Crash helmets

I must admit to a little wry smile as I was typing in the price :D2 I know a lot of you wouldn't approve :D

It conforms to the latest ECER 22.05 standards for road use. I remember when I took my test one of the questions was when buying a helmet what mark do you look for? The answer at the time was the BS kite mark. I know Britain is abolished now so the ECER 22.05 must be the EUs equivalent.

Anyway that would be the least of my problems if I fell off in Benidorm... I don't think I dare say why :eek: :cool:
 
I use a Caberg full face. Reasonable price, comfortable, but as stated before, its best to try it on before you buy.
Ebay not ideal for helmets but will give you a rough idea of prices.
Phil
 
Seems to me a lot of people go for cheapo bash hats..
If I was to say to those buying cheap, "gimme £90 and I will shoot some arrows at you.. But gimme £300 and the arrows will be made of foam", would you go for the cheapo option ?

Its your head lads.. If yo think it aint worth a lot, fine,,, stay cheap

It aint about price it is about staying alive
 
They used to call them 'skid lids' back in the day and that was for a reason. Hit anything solid, head on, at 90mph and it won't much matter what you are wearing, your brain will turn to soup against the inside of your skull anyway :xsad:

I did a couple of track days last year and because my expensive lids were not adorned with the Gold sticker I had to shell out for a £50 Box one :xsurprised: :rolleyes:

I wore a good one going and coming back and changed into the cheapy for the track LOL. :xgrin:
 
If the helmet meets the required standard then whats the problem , its all very well having a helmet that will withstand the impact of an RPG if your neck will only handle the blow from a marshmallow :)

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Not meaning to upset anyone just my thought's with the experiences I've had & what I take into consideration on a lid, Not keen on flip lid's because of the chance that it can hook on something, Hate helmet Cam's, its asking for it to punch through your lid ( I know cam's have not been mentioned but its a worrying trend ) wouldn't use a none Snell or Sharp tested lid for Racing or Road, I see riding on the road as far more hazardous than racing, an expensive racing lid is probably put on & off about 12 times & may cover 100 miles a weekend, 10 times a year, a road helmet will probably cover loads more miles & on & off more times in its life, I try to find out the pass rate on the rotation test as much as the impact test, not all lids have a very high pass on rotation, which can result in a fatal separation injury. There is other stuff but that's the main bits, But saying all of the above if buying my self I've never paid over 300.00 quid for a lid :xThumb:
 
Like most things, you get what you pay for.
If you have a £45 head buy a £45 helmet. Mine was considerably more expensive. As has been stated make sure it fits correctly. I’ve been to more than one incident where an incorrectly fitting helmet has come off. The casualties did not survive.
 
Grandson luvs his:xwink:
 

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Blue Knight said:
Crickey, £45 for a helmet. I bought my last helmet in the Black Friday sale the other day and got it for £400 instead of £500; a new Shoei Neotec.

I always buy the good stuff as I've dealt with too many serious accidents where cheap kit has not worked well in the owners favour.

I do have to question what you get for £45 in terms of structural performance.

My advice is don't ever crash.

Good luck,:xThumb:

Andrew
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Everything here x10.

Thats £45 RETAIL... in price for that is going to be under £20.

I pay more than that for baseball caps.

I have destroyed many helmets over the years, most of my crashes are sub 50mph , and funnily enough , the faster you crash, the less likely you are you bang you head hard, unless you hit something immovable. My worst 2 have been sub 30mph faceplants, both were not even big offs, just hit the ground real hard. When you have done that once, you dont think twice about good kit.

By all means , buy frugally, pick the crap colour, or the last years model, but buy a proper Brand.. Arai, Shoei, Schuberth , or top of the range Shark. Good rule of thumb , if we dont wear them to race , you dont put them on to go to the shops.

I have been on product launches for helmets that were so monumentally piss poor , that i couldnt sell them with a clear conscience.

I bet you spend more than that on a frying pan.

Regain some credibility by turning it in to a hanging basket , and buy a proper one
 
glenn2926 said:
Like most things, you get what you pay for.
If you have a £45 head buy a £45 helmet. Mine was considerably more expensive. As has been stated make sure it fits correctly. I’ve been to more than one incident where an incorrectly fitting helmet has come off. The casualties did not survive.
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I have turned down free helmets , because some things cannot be free enough. Getting a fitting by a proper trained helmet salesman, is a must. I cant wear Shoei because my head is the wrong shape.

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Enword said:
buying my self I've never paid over 300.00 quid for a lid
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Thats around the figure i have paid or maybe the retail price and have always bought last years model/colour etc

Apparently I have an Arai shape head :) used to wear a Shoei Barros rep helmet but it pinched like hell above my temples.
 
Richard and Ann said:
I think you pay for the name with the top brands, some arai are nearly £1000. Ridiculous.
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I know you are right. They are the ones who pay top riders zillions to market their overpriced helmets. they can get get away with charging dealer £200 trade knowing that the dealer will want an 100% markup - so now you have a £400 helmet on the shelf
As far as I'm concerned the ACU marked hats have met a strict test standard and is probably every bit as good as any other. The best you can say is the more expensive hats may use better materials in the lining but as you are supposed to change them every 5 years I doubt you will ever see the benefit
 
Silver-Fox said:
Thats around the figure i have paid or maybe the retail price and have always bought last years model/colour etc

Apparently I have an Arai shape head :) used to wear a Shoei Barros rep helmet but it pinched like hell above my temples.
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Same for me. Arai were perfect though, had 4 of those, one was a 'money cant buy' rider supplied one, that never got used, so i did a deal with my mate.. its still upstairs somewhere, it was sooo light it was untrue.

I always bought plain white, cheapest helmet by miles , now buying plain is hard work .

I am currently looking for a new helmet myself, although i need to buy them in three's , this is decent for decent money.

https://www.dirtbikexpress.co.uk/he...oh_terminator_2.1_helmet_-_colour_white_pearl

These were £300 ish when launched. I have destroyed one, pretty comprehensively, so can recommend them
 
PhilG said:
I always bought plain white, cheapest helmet by miles , now buying plain is hard work .
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Same as that, the rep or multi coloured has always been at the right price and not premium :)
 
Stealaway said:
I know you are right. They are the ones who pay top riders zillions to market their overpriced helmets. they can get get away with charging dealer £200 trade knowing that the dealer will want an 100% markup - so now you have a £400 helmet on the shelf
As far as I'm concerned the ACU marked hats have met a strict test standard and is probably every bit as good as any other. The best you can say is the more expensive hats may use better materials in the lining but as you are supposed to change them every 5 years I doubt you will ever see the benefit
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The top racer stuff has visors you can change in a pitstop in under 5 seconds, and has venting and noise reduction stuff that is seriously good.. plus they are seriously light, to the point where the paint is micron thick.. even the logo's. Plus the fit, and the replaceability of the parts are second to none, and the Arai ones you can take to service centres to be looked after. I think that is good value. Life saving technology for half the price of an electric bicycle.

You dont need one of those to go to the shops, but neither do any of us need £100k gin places with granite worktops and mood lighting.

As for the linings, i wash them every week, being able to change them when they get funky is worth the extra IMO.

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Well it arrived the other day and I'm pleased with it. The removable lining looks good quality and it's a comfortable fit.

The built-in sun visor could be bigger and darker but I'm not complaining for the price. Five star helmet (y)
 
Richard and Ann said:
Well it arrived the other day and I'm pleased with it. The removable lining looks good quality and it's a comfortable fit.

The built-in sun visor could be bigger and darker but I'm not complaining for the price. Five star helmet (y)
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If it was a bucket or a blender, fair play. At that price , it will be about as much use. My bobble hat is comfortable.

I suggest you visit YouTube to see some helmet testing done... the standard says the helmet 'must withstand a blow of this type' .. makes no mention of the head inside of it. Cheap ABS helmets will pass the test, all day long, however, fatal head injuries are not uncommon, when the helmet appears undamaged , because , like a car bumper, they will pop back into shape. Not a lot of use when its caved your skull in though.
 
PhilG said:
If it was a bucket or a blender, fair play. At that price , it will be about as much use. My bobble hat is comfortable.

I suggest you visit YouTube to see some helmet testing done... the standard says the helmet 'must withstand a blow of this type' .. makes no mention of the head inside of it. Cheap ABS helmets will pass the test, all day long, however, fatal head injuries are not uncommon, when the helmet appears undamaged , because , like a car bumper, they will pop back into shape. Not a lot of use when its caved your skull in though.
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They all meet the standard for road use set by our government, that's good enough for me. No offence :)
 
At the end of the day, we all make our own decisions, we buy whatever we like the look of and is in our price range, Nuff sed!.
 
Richard and Ann said:
They all meet the standard for road use set by our government, that's good enough for me. No offence :)
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That doesn't mean the standard is anything like high enough though does it?

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The very best solution is to not ride a motorbike..
 
There are loads of videos on Youtube where the guys from the Snell Foundation apply their tests to cheapo helmets that have somehow passed DOT and/or ECE certification.

Interesting stuff. If anyone is happy to still wear such a helmet after watching a few of these videos I suppose Darwinism will take care of them sooner rather than later :whistle:
 
Such violent tests are misleading in my opinion. In a fast crash the deceleration will probably kill you anyway, a helmet no matter what it's made of can't do anything (much) about that. Such tests are designed to relieve you of your money. (n) Perhaps a stronger lid would save you if your head subsequently got run over but what are the chances of that.

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Richard and Ann said:
Such violent tests are misleading in my opinion. In a fast crash the deceleration will probably kill you anyway, a helmet no matter what it's made of can't do anything (much) about that. Such tests are designed to relieve you of your money. (n) Perhaps a stronger lid would save you if your head subsequently got run over but what are the chances of that.
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Is it me you're trying to convince or yourself there? :whistle:

Trying to bring money into the argument is misleading: It's perfectly possible buy a SHARP 5 star rated helmet or a Snell approved helmet for less than £100.

Keeping that in mind why anyone would settle for basic DOT/ECE certification and then claim that the higher standards are over the top is completely beyond me. (n)

Perhaps you haven't read post #20 in this thread. Would you be confident to give your new helmet a similar test? I believe, based on the fact that it's his post, that the sudden deceleration didn't do the rider any lasting harm :whistle:
 
Richard and Ann said:
if your head subsequently got run over but what are the chances of that.
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That is the whole point, you wear in Indestructonium million pound helmet and a truck runs over your gut.

Was Simoncelli wearing a cheap nasty helmet, was that why he died ?

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Lots of things could go wrong, the probability of whether they will go wrong (or not) is another question entirely. I think it is down to the individual to assess their risk and decide the level of protection they personally warrant to try and ensure their ongoing existence should something bad happen. You can only control the controllable, I can choose my protective equipment, I can't necessarily choose when or the circumstances under which I may rely on it.
 
The "don't bother with a decent helmet because if you crash something else will probably kill you anyway" argument is the same one that the Yanks who don't want to wear a helmet at all use.

I thought everyone else had moved on from such nonsense years ago.

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