat]

This is a typical first world problem.. people dying in their thousands, doctors and nurses at their wits end, those in authority struggling to ease the issue, and others wondering if they can go on holiday.

That’ll be the majority on here then

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[Larrynwin]

Much of the pressure is coming from the Tory back benches!

Gordon

Yes some fools there , axes to grind and they don’t carry the can for another four years

 

[John Barrett]

Seeing that the 2nd dose timetable to meet our PO/Santander booking for 22 April is a bit iffy, and the balance of £368 is due next week, we have decided to change our plans! Now booked PO/Caen for 5th September, and we'll meander South through France instead! The new balance payable in July is £2.90...

 

[Boris7]

A more accurate figure for our percentage death rate is 2.3% at present.
Your figure was for the whole of the pandemic but 2.3% represents the second wave from 1st November to now and negates the false figure created by having several deaths in March and April but doing next to no tests.

It could be pointed out that all the other countries werent testing in April and March last year either which would still show the same sort of differential as the Worlds for the same period is 1.91% to compare to our 2.3%.

This weeks figures

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[Boris7]

Perhaps folk with more than one residence should have to declare one as current during Covid restrictions, not allowed to swop back and forth.

Just to be clear, we’ve not been to the cottage in Scotland even when we could have, but I will be going in June.

 

[Boris7]

This weeks figures

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Sorry just re-read, yes out figures have fallen, but not enough.

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