Deadlocks - Yes or No

[Alesupper]

Hi All

I am the proud owner of a Adria Twin 600 which is a Fiat Ducato van based conversion and I am considering getting deadlocks fitted to beef up security. Apart from the negative visual impact that they have are there any other downsides that I need to consider? I realise that it will be quite laborious sometimes walking round your van locking each individual door (4 in my case) but I am more than happy to do that to keep the van and our possessions safe.

One other possible concern I have is rust. I wonder if the area around the deadlocks might be prone to rusting after a few years maybe? Any knowledgeable feedback would be appreciate please.

Secondly, can anyone recommend a reputable deadlock fitter in the northwest of England area (Cumbria, Lancashire, West Yorkshire, Southern Scotland)?

Cheers, Alesupper

 

[POH]

On the windows, fit Lock m outs. For extra security when we are in the motorhome, we have elefant locks, they just slip on.

elephant locks ??

 

[busby]

Heosafe on front doors and exit through habitation door..Easy to fit and good security at night whilst sleeping. Fiamma external lock on habitation door..Anti-shatter clear film fitted to cab door windows,,BUSBY.

 

[Wagoneer]

elephant locks ??

Here you go ....only really suitable for Coachbuilt vans.

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[Gromett]

Can’t see the point of them when the rear windows are plastic.

Thieves are opportunistic cowards usually. They want to make a quick getaway.
If they have to climb in through a window to get at anything they are less likely to risk it.

Don't leave valuables in view and having a deadlock is a good way to prevent thieves even trying.

It also makes it harder for thieves who want to take the entire vehicle as they will have one hell of a job replacing the deadlocks before reselling your van.

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[WynandJean]

Bob Marley wouldn’t be seen dead without his

Every time I see this as I am scrolling I read it as 'dreadlocks'

Wyn

 

[gus-lopez]

the back doors can be secured from inside i had two eye bolts and a rod through them

I've shoot bolts top & bottom inside & milenco's on the outside.

 

[Leltel]

elephant locks ??

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[Leltel]

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This one is the company we purchased ours from:
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[ctc]

We have a dog. She doesn't even like us.

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[Wagoneer]

DIY Elephant lock. Last year I found a small sheet of 2mm thick aluminium in the house garage.

This is the result, works fine:

 

[Trevor Wbm]

The window situation is definitely a weak point which I have somehow overlooked....doh! Deadlocks are great on a work van with no windows but probably not much of a deterrent on a MH/Campervan. I might invest in a good alarm system instead. Thanks.

The points about windows are valid but like all crime prevention the truth is it's about making someone elses property more attractive than yours. Imagine you're a thief - do you go for van A where you can get in and out inconspicuously via the doors, or van B where you have to climb in and out of a window several feet off the ground, after having smashed it or ripped it open?

 

[pjay]

Anyone have an opinion of the Thule sliding side and rear door locks?

Apparently you can get them as a twin pack keyed alike. Thinking of those along with 2 Thule internal cab door locks. I believe Milenco also offer similar packs.

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Pete

 

[DJT]

I've heard of Rhino and they get good reviews

We are up in Cumbria and have used Phil at Rhino for a few years.Excellent service and easy access of the M6.
DJT

 

[NicandJay]

This one is the company we purchased ours from:
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How do I know which version I need? I have 2020 Burtner coachbuilt on a Fiat Ducato base

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[jezport]

Is there a deadlock for the side sliding door that can be locked from inside also?

 

[Emmit]

Our van only has one door. (Burstner i727)
I've fitted it with a Milenco lock that swings through 90 degs. The important bit is that can be operated from the inside.
Only got the windows to worry about???

 

[Wagoneer]

How do I know which version I need? I have 2020 Burtner coachbuilt on a Fiat Ducato base

I must admit, the website is not the easiest to navigate.

Probably best to choose "vehicle models". There are sub categories in alphabetical order A to B, C, D to F etc. Once you've selected your MH manufacturers name, it shows which Elephant device or devices are suitable.

If your MH doesn't appear on the list then:

Measure the spacing between the 2 bolts on your door. My bolt spacing on the hab door is 62mm which confirms that I need an Elephant 2 device (ref E5001).

 

[Leltel]

How do I know which version I need? I have 2020 Burtner coachbuilt on a Fiat Ducato base

I took photos of our locks and sent them in. He then advised which ones I needed

 

[Richard n Ann]

Pity they aren't visible, they will possibly rip half the frame out with the door. I fitted a milenco external arm thing on ours.

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[NicandJay]

I must admit, the website is not the easiest to navigate.

Probably best to choose "vehicle models". There are sub categories in alphabetical order A to B, C, D to F etc. Once you've selected your MH manufacturers name, it shows which Elephant device or devices are suitable.

If your MH doesn't appear on the list then:

Measure the spacing between the 2 bolts on your door. My bolt spacing on the hab door is 62mm which confirms that I need an Elephant 2 device (ref E5001).

So they work for Fiat cab door and Burstner hab doors?

 

[Wagoneer]

So they work for Fiat cab door and Burstner hab doors?

I don't think they're suitable for Fiat cab doors.

 

[NicandJay]

Ok got it now. Yes the one for my model year isntlisted but I think it would fit. Thanks for that. Will bear them in mind...

 

[gus-lopez]

believe Milenco also offer similar packs.

I have milenco's. Easy to fit,do what they say and Work OK.

 

[Grummyb]

On the windows, fit Lock m outs. For extra security when we are in the motorhome, we have elefant locks, they just slip on.

Where the hell do you keep elephants when there not locking the windows

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[Emmit]

So they work for Fiat cab door and Burstner hab doors?

The one I've mentioned is not a deadlock.
It's similar to the Fiamma, the main difference between the two is the Milenco can be applied from the inside.

 

[Leltel]

So they work for Fiat cab door and Burstner hab doors?

Yes they work on Fiat. We have a Le Voyageur on a Fiat cab

 

[Wagoneer]

Yes they work on Fiat. We have a Le Voyageur on a Fiat cab

But your Le Voyageur is an A Class so won't have the standard Fiat door.

 

[Aerialmark]

Here you go ....only really suitable for Coachbuilt vans.

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I have an Elefant 4 fitted on my Renault and its quite effective. As others have said though the windows are the weak point and I would like to find something that could make them a little safer.

 

[fullfat]

No locks just a sawn off under swmbo’s pillow

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[Burgo]

I think if they're clean and you are genuily a Rastafarian then fair enough. Must admit that on some females they can look pretty greasy and unwholesome however.