Devon & Cornwall

We are fortunate enough to live in Cornwall, we avoid July & August at the best of times let alone in the current situation.

Us too, we are off to Dorset in a couple of weeks, yes I know, it is another tourist hotspot, but it is a change of scenery 😁. We love Cornwall, but mid-summer can be a bit trying at times, particularly if trying to get from one end of the county to the other!
 
Prices have risen a bit;

ÂŁ18 per night, with EHU.

Do you know it?

Huge field, currently just five pitches used, request to use your own facilities but toilet and shower block is open and spotless.

EHU Pitches also have a water tap.

https://www.littleshelfinfarmcamping.co.uk/
No passed a field just beyond Mullacott Cross offering ÂŁ10 per night, saw a Morello in there a few weeks ago
 
We have a site just outside Sidmouth and at the moment have MH spaces but as we approach mid July EHU runs out and getting more than 2-3 nights on the same pitch is unlikely.

Sidmouth Folk Week (29/7 - 6/8) a sell out with only a few non elec pitches left and it is going to be almost impossible to get into any of the pubs/restaurants without a booking. Normally there are festival busses serving the campsites - but not this year! Walk or public services that will be busy and not that regular! There are taxis but again pre-booking essential.

Also a different demographic will be camping that normally hit the beaches abroad! We are bracing ourselves…..

As some have said, September could be the best month especially if we have an Indian summer.

I will not be going anywhere now until September as I will be a tad busy!

Good luck all with whatever you do.
 
No passed a field just beyond Mullacott Cross offering ÂŁ10 per night, saw a Morello in there a few weeks ago

Yes, I've seen that but not investigated.

Just, a better the devil you know...

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We passed it the other day - was it called Lazy Buzzard campsite, or something like that?
 
We live close to Falmouth but will be giving it a miss for now.
Covid rate UK around 150 per 100,000, Falmouth just gone through the roof in the last few days now 686 per 100,000 according to the BBC.
Mostly young people I believe.
 
We came down to Newton Abbot yesterday. 3hr delay on the M5 from junction 21 -25. We have a beautiful country to explore but we don't have the infrastructure to cope with en masse travel of the scale 'Staycations' bring.

We live off J21 of the M5.

I know some people have no choice, but unless you can travel overnight past our junction then it doesn’t take much to create havoc from Thursday through to Monday.

Bank Holidays we don’t even try to go anywhere. 🤷‍♂️
 
does seem that so many only travel on motorways . be it here or abroad, have an adventure and use the old roads etc.
mind in cornwall you have no choice ,there is no motorways .
just dont be in a rush, enjoy the journey.
 
Good move C57, we will make you most welcome. You may be interested the tallest sailing ship in the World (Golden Horizon) will be in Fowey on 04th and 10th July and Falmouth on 03rd and 09th. Both places are worth a look if you haven't been before. Any help needed just shout!
Looks like Golden Horizon visit may be cancelled due operational reasons

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does seem that so many only travel on motorways . be it here or abroad, have an adventure and use the old roads etc.
mind in cornwall you have no choice ,there is no motorways .
just dont be in a rush, enjoy the journey.
We’ve toured Europe on motorcycles for years, avoiding motorways as best we can. However, looking at the road system around the South West your options are pretty slim. (y)
 
Trip to Cornwall starts today, short hop (110 miles) down to Tewksbury CAMC today , couple of nights visiting family in Cheltenham for weekend
 
We live close to Falmouth but will be giving it a miss for now.
Covid rate UK around 150 per 100,000, Falmouth just gone through the roof in the last few days now 686 per 100,000 according to the BBC.
Mostly young people I believe.




At the Penryn Uni Campus too, am not going anywhere near U1 U2 OR U3 for a while.:Eeek::doh:
 
Us too, we are off to Dorset in a couple of weeks, yes I know, it is another tourist hotspot, but it is a change of scenery 😁. We love Cornwall, but mid-summer can be a bit trying at times, particularly if trying to get from one end of the county to the other!
We’re going to Dorset in August and to be honest I’m not looking forward to it. I don’t like going South as it’s far to busy traffic, people, tourism wise for what I prefer. I have been talked into this as family are going and our presence is required.

I do think that after a couple of weeks around Scotland, Harris and Lewis where I was mostly the only person on the miles long beaches. The South coast beaches will be a bit of a culture shock.

If you could post anything that is of interest about your trip it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
 
Just returned from Newton Abbot (literally!) The drive home to Harrogate today was easy enough, traffic was heavy but free flowing with no congestion around Exeter due to the show. We left Dornafield at 0915 and were on the driveway at 1520.
 
Just returned from Newton Abbot (literally!) The drive home to Harrogate today was easy enough, traffic was heavy but free flowing with no congestion around Exeter due to the show. We left Dornafield at 0915 and were on the driveway at 1520.
I’d say that was exceptional!
 
I’d say that was exceptional!
I was surprised, we had no hold ups & 70mph all the way, only stopping for fuel at Hopwood on the M42.

The new Ford and their new chassis make for an easy, stable, comfortable & relaxed drive. The full auto box is very responsive and both of the Ecoblue engines are powerful with a huge amount of torque right through the gears. 70 equates to 2000 rpm and it's quieter at speed than Fiats new range of Euro 6 engines.
My sister & husband were camping on the same site, they left at 0945 and were home in Knowsley at 1515, they have a 1.5 - 5 speed Vitara and a 350L roof box... and they need to stop more often due to having a 6 month old dog.
 
Leg 2 of the Cornwall trip, arrived at Carlyon Bay campsite near St Austell

Rain horrible and incessant, so settled with a beer and tennis on the telly…forecast better for tomerrow, EDEN project with a timed/ booked entry for tomorrow 👍

NO TRAFFIC TO SPEAK OF ON M5 or A30

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Every journey we make starts and ends with this road, (little other choice) technically the speed limit is 60mph but that's a bit quick for blackberrying. 2021-06-28 10.22.57.jpg
 
Leg 2 of the Cornwall trip, arrived at Carlyon Bay campsite near St Austell

Rain horrible and incessant, so settled with a beer and tennis on the telly…forecast better for tomerrow, EDEN project with a timed/ booked entry for tomorrow 👍

NO TRAFFIC TO SPEAK OF ON M5 or A30
Yep, welcome to Cornwall! We live about mile and half away. Rain, mist and the occasional sun tis the usual weather!
If you like walking, take the coastal path to Charlestown which has some fabulous coastal scenery. Pierhouse Hotel, grab a pint of Korev, ( the Cornish language term for beer), quite a nice lager.

We were in the New Forest last week, came home, no problems with traffic! Tamar bridge way, they are resurfacing the 2 outer lanes that's causing delays.


Enjoy Eden!
 
Left Carlyon Bay yesterday, now on Cheesewring CS, Bodmin Moor. Sitting in van watching rain falling not warm either.
 
12 Surefire ways to annoy the Cornish

Cornwall’s reputation as a friendly, welcoming place isn’t without its merit.

After all, if you were to go on public transport in a city such as London, even so much as a glance in the direction of another passenger on the tube is likely to be met with no response.

Yet in Cornwall, you’re not likely to get past the bus stop without striking up a conversation with a local before having a full-blown chat putting the world to rights with subjects ranging from the weather to the potholes in the roads.

You’ll also find that when in Cornwall and something goes wrong, you won’t find yourselves short of a helping hand - the Cornish are very good at looking out for others.

things to make the Cornish tut.

We’re especially fussy when it comes to food but contrary to opinion, stargazy pie (a pie with the fish’s head popping out of it) isn’t as widespread a dinner time fare as you might think.

So with that in mind, what is it about the cream that makes the Cornish scream? What makes a Cornish condemn it as “bleddy emmet”?

Bad driving

The Cornish don’t like their maniacs. Barely a summer goes by when social media isn’t littered with memes and pictures of incidents on back roads where the ‘rules of the road’ aren't respected.

While coming from a city to the country might be a world away in terms of roads - and the same applies when the Cornish go to the city (Ask a Cornish person about driving to Plymouth) the simple thing to do on the back road is be prepared to reverse, be prepared to go against the hedge and don’t try and outwit a tractor.

Openly praise Ginsters


These are Cornish pasties.

These are Cornish pasties.
We’re sure Ginsters, cheap supermarket pasties in the chilled aisle and Greggs have their place somewhere. Although we’re not sure where. Openly praising Ginsters in Cornwall is very much a no-no and there’s nothing that unites the Cornish more than hissing at what they see as an “un-proper” pasty. So, whatever you do, don’t praise a Ginsters.

Our idea of a Cornish pasty are ones you can get from a vast range of places from Barnecutts in North Cornwall to Philps in West Cornwall, Helluva Pasty and much more. Basically, if it’s something you can’t find in a service station or a supermarket, it’s more likely to be acceptable.

Mispronounce place names

Legend has it that the Cornish named their places with the sole intention of confusing the invading armies that have all tried to have a slice of Cornwall in times gone by.

That might not be true, however, the Cornish do find some of the attempts entertaining. Polzeath is Pole-Zeff, not Pole-Zeef, Praze-an-Beeble is Praise-an-Bee-ball, not Praaz-an-Beb-le and Cocks is pronounced while sniggering.


Make scones incorrectly

It’s Jam first. Paul Weller knows it, The Queen knows it and Dawn French certainly knows it and so do the Cornish. We’re not sure about Gordon Ramsay but if he ever tells us how it’s made, we’ll be sure to write a story about it. Making scones any other way is not only incorrect, it’s a crime considered on a level of blasphemy in some parts.

Once the scone is apart, you put in jam first then cream. That’s the Cornish method - better known as the correct method. Every other way is incorrect.

Tell us you prefer Devon


The Tamar bridge. Bridging the gap between Cornwall and Devon.

The Tamar bridge. Bridging the gap between Cornwall and Devon. (Image: Red Air Media)
While the days of inter-border scrapping might have passed us by for now at least, telling a Cornish person you prefer Devon is like attacking their elderly grandmother in broad daylight.

The thing with Cornwall and Devon is there’s a bit of a sibling rivalry. Each one tries to lay claim to being better than the others, only Cornwall wins in every way and Devon doesn’t like it.

You may prefer Devon, and there may well be Cornish people with a silenced liking for parts of Devon, but it's one of those things you don’t mention. As Devon’s own Basil Fawlty might have said “Don’t mention Devon! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it!”

Try and imitate the accent

No, really. Don’t. We have enough of that from the bi-annual Doc Martin festival of filming in Port Isaac. Chances are you’ll end up sounding more Bristolian than Vicky Pollard or at best like the long-lost Wurzel. It won’t sound Cornish.


Ask us if we’ve met Poldark

We haven’t met Poldark because, well….he’s a fictional character. Although, given the propensity for the name Demelza in the older Cornish generations, if you ask us where we can find Demelza, chances are you’ll be taken to a sweet old lady with a stargazy pie.

Park Badly

We know you want to get to the beach. But there are ways of going about it and clogging up our little country roads with your often big cars or motorhomes and walking the rest of the way is not the way to do it. If you can’t park, try and find another beach. With Cornwall being a peninsula, one thing we’re not short on is beaches.

But please don’t park like that. It means our emergency services can’t get through, means tractors can’t get through (we have a lot of those) and it’s something of a truly inconsiderate menace.

Litter the beaches or open space


Just some of the litter left on North Quay beach in Hayle

Just some of the litter left on North Quay beach in Hayle
Yes, we know that some in Cornwall do the same. But littering our beaches and beautiful spaces is one way to get us with our backs arched like an angry cat.

The message to all who enjoy our beaches and countryside whether local or otherwise - if you can take the full products you buy with you, surely it’s not too big a stretch to take the empty packets home rather than trashing the thing that made you want to visit it in the first place?

And never, ever leave used barbeques.

Assume we’re all farmers

Yes, Cornwall is still quite rural. There are also a lot of absolutely terrific farmers who keep everyone fed and nourished. Indeed, being a farmer is certainly not an insult. But Cornwall isn’t just a place with a lot of farms and Airbnb’s. There’s a lot more that goes on in Cornwall and not everyone is a farmer.

In the same vein, never assume a Cornish person is simple either. Believe us, we’re not!

Complain about the weather


As showers pass a rainbow comes out over the cliffs between Land's End and Sennen.

As showers pass a rainbow comes out over the cliffs between Land's End and Sennen. (Image: Greg Martin / Cornwall Live)
The Cornish LOVE talking about the weather. If you’ve come to Cornwall expecting wall-to-wall sunshine, chances are at some point in the week you’re going to be left disappointed. The rain does love to sneak upon us.

Complain about the weather to a Cornish person and they’ll just tell you “it’s good for the fields” or “good for the garden”. No, really. That’s what happens.

No showing at restaurants

Again, this goes to whoever you are and wherever you’re from. But in the modern, very tourist-friendly Cornwall there’s a lot of hospitality businesses who have been absolutely whacked after nearly 18 months of chaos. If you’ve booked with them, they can’t wait to see you.

But if you’ve changed your mind or can’t make it, please, please cancel your booking. Not every Cornish restaurant is owned by Rick Stein or a millionaire chef. Many are run by local families or people who really could do without the losses right now.

Not showing at a restaurant is one thing that REALLY annoys the Cornish at the moment.
 
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Those who are heading north and south along the M5/M42 corridor be aware that diesel prices have gone through the roof. Some are charging ÂŁ1.59.9 a litre, average is around ÂŁ1.56.

Hopwood on the M42 is the cheapest I've seen at ÂŁ1.36 and Moto at Frankley M5 north & southbound are trialling prices supposedly only 5p a litre more than local garages.

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Those who are heading north and south along the M5/M42 corridor be aware that diesel prices have gone through the roof. Some are charging ÂŁ1.59.9 a litre, average is around ÂŁ1.56.

Hopwood on the M42 is the cheapest I've seen at ÂŁ1.36 and Moto at Frankley M5 north & southbound are trialling prices supposedly only 5p a litre more than local garages.
ASDA at Cribbs Causeway, Bristol was about ÂŁ1.26 from memory on Monday 28th June 2021 but I agree that Motorway Service stations are horrendous and would never fill up at one if at all possible!
 
12 Surefire ways to annoy the Cornish

Cornwall’s reputation as a friendly, welcoming place isn’t without its merit.

After all, if you were to go on public transport in a city such as London, even so much as a glance in the direction of another passenger on the tube is likely to be met with no response.

Yet in Cornwall, you’re not likely to get past the bus stop without striking up a conversation with a local before having a full-blown chat putting the world to rights with subjects ranging from the weather to the potholes in the roads.

You’ll also find that when in Cornwall and something goes wrong, you won’t find yourselves short of a helping hand - the Cornish are very good at looking out for others.

things to make the Cornish tut.

We’re especially fussy when it comes to food but contrary to opinion, stargazy pie (a pie with the fish’s head popping out of it) isn’t as widespread a dinner time fare as you might think.

So with that in mind, what is it about the cream that makes the Cornish scream? What makes a Cornish condemn it as “bleddy emmet”?

Bad driving

The Cornish don’t like their maniacs. Barely a summer goes by when social media isn’t littered with memes and pictures of incidents on back roads where the ‘rules of the road’ aren't respected.

While coming from a city to the country might be a world away in terms of roads - and the same applies when the Cornish go to the city (Ask a Cornish person about driving to Plymouth) the simple thing to do on the back road is be prepared to reverse, be prepared to go against the hedge and don’t try and outwit a tractor.

Openly praise Ginsters


These are Cornish pasties.

These are Cornish pasties.
We’re sure Ginsters, cheap supermarket pasties in the chilled aisle and Greggs have their place somewhere. Although we’re not sure where. Openly praising Ginsters in Cornwall is very much a no-no and there’s nothing that unites the Cornish more than hissing at what they see as an “un-proper” pasty. So, whatever you do, don’t praise a Ginsters.

Our idea of a Cornish pasty are ones you can get from a vast range of places from Barnecutts in North Cornwall to Philps in West Cornwall, Helluva Pasty and much more. Basically, if it’s something you can’t find in a service station or a supermarket, it’s more likely to be acceptable.

Mispronounce place names

Legend has it that the Cornish named their places with the sole intention of confusing the invading armies that have all tried to have a slice of Cornwall in times gone by.

That might not be true, however, the Cornish do find some of the attempts entertaining. Polzeath is Pole-Zeff, not Pole-Zeef, Praze-an-Beeble is Praise-an-Bee-ball, not Praaz-an-Beb-le and Cocks is pronounced while sniggering.


Make scones incorrectly

It’s Jam first. Paul Weller knows it, The Queen knows it and Dawn French certainly knows it and so do the Cornish. We’re not sure about Gordon Ramsay but if he ever tells us how it’s made, we’ll be sure to write a story about it. Making scones any other way is not only incorrect, it’s a crime considered on a level of blasphemy in some parts.

Once the scone is apart, you put in jam first then cream. That’s the Cornish method - better known as the correct method. Every other way is incorrect.

Tell us you prefer Devon


The Tamar bridge. Bridging the gap between Cornwall and Devon.

The Tamar bridge. Bridging the gap between Cornwall and Devon. (Image: Red Air Media)
While the days of inter-border scrapping might have passed us by for now at least, telling a Cornish person you prefer Devon is like attacking their elderly grandmother in broad daylight.

The thing with Cornwall and Devon is there’s a bit of a sibling rivalry. Each one tries to lay claim to being better than the others, only Cornwall wins in every way and Devon doesn’t like it.

You may prefer Devon, and there may well be Cornish people with a silenced liking for parts of Devon, but it's one of those things you don’t mention. As Devon’s own Basil Fawlty might have said “Don’t mention Devon! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it!”

Try and imitate the accent

No, really. Don’t. We have enough of that from the bi-annual Doc Martin festival of filming in Port Isaac. Chances are you’ll end up sounding more Bristolian than Vicky Pollard or at best like the long-lost Wurzel. It won’t sound Cornish.


Ask us if we’ve met Poldark

We haven’t met Poldark because, well….he’s a fictional character. Although, given the propensity for the name Demelza in the older Cornish generations, if you ask us where we can find Demelza, chances are you’ll be taken to a sweet old lady with a stargazy pie.

Park Badly

We know you want to get to the beach. But there are ways of going about it and clogging up our little country roads with your often big cars or motorhomes and walking the rest of the way is not the way to do it. If you can’t park, try and find another beach. With Cornwall being a peninsula, one thing we’re not short on is beaches.

But please don’t park like that. It means our emergency services can’t get through, means tractors can’t get through (we have a lot of those) and it’s something of a truly inconsiderate menace.

Litter the beaches or open space


Just some of the litter left on North Quay beach in Hayle

Just some of the litter left on North Quay beach in Hayle
Yes, we know that some in Cornwall do the same. But littering our beaches and beautiful spaces is one way to get us with our backs arched like an angry cat.

The message to all who enjoy our beaches and countryside whether local or otherwise - if you can take the full products you buy with you, surely it’s not too big a stretch to take the empty packets home rather than trashing the thing that made you want to visit it in the first place?

And never, ever leave used barbeques.

Assume we’re all farmers

Yes, Cornwall is still quite rural. There are also a lot of absolutely terrific farmers who keep everyone fed and nourished. Indeed, being a farmer is certainly not an insult. But Cornwall isn’t just a place with a lot of farms and Airbnb’s. There’s a lot more that goes on in Cornwall and not everyone is a farmer.

In the same vein, never assume a Cornish person is simple either. Believe us, we’re not!

Complain about the weather


As showers pass a rainbow comes out over the cliffs between Land's End and Sennen.'s End and Sennen.

As showers pass a rainbow comes out over the cliffs between Land's End and Sennen. (Image: Greg Martin / Cornwall Live)
The Cornish LOVE talking about the weather. If you’ve come to Cornwall expecting wall-to-wall sunshine, chances are at some point in the week you’re going to be left disappointed. The rain does love to sneak upon us.

Complain about the weather to a Cornish person and they’ll just tell you “it’s good for the fields” or “good for the garden”. No, really. That’s what happens.

No showing at restaurants

Again, this goes to whoever you are and wherever you’re from. But in the modern, very tourist-friendly Cornwall there’s a lot of hospitality businesses who have been absolutely whacked after nearly 18 months of chaos. If you’ve booked with them, they can’t wait to see you.

But if you’ve changed your mind or can’t make it, please, please cancel your booking. Not every Cornish restaurant is owned by Rick Stein or a millionaire chef. Many are run by local families or people who really could do without the losses right now.

Not showing at a restaurant is one thing that REALLY annoys the Cornish at the moment.
But who owns the bridge? I didn’t have to pay to get into Cornwall, but if I wanted to get out I had too. ;)
 
But who owns the bridge? I didn’t have to pay to get into Cornwall, but if I wanted to get out I had too. ;)
My own personal opinion is that the fact that bridge tolls have to be paid is disgusting. Tolls over the Severn Bridges were abolished a few years ago. The bridge is owned by both Plymouth City and Cornwall County Council.
 
My own personal opinion is that the fact that bridge tolls have to be paid is disgusting. Tolls over the Severn Bridges were abolished a few years ago. The bridge is owned by both Plymouth City and Cornwall County Council.
not sure if that falls into the 'woke' category that keeps on being referred to?
 
We returned from Devon/Cornwall last week, having been at Newquay area when the G7 summit was on then around to Brixham. We love being down that way having been going for 30 years. The locals are always friendly and welcoming, and we support their economy by buying local, especially sampling a different type of pasty and ice-cream to die for.;):cool:

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