Cirencester Park CMC site - new access road

[maz]

I don’t think there will be a problem width-wise.......as long as nothing comes the other way and you have to pull-in to avoid them. As David & Sally said, there are refuges to pull into, but having the rocks there just makes it that little bit more interesting! My concern is, primarily, that the volume of traffic that uses the road at certain times could make it a real pain to negotiate..........any further thoughts, Maz??


(beat me to it, Maz!

Apart from the rocks, the other main pain is that first blind corner where the road now swings right. You could be well on your way to it when a vehicle suddenly appears around that bend. If it’s a car I would like to think that its driver would be the one to reverse back into the layby, but unfortunately I wouldn’t count on it. If not, you will be faced with reversing out into the lane blind - hoping that nothing is about to come round the corner as you do so.

Another interesting aspect will be whether the school/college coaches stick to their usual routine. This consists of driving into the campus further along the Stroud Road and then out into the access road having unloaded their passengers. From the large double gates installed halfway down the new access road, I would imagine this will remain unchanged. Due to my dog walking times I regularly used to see coaches (quite a lot of them) in the old access road in the mornings. Presumably they repeat this exercise when they collect pupils in the afternoons. In which case I certainly would not like to meet one (or more) of them on their way out.

It will be even more interesting to see what the coach drivers make of the new rocky arrangements.

 

[DJT]

Those of you who have visited this site over the past few years will no doubt recall the very poor condition of the access road. So it was good to see that during the lockdown a new access road was being constructed. This access road is shared by the CMC, Cirencester College and the tennis/cricket club.

However, instead of just widening the road a bit and resurfacing it, there has been earthworks and landscaping!


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Whereas you used to be able to see the full length of the road down to the CMC site, the new road now swings right so that you can’t see if anyone is coming until you get to that corner.

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There are also lots of (artistically?) placed rocks along the edges of the road.

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There are lay-bys - but again with those wondrously placed rocks ........

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And the final approach to the CMC site - even more rocks!

From what I have been told, these rocks did not feature in the original plans. IMO they are ugly, unnecessary and a hazard to paintwork.

THESE ARE ROCKS
This is what our council did to the car park in our local country park in East Cumbria a couple of years ago !!! To improve parking
They done this without any consultation and had them put in place a few days before Christmas at a cost of about 50,000 pounds.
They lasted about Two months and they had to remove them because of the amount of accidents involving vehicles hitting them☹
I believe the lady responsible for the work and managing the park was sacked!!

 

[Silver-Fox]

THESE ARE ROCKS
This is what our council did to the car park in our local country park in East Cumbria a couple of years ago !!! To improve parking
They done this without any consultation and had them put in place a few days before Christmas at a cost of about 50,000 pounds.
They lasted about Two months and they had to remove them because of the amount of accidents involving vehicles hitting them☹
I believe the lady responsible for the work and managing the park was sacked!!View attachment 391478View attachment 391478View attachment 391478

Surely it was poor driving that people hit the rocks.
Nothing to do with putting.

 

[maz]

THESE ARE ROCKS
This is what our council did to the car park in our local country park in East Cumbria a couple of years ago !!! To improve parking
They done this without any consultation and had them put in place a few days before Christmas at a cost of about 50,000 pounds.
They lasted about Two months and they had to remove them because of the amount of accidents involving vehicles hitting them☹
I believe the lady responsible for the work and managing the park was sacked!!

That is massively ugly!

 

[AndyPK]

Further Update.....
C&MC have confirmed receipt of my email, and have passed it to their Site Operations team who will investigate and respond....

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[Mikey RV]

Does the new road come out opposite the exit of the site so you have to turn left and then go in site entrance. What’s past the entrance now as if your heading up the old way out.

 

[AndyPK]

Does the new road come out opposite the exit of the site so you have to turn left and then go in site entrance. What’s past the entrance now as if your heading up the old way out.

The entrance/exit to the site is the same....the access road has just been realigned in the middle section........

 

[maz]

Does the new road come out opposite the exit of the site so you have to turn left and then go in site entrance. What’s past the entrance now as if your heading up the old way out.

Hi Mike. I’m not too sure what you mean. I’ll have a go at drawing a plan of the road later today - drawing not a strong point of mine!

 

[Langtoftlad]

Traffic lights?

 

[maz]

Ok, here is a plan of the road. I got Mr David to draw it for me.

There is no way to use the old access road as it is blocked off by an earth bank at each end. The earth bank is going to have shrubs planted on top of it at some future date. There is currently a lot of wasted space between the old road and the earth bank, but maybe Cirencester College have plans to put something in there.

For clarity, the rocks have been omitted. If only it were so in reality!

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[Jenben]

Having been up there today to pick something up from maz in a Social distance manner , that road looks like a quarry lorry has just lost its load along the route , there are a lot of large rocks !

 

[AndyPK]

....and here is the latest from the Regional Manager of the C&MC:-

‘We are fully aware of the challenges of the new road layout, particularly owing to the addition of traffic calming measures at the side of the road which did not form part of any of the planning application drawings which we were privy to. Needless to say, the Club and all other businesses that similarly use that road are strongly urging the college to remove those boulders – from their private road – with great urgency and to revert to the scheme in strict accordance with the permissions that were granted. Our Head of Estates continues to push these matters with the appropriate persons.’

So, it’s only rock ‘n roll, but they don’t like it.......!

 

[Mr David]

The rock are still in place but now some if them have mysteriously managed to move themselves on to and overlap the tarmac. I had occasion to go out in the van this afternoon and only just managed to squeeze passed, in one place, with only 2 inches on each side. On return I had to roll some of the other ones over on their sides away from the road, just to make it safe. I just don't understand why those responsible won't accept that they are a big mistake and get rid of them.

 

[The Coops]

The rock are still in place but now some if them have mysteriously managed to move themselves on to and overlap the tarmac. I had occasion to go out in the van this afternoon and only just managed to squeeze passed, in one place, with only 2 inches on each side. On return I had to roll some of the other ones over on their sides away from the road, just to make it safe. I just don't understand why those responsible won't accept that they are a big mistake and get rid of them.

How wide is your van? Genuine question as no idea of width of photos

 

[AndyPK]

The rock are still in place but now some if them have mysteriously managed to move themselves on to and overlap the tarmac. I had occasion to go out in the van this afternoon and only just managed to squeeze passed, in one place, with only 2 inches on each side. On return I had to roll some of the other ones over on their sides away from the road, just to make it safe. I just don't understand why those responsible won't accept that they are a big mistake and get rid of them.

Makes you wonder who would waste their time doing that?
The college is shut, so we can’t blame the students, can we? My guess is that it’s the cricketers venting their frustration at not being able to play!

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[Mr David]

How wide is your van? Genuine question as no idea of width of photos

I'm an 8mt tag axle van that's 2.3mts wide. The worst of the rocks is on one of the corners, which with a fairly long wheel base, makes it very tight.
A car with large twin axle caravan in tow would not have managed that corner.

 

[maz]

And it gets worse ......

This morning we had to go out in the van at 5am (don’t ask ). The two rocks that were slightly in the road yesterday have been moved back but a different and even larger one has been rolled right over into it! I had to get out of the van to guide it safely through - and it was a bloody squeeze. This is beginning to seriously pi$$ me off!

 

[Hellski]

Health and safety nightmare!!!

You only need a young child, or not so young to play on one of those and for it to easily topple over, causing serious injuries

In the way those stones have been stood, you could push one over one handed but once fallen over, it would take more than one person to lift back up, crazy situation!

 

[M-J]

Could have widened the road by a foot for the same cost as all that stone!

 

[maz]

In the way those stones have been stood, you could push one over one handed but once fallen over, it would take more than one person to lift back up, crazy situation!

There you have it! Neither of us are exactly feeble but there was no way we could have pushed that rock back upright.

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[skylinersi]

the solution is....………….
one dark night...………………..cordless drill, large masonry bit...……………….sticks of dynamite...…...

job done...…...

volunteers?...……..

 

[maz]

the solution is....………….
one dark night...………………..cordless drill, large masonry bit...……………….sticks of dynamite...…...

job done...…...

volunteers?...……..

When’s Bob-a-Job week?

 

[AndyPK]

Careful, Maz........you’re showing your age! How many on here remember ‘Bob-a-Job’?

(and how much would it be now?)

 

[maz]

Further update

There has been some progress with the movement of those bl**dy rocks - but not a lot! Some of the rocks have been pushed further into the earth bank at the S-bend and in the lay-bys by a small digger. This is an improvement but it would be much better if those rocks were not there at all. Apparently the college has no intention of removing said rocks so I guess that the CMC ‘Head of Estates’ (see post #42) needs to push a little harder .......

 

[kevenh]

Thanks for posting updates.
We've a late mid-August visit to this site so it's been very useful

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[Silver-Fox]

I’ve been down that road and it will be an accident waiting to happen.

Chaos will ensue

 

[AndyPK]

I’m going to sneak up there tonight with my Tonka and push them all into the roadway.....heh heh heh......(rubbing hands together)......

 

[maz]

For those that fancy a little light reading. In particular the penultimate paragraph on page 7.

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[icantremember]

For those that fancy a little light reading. In particular the penultimate paragraph on page 7.

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[Jenben]

Once the college is reopened I think those rocks will regularly be moved into the road by students who think it’s all a bit of fun.

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