Diesel heating verses gas heating

Depending on the glow plug setting can be 80-90-100w plus the fan. My plug is on 90w setting, plus the fan speeding up on start up, it draws about 100-110w increasing to max 135w. At 13,2v that’s about 10,2A. The heater original harness comes in 2,5mm2 for the main feed. To that point is fed by 4mm2 with 15A fuse.
With a 0,5mm I think it will fail to start due to low voltage.
Thanks Raul, I had a feeling it would be of that order! orange 0.5mm no chance!
mike
 
I intended to fit both. A Propex gas heater and a Chinese diesel heater.

Figured this would be good in case of one developing a fault.

Not gotten around to fitting the diesel heater though, although it is here ready.
Only one thing with propex, does not modulate it’s on full speed on and off. Go for the digital controller.
 
Only one thing with propex, does not modulate it’s on full speed on and off. Go for the digital controller.
We have the digital control panel - works great (y)
Also the stealth kit, so nice and quiet :giggle:
 
Why’s a stealth kit? If you don’t mind. I wanted to change to acoustic ducting, but, they only do it in 60mm for the 2000 models. The 2800 takes 75-80mm ducting.
 
Why’s a stealth kit? If you don’t mind. I wanted to change to acoustic ducting, but, they only do it in 60mm for the 2000 models. The 2800 takes 75-80mm ducting.
Think it was just the acoustic ducting and a silencer. We have the 2k.

Edit: This is the kit:

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Diesel heaters use more than double the amount of 12v battery energy compared to the gas equivalent. Then there is more noise and smell, especially for adjacent campers. It's a similar argument for compressor fridges v 3 way gas jobs. If you don't camp off grid then fill yer boots. If you do then lots of battery and solar.
 
I cannot understand why Motor home heating is mainly Lpg and not Diesel on Uk vehicles what with some Lpg stations closing obviously due to poor demand , when I spoke to Autosleeprs about giving a Diesel option they said they had no plans to do so, part of their group Marquis are rumoured to supply Lpg from 13 sites , put that against over 8000 filling stations in the Uk I think Manufactures need to rethink their strategy, we found Diesel or electric heating meant the gas bottles lasted 2months in Spain and still had plenty of Lpg left in the second bottle.
I would be interested in your thoughts ,not just because you may have only Lpg or Diesel heating
I have a 1995 Hymer B544 which I imported in 2000 - it came with an LPG blown air heating and hot water system. In 2000 very good although the fan was quite audible and kept the van warm. Eventually spare parts became unobtainable, so bought an Ebersbacher online (complete, recovered from a totalled motorhome), and retrofitted this into the existing gas heating ducting such that the hot air not only exits existing heating ducts but also blows through the hot water tank ducting and heats that also! The ebersbacher is much more efficient than the original and very toasty! As noted elsewhere, it does need a clean every 2 or 3 years otherwise it smokes a bit on liftoff, but only for a short period till it comes fully on line. If I ever change the van - which I don’t intend to - it would have to be a wet diesel system!
 
Diesel heaters use more than double the amount of 12v battery energy compared to the gas equivalent. Then there is more noise and smell, especially for adjacent campers. It's a similar argument for compressor fridges v 3 way gas jobs. If you don't camp off grid then fill yer boots. If you do then lots of battery and solar.
So you like them then, haha
 
I fitted our chinese diesel heater to provide an alternative source when at home. We can make as much noise and smell as we want when parked up in our garden but I would never use the diesel heater when touring or on a site due to noise and fumes upsetting neighbours.
 
I personal would not be with out a diesel heater just the job for winter camping
keeps the camper nice and warm that’s for sure

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If using sites surely a 240 fan heater would be used, a diesel heater is for those that wild camp . No point paying for diesel when on a site.
 
If using sites surely a 240 fan heater would be used, a diesel heater is for those that wild camp . No point paying for diesel when on a site.
I think site owners will soon be limiting ehu usage given the costs of leccy

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Anyone fit a diesel heater in a A Class motorhome ?
On my A class I had a great deal of space under the floor were the step would have been if it was a chassis cab, so effectively it’s fully enclosed from the elements but easy to service with a few floor panel removed,
I have used both inlet and exhaust silencing with the proper flexible mount for the pump so noise isn’t a problem, really pleased with the results,
 
If you regularly camp in the middle of winter or in the snow at ski resorts, then I'd look at Diesel.
Otherwise I'd go with LPG.

Whilst LPG may not be available in every UK garage, it's available in enough that you really don't need to worry, you just fill up en-route, many of the larger supermarket filling stations stock LPG.
On mainland Europe most main suppliers garages stock LPG.

Diesel is smelly, noisy, and means you don't want to park near anyone.

A VW camper with a diesel heater parked next to us in February a few years back.
They had the heater running through the night (it was below zero)
Every 20 mins or so the heater would backfire with a very loud bang.
The occupants claim they slept through it, I've no idea how, as to us it sounded like someone had fired a shotgun off inside our van at 2am, 2.20am, 2.40am etc.
 
Did you mention it to the campsite owners, they might have offered one of you a different pitch
 
I was in Glencoe village couple of years ago. Our first year of motorhoming. Inexperienced and finding our feet. On a pitch overlooking the loch, needed the top up. At 5-5,30am a mister Peter knocked on our door because he can’t sleep due to our heater noise. The gas propex kicked in few times that frosty morning. I was so upset i drove of towards Fort William in the dark and had breakfast on a lay-by towards Skye. I have changed the propex exhaust since then, still not as quiet as our diesel heater. Unless you are close to the back of the van, you will not even know it’s on, I have to check with hand over exhaust if I turned it of when I forget. If you read this mister Peter shame on you.

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If you regularly camp in the middle of winter or in the snow at ski resorts, then I'd look at Diesel.
Otherwise I'd go with LPG.

Whilst LPG may not be available in every UK garage, it's available in enough that you really don't need to worry, you just fill up en-route, many of the larger supermarket filling stations stock LPG.
On mainland Europe most main suppliers garages stock LPG.

Diesel is smelly, noisy, and means you don't want to park near anyone.

A VW camper with a diesel heater parked next to us in February a few years back.
They had the heater running through the night (it was below zero)
Every 20 mins or so the heater would backfire with a very loud bang.
The occupants claim they slept through it, I've no idea how, as to us it sounded like someone had fired a shotgun off inside our van at 2am, 2.20am, 2.40am etc.

The Diesel Truma one we had on our Chausson wasn't smelly ( we never had a complaint) when in use apart from first startup for a few seconds .
 
Did you mention it to the campsite owners, they might have offered one of you a different pitch
It was a small CL,

A move of 20m to the other end in the early hours of the morning was not going to make much difference
 
It was a small CL,

A move of 20m to the other end in the early hours of the morning was not going to make much difference
Are you sure it wasn't a Smell CL ! 😀
 
I've got a cdh and a propex gas/electric.

Mainly use the cdh running on kero, and for £83 got a spare one to keep on board to swap out if it fails.

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Diesel heater on my chanson brilliant slightly on start-up but boy doesitdo the job and I can never see that I have used any diesel
 
All those bits come as standard with the £90 Chinese diesel heater kits but not sure they add much stealth tbh.
I found that most of the noise was coming from the pump and from the air intake. Both easily cured by suspending the pump on a rubber exhaust hanger and wrapping in foam. Also, drilling more holes around the filter for the air intake - this allowed more air through stopping that induction howl . I also wrapped the exhaust pipe in 'bandage' . Noise went down from 68dB to 58Db outside the van and 52dB to 48dB inside the van, which is just less than my Truma.
 

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