Dodgy bloke knocking and asking to buy MH!

[Odd-no-more]

Be aware that you are not allowed to record images of passers by on the footpath or street. They must be fully on your property to be legal

Are you sure about that? I thought it's ok if in a public place, look at the way they pap the celebs. It's a very long time since I worked as a photographer but back then any image caught in public was considered news reel

 

[Jammi]

Are you sure about that? I thought it's ok if in a public place, look at the way they pap the celebs. It's a very long time since I worked as a photographer but back then any image caught in public was considered news reel

It’s a common misunderstanding.
Out in public you’re fair game. Private property you’re not.

 

[AlandSue]

Anyone know how I can check if the alarm and/or immobiliser is actually working?
We’ve only had the van a year and don’t have any record of either, just dealer that mentioned them.

when parking up in between trips, I also fit a high quality “d lock”that I use on my e bike made by Abus .
being a non standard antitheft device for a motorhome, a thief may be caught unawares and will need a angle grinder to remove it .

Anyone know how I can check if the alarm and/or immobiliser is actually working?
We’ve only had the van a year and don’t have any record of either, just dealer that mentioned them.

 

[Jammi]

when parking up in between trips, I also fit a high quality “d lock”that I use on my e bike made by Abus .
being a non standard antitheft device for a motorhome, a thief may be caught unawares and will need a angle grinder to remove it .

That looks simple but effective.

 

[britvic]

It has become apparent that the travelling community is moving from caravans to Motorhomes, so they can move very quickly if needed. Police regularly check their vehicles, so it’s easier for them to buy them than steal them for now. Not saying how they got the money though.

Spot on, we noticed a few years ago traveller’s in vans were on most of the campsites in Cornwall it seems to be the younger generation.

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[gwyntaxi]

Our MH is stored on my Dads drive.
Today a bloke in a truck with a thick Irish accent knocked at his door and asked if he’d like to sell the MH.
Dad said he was definitely a traveller type and was quite insistent.
Obviously said no, it wasn’t his MH anyway and we didn’t want to sell either.

Am now feeling a bit paranoid!
It’s not new, 2015 reg. We have an alarm and immobiliser so I was told by dealer.
Steering wheel lock, hab door lock and I went over this afternoon turned the cab seats and chained the cab doors together.
Parents park their car in front of it overnight too.

Am I right to be feeling worried?

Not really, it could’ve been a genuine enough enquiry and it’s just a possibility that if you had said yes you could possibly have made a quick and maybe hassle free profitable sale, some folk who are genuinely looking to buy and spot a model of van which they are looking for and will knock your door, nothing wrong with asking , I do agree that there are some dodgy ones out there who are just casing the van etc....Just sayin....

 

[DPM111R]

My answer would be - no, I just spent a load of money on a GPS tracker so it can't be stolen.
It might persuade some to look elsewhere for an "easier" target?
As it happens I've had one on my van since new and it costs around a £100 per year to keep it working.

 

[gus-lopez]

and will need a angle grinder to remove it .

Most carry them as a matter of course as do many of us.

 

[Orion]

Most carry them as a matter of course as do many of us.

Tis true - ideal for ‘unlocking’ deliberately blocked public rights of way!

 

[Jolak]

I've just recently bought my 2015 Elddis mh and apart from fully comp insurance, I have also paid just over a couple of hundred quid for asset protection insurance, or GAP insurance as it's known. It will cover me for five years to top up the insurance payout to the level that I paid for the motorhome. The shortfall is bound to be at least seven grand or so, so well worth it to stop me crying into my beer after it's nicked. I will, of course, also take all precautions to safeguard it, but I know how determined these people are. You can shop around and get a good deal on Gap insurance so don't accept what the Sales guy offers you. It's also transferable to your next one if you change before the term is up. Got it on my car as well.

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[Wildbill]

I get them at my door regularly I just ask them do you see any for sale signs NO well that's your answer.
Bill

 

[Korova]

Another one here who gets "enquiries" about three times per year from Irish blokes. Even get the same guy every March with the same script "want it for my dad etc". Always polite and move on when I tell them not for sale.

 

[Ian Bosman]

Who is saying you are not allowed and not legal ?

Do you have a Dash Cam?

Having been burgled we have views from our drive parts of the street for our own use as part of our security, I have two different systems one is Ring and a Uniview system

The system does not peer into peoples homes or their garden which would be a private area, there is no problem capturing and storing images from a public place. My neighbours are quite comfortable with the cameras as it also helps with their security.

The images are stored securely and only accessed if there is a need to be viewed.

Public Areas Are Fair Game​

Is it illegal to take a picture of someone without permission? Generally, you can take any photos you want of people when they are in a public location, like a park, a beach or a city square. It's perfectly legal since they have elected to place themselves in a public location and have no reasonable expectation of privacy. If you snap a hundred pictures of people at a political rally, a marathon or a rock concert in the park, all is well and good.
People in public places have no reasonable expectation of privacy, including where they go, who they go with and what they do while there. For example, if you photograph a couple kissing on the beach and publish the photo in the newspaper, they cannot complain. They have no claim against you even if one of the two happens to be married to someone else and the marriage ends because of the photo.
https://legalbeagle.com/8581945-illegal-pictures-people-permission.html
https://legalbeagle.com/8581945-illegal-pictures-people-permission.html
Likewise, if you take photos of someone shooting up drugs, wearing a bathing suit three sizes too small, falling down drunk or smacking their baby, you are within your rights. The exception is when the person being photographed is in some particular part of the public space where he has a reasonable expectation of privacy.

Privacy Expectations​

In some places, even though they are public, most people expect to have privacy. If these expectations are deemed reasonable by the courts, you cannot photograph other people in these spots. People have been found to have reasonable expectations of privacy in places like public bathrooms, changing lockers at the pool and fitting rooms at clothing stores.
And people almost always have a reasonable expectation of privacy when they are at home with their families. That means that you can't take pictures of people inside their own home without their permission. The rule applies even if you are standing on a public sidewalk looking through a window and using a telephoto lens. This kind of photo violates their rights.

It is illegal to record images of people who are not on your premises which includes your front garden but not the street. That is the regulations. When police appeal for images they do mean if the intruder has been an "intruder" this means the street do not come into that category until they pass the threshold. The critical part to avoid is the face of the person so it is possible to record images of legs, say.

 

[Brody]

Be aware that you are not allowed to record images of passers by on the footpath or street. They must be fully on your property to be legal

I've had the police round to view my CCTV about 3/4 times over the years. We have 3 cameras on the front alone covering a wide area.

Never once have they said a thing about the coverage and it has helped their investigations, especially when I've provided number plates and clear pictures of cars/people.

 

[kmacdon]

We have a tracker locate fitted works even if MH is inside a container . They are well advertised and extremely popular with high value plant and machinery , they post a lot of info on LinkedIn about recovery success. I also put a disklok on feel safer now.

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[poisondwarf]

It is illegal to record images of people who are not on your premises which includes your front garden but not the street. That is the regulations. When police appeal for images they do mean if the intruder has been an "intruder" this means the street do not come into that category until they pass the threshold. The critical part to avoid is the face of the person so it is possible to record images of legs, say.

I don't see how that can be correct.
You only have to look at Police Interceptors ....or any other factual law enforcement programme. The people who are blurred out are few and far between

 

[LesW]

Reading this thread it seems that some would have me believe that my dashcam may be illegally recording the general public, is this so?

 

[Phill D]

Reading this thread it seems that some would have me believe that my dashcam may be illegally recording the general public, is this so?

Not in the uk, but is illegal in some countries of Europe

 

[VXman]

Lock the doors but leave a window open then wave your hands around inside the cab and the alarm should activate if it has motion sensors .

I tested mine at 2am parked next to another motorhome once. Locked the doors. setting the alarm (but forgetting to disable the motion sensor) and 1 minute later panic as the alarm pierced the quiet of the night!

 

[Borsuk]

Had it both with my van and my sons motorbike, both occasions they were very polite and never returned after we said no.

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[RayD]

Fortunately we are due to be away in it this weekend, then it’s at the workshop for a few days getting some bits done.

We’re planning on getting a wheel lock and looking at tracker options at the NEC show in Feb.

Recently talked to a foreman at motorhome insurance approved repairer. He explained that every stolen motorhome that they receive has been trashed inside, panels broken, etc. as the SCUM were looking for a tracker. His advice was don’t buy a tracker! but use the money to prevent the SCUM taking your motorhome in the first place. Cab deadlocks, hab door lock system, steering wheel lock, wheel clamp, disk lock for drivers seat, etc. etc.
If ours gets stolen we don’t want it back. Thanks.

 

[Tony50]

It’s a common misunderstanding.
Out in public you’re fair game. Private property you’re not.

You are correct, and my son has a perfect image of this " lovely Woman Traveller" who walked passed 6 properties where these dregs were parked and asked for hot water , he's keeping the camera image in case she returns , as they sometimes months later !!