Daft question >3500kgs in Europe

filopastry said:
Seen numerous French motorhomes and HGV's sporting the "angle mort" stickers. Wonder if following "your advice" you would offer to pay any fines incurred for following such ?
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HGV's. They do actually have blind spots, most MH's do not.

When I'm sat in a Lorry, if you stood directly next to the passenger door or even next to the front panel I wouldnt be able to see you through the window/windscreen. When I turn left I lose sight of the right side of the trailer and vice versa. These are blind spots, the number of MH's that have the same problem is very very small.
 
pj650 said:
As far as I am aware a hi viz jacket is required only for each person or crew member travelling in the vehicle. I certainly won’t be carrying four when there only two of us in the van.
As for glasses, if you need them for driving, your licence will have code 01 in column 12. You are required to carry a spare pair. Makes sense to me.
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From years ago, a sign on the BBC Staff Notice Board: 'Found; 1 pair of glasses'

And underneath someone had added: 'You'll have to write bigger; I've lost my glasses' ... :unsure: :LOL:

Steve
 
Ive been driving fairly frequently in Europe for over 30 years now, I ve never been asked for any of this stuff. The only one I would keep to hand is the Hi vis, because that is obvious if you have to stop on the Autoroute and probably not a bad idea, just don't hang around traffic islands in one :LOL:
 
marchie said:
In Spain you'll need 2 red triangles, and, if you wear specs, you should also have a spare pair with you. In France, the HiVis vests must be accessible from inside the car; most French hang them over the ba ck of the chair [unless you're off to a gilet jaune protest when you roll the Vest up into a towel roll [think swimming pool!] and wedge it in the corner of the dashboard]. And Angles Mort stickers?

Steve
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Yes, our spare specs and yellow jackets live in the cab door pockets.

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jongood said:
HGV's. They do actually have blind spots, most MH's do not.

When I'm sat in a Lorry, if you stood directly next to the passenger door or even next to the front panel I wouldnt be able to see you through the window/windscreen. When I turn left I lose sight of the right side of the trailer and vice versa. These are blind spots, the number of MH's that have the same problem is very very small.
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Plus the same physical dimensioned Motorhome can be 3500kg or 4000kg, it should be done on length which would make far more sense
 
pj650 said:
As far as I am aware a hi viz jacket is required only for each person or crew member travelling in the vehicle. I certainly won’t be carrying four when there only two of us in the van.
As for glasses, if you need them for driving, your licence will have code 01 in column 12. You are required to carry a spare pair. Makes sense to me.
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When you consider how cheap these are and how little space they take - really whats the issue ? The reason to carry is for once common sense and its not like its just a Frenchism I saw jackets in French lidl not that long ago for 3 euro,
 
bobandjanie said:
😉 But my advice is don't stick any on until you see a Frenchman with them. 😁 Bob.
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Well I’ve just traveled form our chalet in the French Alps down to Marseillan in the south of France. I must have past at least six French motorhomes displaying the stickers

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Richard Sale said:
As did the hi vis jackets/patches on motorcycle/scooter riders. Plus changes one way then the other with speed limits
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Well, they are French, and it's this manic inconsistency that makes them so lovable! We had new plumbing installed in what the [English] Estate Agent laughingly described as 'the Barn' of our French hovel and then a new concrete floor laid. I started to screw the 'Rail et Montant' framework into the new floor to build a bathroom, but was worried that I might hit a pipe, so at 12 noon, just as Matthieu, the plumber was about to leave for lunch, I asked him to do a quick 'eyeball' of the line I was proposing to take the screws. It would have taken him 25 seconds at most.

He went into a real strop and then spent almost 5 minutes explaining why he could not help me because hehad to go to lunch and then flounced out, leaving me abandoned. And the little bugger deliberately returned from lunch 5 minutes late!

Steve
 
Just go on each country Govt site and tells you requirements. Toll tags are the biggest headache for me .
 
Main thing you'll need,,,,,,,is a LOT of money for tolls or tags. If over 3.5t.. Austria is a fortune to cross if you use motorways.
Cost me 500 euros on one trip to Hungary.. especially as I got fined 250 for not buying the go box earlier.
we'd tried to buy one at the first service station, but they'ed sold out so went to the next one.
The little hitlers were waiting for me at the Hungary border, even showed me a photo of me entering Austria.

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At home i must have at least 10 pair of specs laying around the house, can i find any when i won't them..........guess.
 
lou020 said:
Main thing you'll need,,,,,,,is a LOT of money for tolls or tags. If over 3.5t.. Austria is a fortune to cross if you use motorways.
Cost me 500 euros on one trip to Hungary to especially as I got fined 250 for not buying the go box earlier.
we'd tried to buy one at the first service station, but they'ed sold out so went to the next one.
The little hitlers were waiting for me at the Hungary border, even showed me a photo of me entering Austria.
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We got pulled year before last going into Austria. Intended to buy after filling up but little man with his machine was on us like a hawk. Saved me faffing about inside anyway. But some just fill up and take the chance and drive off.
 
rosalan said:
Depending on the country, they are not all the same.
Some countries want 2 triangles.
If you wear glasses you must carry a spare pair.
Almost everywhere you need a yellow jacket; each.
Fire extinguisher in some places.
First aid kit in most places.
In France and Germany there are special window stickers required if you wish to visit some cities. (Crit Aire in France) not expensive and one purchase for life.
Not essential anywhere but something to help get out of sand or mud.
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If you are over 3.5 tonnes you need the French stickers warning of blind spots to other people. Applies to ALL vehicles over 3.5 tonnes, there is thread somewhere on the forum
 
bobnick said:
We got pulled year before last going into Austria. Intended to buy after filling up but little man with his machine was on us like a hawk. Saved me faffing about inside anyway. But some just fill up and take the chance and drive off.
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I just avoid the motorway. Switzerland is super easy now with the app.

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Lenny HB said:
Switzerland you have to pay for every day you are in the country on all roads if over 3.5t.
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But it’s cheap and easy !.

Consider the cost Of Tunnel de Frejus at around £62 for one trip. Versus the Gothard tunnel included in your tolls !

Switzerland is £2.92 a day for a motorhome over 3.5t.

compare that to any continental tolls
 
I’ve order the signs it would appear that they will take about 4 weeks to be delivered
I not going to stick them on I going to apply them to magnetic strips for the front of the vehicle .
it should work
cannot do anything but stick them to the back of the vehicle
bit of a pain but is it worth the risk
happy days
 
Boy said:
I’ve order the signs it would appear that they will take about 4 weeks to be delivered
I not going to stick them on I going to apply them to magnetic strips for the front of the vehicle .
it should work
cannot do anything but stick them to the back of the vehicle
bit of a pain but is it worth the risk
happy days
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Have a look on HGV DIRECT website..£11 for 2 magnetic ones. they'll fit on the front doors.... for the rear I was thinking of sticking one to a thin steel plate and fastening to the ladder,,,but think it will be on the wrong side. probably have to stick one on the rear.
 
Angles Morts ..(the bus version ) stickers or magnetic, Note, the position is also controlled. £12 for 3, Ebay arrived in two days.
 
lou020 said:
Main thing you'll need,,,,,,,is a LOT of money for tolls or tags. If over 3.5t.. Austria is a fortune to cross if you use motorways.
Cost me 500 euros on one trip to Hungary.. especially as I got fined 250 for not buying the go box earlier.
we'd tried to buy one at the first service station, but they'ed sold out so went to the next one.
The little hitlers were waiting for me at the Hungary border, even showed me a photo of me entering Austria.
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Same happened to us in Slovenia, 1st border waved us through ( she was on the phone ) 2nd border teeming with cops, who wanted cash !! They got VERY angry when I insisted on paying by card !!
Then one of the cops came over with fistfuls of cash she had collected from all the other cars and stuffed it into a big box on the floor of their van. Nice little earner !
The woman at the 1st border post was obviously in on it and got her cut!
Ba$€%#ds. !! 300 Euros !!
Mitch
 

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