Cooking Alternatives to Gas Ovens

[RobinE]

Greeting All,
Just about to put a deposit on a new van which ticks every single box for us except one, there is no gas oven or grill.
We don't do a great deal of cooking but do need some means of warming up ready meals.,etc. So need to think of alternatives. We avoid EHU whenever possible. There is room for a microwave, although van has Lithium and 1800 watt inverter, I think microwave would deplete the batteries very quickly, especially during winter in the UK. Also thought of an air fryer.
Looking for ideas anyone?
Thanks
Robin

 

[Soycd]

We’ve only ever had one motorhome in nearly 30 years that had an oven/grill and we used that once. Probably as we’ve always bought LHD German spec. We just use the gas rings or go out. I expect if you are planning on going away for longer periods you may need an alternative though.

 

[Charente16]

A 'Remoska', either 500/600Watts depending on the size you want. It will work as an oven and and to a lesser degree a grill.

 

[Lenny HB]

A microwave will use far less power than an air frier, the smallest air fryers are around a 1000 watts and take twice as long to cook as a bigger one.
With the air fryer say, 1000 W for ½ hour would use around 50 ah allowing for cycling and not on all the time.
A 700 watt microwave will use use around 1000 watt but will only be on for about 5 min using about 7ah.

 

[MisterB]

We have a 304Ah Fogstar lithium and a 3000w Renogy inverter. We are now moving to cooking everything on elect, on and off grid.
Microwave, induction hob, slow cooker, air fryer, George foreman grill and pizza oven ....along with a cadac, which I think will be used less and less ...

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[Howard B]

A microwave will use far less power than an air frier, the smallest air fryers are around a 1000 watts and take twice as long to cook as a bigger one.
With the air fryer say, 1000 W for ½ hour would use around 50 ah allowing for cycling and not on all the time.
A 700 watt microwave will use use around 1000 watt but will only be on for about 5 min using about 7ah.

Our 1000w air fryer uses nowhere near that, maybe 10a.

 

[Just smiffy]

Remoska, I use it in the house too, brilliant bit of kit….

 

[funflair]

Our 1000w air fryer uses nowhere near that, maybe 10a.

That's the trouble with amps 20 times as many from you battery as you get out of the inverter

 

[Howard B]

Greeting All,
Just about to put a deposit on a new van which ticks every single box for us except one, there is no gas oven or grill.
We don't do a great deal of cooking but do need some means of warming up ready meals.,etc. So need to think of alternatives. We avoid EHU whenever possible. There is room for a microwave, although van has Lithium and 1800 watt inverter, I think microwave would deplete the batteries very quickly, especially during winter in the UK. Also thought of an air fryer.
Looking for ideas anyone?
Thanks
Robin

We have a 600w Quest oven, 1000w Tower air frier, 1500w twin Vango induction hob, 700w George forman & 700w kettle.
Run one of these at a time from a 200a lithium and 1500w inverter.

 

[Howard B]

That's the trouble with amps 20 times as many from you battery as you get out of the inverter

Dont understand what you are saying. My point was that my battery will drop by @ 10a when i use the air fryer .

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[Lenny HB]

Our 1000w air fryer uses nowhere near that, maybe 10a.

While it's heating it will be using 80 amps, it was only a guess I assumed a cycle perion of about 75%, it must be way Less than that then.

 

[Lenny HB]

Dont understand what you are saying. My point was that my battery will drop by @ 10a when i use the air fryer .

What Martin is saying is the current at 12v will be 20 times the current at 240v.

So an item that uses 2 amps at 240v will use 40 amps at 12v.
In practice it will be 10 - 15% worse than that due to inverter efficiency.

 

[Imala615]

Best thing i have used for over 15 years and still use it despite having an oven .

Welcome to the Double Skillet Pan Company

cooking on a hob wihout an oven

www.thedoubleskilletpancompany.com

 

[Howard B]

While it's heating it will be using 80 amps, it was only a guess I assumed a cycle perion of about 75%, it must be way Less than that then.

95a when heating and @ 3a when “ticking over”

 

[Howard B]

What Martin is saying is the current at 12v will be 20 times the current at 240v.

So an item that uses 2 amps at 240v will use 40 amps at 12v.
In practice it will be 10 - 15% worse than that due to inverter efficiency.

Still over my head

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[funflair]

Dont understand what you are saying. My point was that my battery will drop by @ 10a when i use the air fryer .

I assume you mean the remaining capacity will drop by 10? so that would be Ah, what I was trying to say is that without specifying voltage amps doesn't mean much and people can get confused

 

[Lenny HB]

Still over my head

2 amps at 240v = 480 watts

40 amps at 12v = 480 Watts.

 

[Howard B]

I assume you mean the remaining capacity will drop by 10? so that would be Ah, what I was trying to say is that without specifying voltage amps doesn't mean much and people can get confused

If i start cooking and my leisure battery was at 200ah, when i finish cooking it will be at 190ah. Im a bit simple & dont understand what voltage has to do with it. I just know what the battery BMS is telling me; how many ah i have left in the tank.

 

[Howard B]

2 amps at 240v = 480 watts

40 amps at 12v = 480 Watts.

Still means nothing to me sorry. Ill just monitor the Battery BMS and manage my usage

 

[funflair]

If i start cooking and my leisure battery was at 200ah, when i finish cooking it will be at 190ah. Im a bit simple & dont understand what voltage has to do with it. I just know what the battery BMS is telling me; how many ah i have left in the tank.

OK if you had said 200ah to 190ah in the first place I would have kept out of it Lenny has tried to explain the effect of voltage, but basically if you look at the amps rating on your air fryer you will need 20 times as many from your battery, if you just watch your battery monitor you will be OK

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[hja]

We only have two burner hob. Our previous van had a grill (which we did use) an oven which we didnt and a microwave which we used a bit. We thought long & hard about cooking in this van. Worked out that many of our meals, and we do cook in the van, only needed two burners. The stuff we used the microwave for you we could do in other ways. We also have a Remoska which we only use on hook up - we dont have an inverter - so we just need to be aware if off grid. We do like a slice of toast, dont take a toaster, but found best way was to dry fry in our fairly heavy frying pan. We have not missed the oven, grill, microwave at all. If you can use the remoska with your inverter - then no problems.

 

[GMLS]

If your infrastructure supports it or happy to upgrade, this looks an interesting option.Microwave, oven, grill/air fryer

 

[Elsie2010]

Greeting All,
Just about to put a deposit on a new van which ticks every single box for us except one, there is no gas oven or grill.
We don't do a great deal of cooking but do need some means of warming up ready meals.,etc. So need to think of alternatives. We avoid EHU whenever possible. There is room for a microwave, although van has Lithium and 1800 watt inverter, I think microwave would deplete the batteries very quickly, especially during winter in the UK. Also thought of an air fryer.
Looking for ideas anyone?
Thanks
Robin

Ridge monkey?
Eco flow for plugs to use an elec hob or/and air fryer
Portable gas stove (for when the weather's nice)

 

[rb62]

We've caravanned/motorhomed for over twenty years and never used the oven in either. Not much you can't do with a good set of cast aluminium pans.

 

[RobinE]

Lots of ideas, thanks everyone. That has reassured us and we have agreed to buy the van.
It has 300ah lithium plus 95 ah AGM, and a 70 amp B2B charger and 180 amp solar. As we would not normally stay in one location for more than two nights without motoring around for an hour or two, I am pretty comfortable that we will have enough juice for our needs. We also have a coffee machine and a compressor freezer (full of dog food) to consider plus all the regular stuff.
I am thinking that a 700 watt microwave together with a Remoska and the stove top double skillet would cover us.
The Sage combi looks interesting and I will investigate more. Ventilation may be an issue as it would be located in the cupboard above the fridge/freezer.

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[h8ten]

I had been thinking about replacing the standard Dometic microwave with one of these Sage Combo units but ill have to check the dimensions and if there is adequate ventilation in the space, or even add in a small computer fan to one of the vents.

 

[helzie2020]

Remoska for us. We don't have an inverter but do have an EcoFlow River 2 Pro, which works fine as our rather old Remoska only pulls about 450W.

 

[BobbyJ]

Remoska definately. We take a small one for pies etc and a big one for a whole meal or a pizza. Use at home too, better than the oven which we rarely use now unless we have visitors.

 

[RobinE]

Sage combi is rated at 2.4kw, so no good for us

 

[DucatoMan2]

Cooking at pressure is inherently more power efficient, so I.power a small instatpot from ecoflow most often. I am testing an air fryer for things I want to crisp too. Micro's and ovens are less easy to clean, a big factor for me.