Do you drive with Full Water Tanks?

[Theonlysue]

They are so desperate to get to the 3.5t limit.recently hymer included 1 aluminium gas bottle. I would have thought as you need water to use the moho they should be including 20 litres at least, as without water not fit for purpose.

 

[Jim]

I can confirm filling up the water tank and driving a Carado is not a good idea, unless you like the sensation of driving a boat.......

I always need to be full so If it was that bad, I'd either sell the van or fit a decent baffled tank, they are not that expensive and you can get them in most any size and shape you want

 

[DuxDeluxe]

They are so desperate to get to the 3.5t limit.recently hymer included 1 aluminium gas bottle. I would have thought as you need water to use the moho they should be including 20 litres at least, as without water not fit for purpose.

So glad that mine has a one tonne payload

 

[two]

You guys who travel completely empty, why not bin your tank altogether and carry an aquaroll to fill up when you're onsite just like a caravan, or maybe just buy a caravan.

Have you forgotten? If you have an Aquaroll, it's going to run empty in the middle of a shower and vile outside.
(After dark, cold, wet, ...)
If you fill up on site I don't think you can be done for being overweight and you're fine for two or three days.

 

[Jim]

My fresh water tank is 50 Gallons

Mine is 55 gallons (US) so well over 200L

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[Jim]

Have you forgotten? If you have an Aquaroll, it's going to run empty in the middle of a shower and vile outside.
(After dark, cold, wet, ...)
If you fill up on site I don't think you can be done for being overweight and you're fine for two or three days.

Ive seen tuggers with two aquarolls with an auto switchover. That's 80L. . go for it

 

[two]

I always need to be full so If it was that bad, I'd either sell the van or fit a decent baffled tank, they are not that expensive and you can get them in most any size and shape you want

Spot on.
The tank design and location may influence the 'impact' of water sloshing about. If it is above the floor or across the vehicle there could be a significant weight shift. I had over 250l when I had a liner, but that was in two tanks, with baffles.

 

[gpat]

Point taken but just pointing out that life is really too short to worry about these things

Mine is 55 gallons (US) so well over 200L

You must be very proud

 

[eddie]

Mine is 55 gallons (US) so well over 200L

Are you as scared as me?

 

[jessthedog]

You must be very proud

I think hes baffled

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[eddie]

Funny how these "safety" issues have only come to light on smaller lighter motorhomes designed for people that can't drive

And manufacturers never had a problem with water capacity on their vans, for the last few decades, only now are they saying 20% capacity when travelling!! and stranger still is that its only the vans that have no viable payload, that travelling with "more" than 20% is an issue

Strange that !

 

[sweetie]

You are on form today Eddie but Jim's is bigger than yours.

 

[Jaws]

I wouldn't refuse as I think people are more important that tanks of water. You can't fill up on new people when you get to where you are going. Apart from maybe the middle of the Sahara desert, water is generally always available wherever there is civilisation!

Ever been to Slovakia and tried to get water up north in the foothills of the Alps and beyond ?
We even had fun and games in Italy once... But apart from graveyards I reckon one of the hardest places to get fresh water was the north of England.. ( don't ask LOL !!!! )
Our tank is 180 litres ( the larger tank was an option for about 2 minutes in 2007 as far as I can work out )
We only use camp sites as a last resort, though I admit we did use sites on a recent trip with the family touring north Wales.. they are just not geared for wilding

 

[AndyVW]

WOW. I have just read through all 10 pages.
What did I get out of it ? Sorry I will not swear.
The same old argument............. trying to skimp at 3500Kgs on equipment wether its water or anything else.
if your bother get a van that can handle more weight.
Oh driving licence an issue ? or is it the medical?
then put your thoughts to the DVLA to change it.

 

[mikeandmary]

Our vehicle is normally kept in storage between trips with full tank of diesel and completely empty water tanks,
(Drained down). We only ever use sites with facilities and fill with fresh water on arrival. I can obviously see the merits of travelling with fresh water if your going off grid though. Each to his own, as they say.

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[funflair]

Mine is 55 gallons (US) so well over 200L

ours is 80 gallons, 360 litres,

 

[pandas]

Mine is 55 gallons (US) so well over 200L

Size isn’t everything. Very sensitive subject for some reason - anyhow no lack of water in Norfolk this week. Plenty to go round.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

I think hes baffled

TAxi for Jessthedog

 

[DuxDeluxe]

ours is 80 gallons, 360 litres,

Yes, but my black cat is blacker than your black cat...........

(naval joke)

 

[pandas]

ours is 80 gallons, 360 litres,

At 30,000 litres this tops any American RV figures

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[DuxDeluxe]

At 30,000 litres this tops any American RV figures
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I think that was the stokers mess water cooler on the HMS Massive

 

[Northernraider]

It is the same as the idiots that decided it was easier to shut down the habitation electrics to get around EMC testing, and conned British motorhome buyers that it was in their interest not to be able to flush the toilet or watch TV when the engine is running!

Only the British don't actually want anything to work when the engine is running, no other Country in the World do this bodge, yet we still get people trying to justify this to us as "its the right way to do it"

Another manufacturers bodge!

The British are famously easy to be fooled in to thinking something is for the best

 

[cmcardle75]

No it is nothing to do with design or build quality
Whatever you think, 100kg does affect stability. It may be by a small amount and it does not necessarily make it unsafe. However there are some unescapable laws of physics that you seem to have over looked

A van with 100kg less will;

Be more stable
Stop in a shorter distance
Accelerate more rapidly
Use less fuel
Climb hills better
Wear its brakes out more slowly

All of these things apply proportionally to the weight of the vehicle and they are physical facts. Its all relative of course and we have to live with weight (otherwise we wouldn't have a van at all would we) but some weight is more optional that other weight.

I'd remove the "stop in a shorter distance", especially coupled with "all of these things apply proportionally to the weight of the vehicle". There might be a slight change in stopping distances, but it will be very slight and certainly nowhere near in proportion to the weight change. Again with the "use less fuel". In this case, it definitely will use less fuel, but nowhere near in proportion to the weight difference.

 

[Coolcats]

No it is nothing to do with design or build quality
Whatever you think, 100kg does affect stability. It may be by a small amount and it does not necessarily make it unsafe. However there are some unescapable laws of physics that you seem to have over looked

A van with 100kg less will;

Be more stable
Stop in a shorter distance
Accelerate more rapidly
Use less fuel
Climb hills better
Wear its brakes out more slowly

All of these things apply proportionally to the weight of the vehicle and they are physical facts. Its all relative of course and we have to live with weight (otherwise we wouldn't have a van at all would we) but some weight is more optional that other weight.

Spot on and unless I am off on a long journey 1/2 a tank of fuel helps as well,

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Spot on and unless I am off on a long journey 1/2 a tank of fuel helps as well,

As I said, they should limit the fuel capacity to 20% maximum....... I wonder why they put a 110litre fuel tank on my van if too much fuel is dangerous

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[Northernraider]

As I said, they should limit the fuel capacity to 20% maximum....... I wonder why they put a 110litre fuel tank on my van if too much fuel is dangerous

Yes and any lorries delivering barrels of oil etc ....totally dangerous.

All fluids in containers should be banned

 

[Richard n Ann]

Back in the 90's my boss loaded a combo van up with AC equipment for me to drive to Scotland to install. How he got it all in is a miracle, everything unboxed and loaded up to the ceiling . I said flippin heck Simon, is that legal? He said you'll be fine mate, just have a dump before you set off I often think of it if the van's getting heavy.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Yes and any lorries delivering barrels of oil etc ....totally dangerous.

All fluids in containers should be banned

....and oil tankers at sea.....

 

[Northernraider]

....and oil tankers at sea.....

Oh yes definitely those ...don't want all that oil sloshing about

I wonder if they go slower up hills when full

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Oh yes definitely those ...don't want all that oil sloshing about

I wonder if they go slower up hills when full

Oh yes..... always much slower when heading north (or south!)

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