Change of Reg No.

[Larby]

A previous owner put the number on. The first two letters were his initials and the last 3 reflected his surname so it’s only of interest to a narrow audience!

Offer back to original owner ??

 

[Yorick]

15 year ago I bought an Audi TT with X5ATT.

I saw that it was worth a few bob and I didn't like it.
So touted it to a couple of those Reg Number buyers and sellers.
They got me about £750 and told me to go on DVLA site and pick any number I wanted for 2005.
They did all paperwork.

So picked CW05YOZ

CW are my real initials and Yoz short for Yorick.

So had a wad of cash a cool reg that only I knew about

 

[tonyidle]

I bought a Fiat 500C as a toad last year. It came with F11 ATC. Seller offered me the reg for extra money. I said I wasn't interested so he gave it to me anyway .

 

[gus-lopez]

Lots of foreign vehicles enter the country. It would then be a matter of re-registration - it could have been on SORN.

Unfortunately just because it was Uk before doesn't make it esier.It is a foreign vehicle wanting to be imported & they go through the same hoops that a non uk original would have to hmrc have to supply a "no need for vat" notice I believe.

 

[Emmit]

You have got me thinking a bit deeper now. If a DVSA (old VOSA) inspection is required then I would assume that since it had already been on the UK register that only an MOT would be required.

Then there is the question about whether the MOT station will conduct a test on a foreign registered vehicle, but on the other hand will DVLA re-register it without the MOT being in place? Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Anyone who has done this know the answer?

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[Nanniemate]

DVLA will not issue a Registration that post dates the original.

In other words, if your van was ORIGINALLY an 03, that is what you will get back. You will NOT get 53, 04 etc.
Edit: It is highly likely that you will get the original No. back.

Bought mine didn't was the vanity plate. Seller kept it and it reverted straight back to the original reg. He had kept the plates in the shed . Simples

 

[Emmit]

What a brilliant plate for an ex-Sgt copper!

You should tell your kids to advertise it in a police families magazine or bulletin (they must have one). Would be snapped up by another retiree.

What I didn't tell you was that, at the same time, I coulda,shoulda bought
Wait for it.....

X1 NSP. (Or in other words X 1NSP)

It was a Grand and, if I hadn't been up to my eyeballs in credit card debt trying to
finish off our house prior to retirement, I would have.

 

[Emmit]

You have got me thinking a bit deeper now. If a DVSA (old VOSA) inspection is required then I would assume that since it had already been on the UK register that only an MOT would be required.

Then there is the question about whether the MOT station will conduct a test on a foreign registered vehicle, but on the other hand will DVLA re-register it without the MOT being in place? Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Anyone who has done this know the answer?

When I speak of examination by the Inspectorate, that is what is said to the applicant by DVLA when you apply to have the vehicle No. transferred.

I can't remember if it was when the Cherished plate is taken off the old vehicle or when the Cherished No. is put on the 'New' vehicle.

My feeling, from reading the notes at the time was that they will contact you as part of the procedure if they feel there is a need.

 

[Emmit]

What a brilliant plate for an ex-Sgt copper!

You should tell your kids to advertise it in a police families magazine or bulletin (they must have one). Would be snapped up by another retiree.

They are under instructions to do exactly that.

They are also aware that the pictures in the house that they don't want should be sold back in Yorkshire because that where they were painted with scenes local to there.

 

[bobnick]

I bought ours, 22BN, 44BN, 0006 RSN, (and still have hidden 0006 SAN) because i wanted to.
When RN 1 came up for sale recently i was offered it, but at £450,000 i declined. It's now come down to ONLY £375.000, still don't want it..........sorry yes i do but daft price.
Value of mine, don't know not bothered.

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[DK1083]

I think I'd ask if one of the no. plate sellers wants to buy it. I know if it was me I'd probably end up paying to have it on retention and never get around to selling it

I’ve had it on with a company called Reg. Transfers for several months but no joy.

 

[DK1083]

Offer back to original owner ??

It was a while ago and a couple of owners when it was changed I think and I have no idea where he is.

 

[nicholsong]

Unfortunately just because it was Uk before doesn't make it esier.It is a foreign vehicle wanting to be imported & they go through the same hoops that a non uk original would have to hmrc have to supply a "no need for vat" notice I believe.

Are you only referring to HMRC or also to DVLA and DVSA?

 

[DK1083]

if you say what the plate is there may be someone here would want it

Worth a shot I guess!
MJ02 HOB
Any offers???!!!

 

[rod_vw]

nicholsong don't regard my comments below as 100% correct but...

I think you may have to go through the V765 process with your vehicle as its UK number would have been surrendered when it was exported. For that you would have to have documentary proof that the VIN and requested registration mark did at one time belong together. Download the V765 form and its guidance notes and have a read. You may also need a V55/5 form which can also be downloaded.
If you cannot satisfy their requirements to reclaim the original plate then you should be offered an age related registration mark appropriate to the original manufacturing date (not its first registration in the UK or anywhere else). That's where things get even messier as you will need proof of that date (or period) which the DVLA will accept as genuine.
If you don't already have a HMRC NOVA document to confirm that any revenue charges have been paid or not due be aware that the DVLA seem to consider any used vehicle that does not have a UK registration mark must be an import and insist on the NOVA certificate number. They are then able to cross check with the HMRC database to confirm.
From my personal experience of assisting owners who are registering imports old or not so old and those who have purchased old vehicles in the UK which are not on the DVLA computer I can confirm the above relating to the NOVA documents. You will see where I come into all of this if you look up my name under the Historic Volkswagen Club entry in the DVLA V765/1 booklet.

Personally I would advise first contacting the DVLA via their Web Chat and ask for guidance. That way you will get written proof of what you are advised as those answering telephone questions are often contradicted by others further down the line!

Your saving grace will be if you have a copy of the V5C that was appropriate to the vehicle from before it was exported, that may bypass all other documents BUT don't send them your only copy!

Good luck.

Rod

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[nicholsong]

nicholsong don't regard my comments below as 100% correct but...

I think you may have to go through the V765 process with your vehicle as its UK number would have been surrendered when it was exported. For that you would have to have documentary proof that the VIN and requested registration mark did at one time belong together. Download the V765 form and its guidance notes and have a read. You may also need a V55/5 form which can also be downloaded.
If you cannot satisfy their requirements to reclaim the original plate then you should be offered an age related registration mark appropriate to the original manufacturing date (not its first registration in the UK or anywhere else). That's where things get even messier as you will need proof of that date (or period) which the DVLA will accept as genuine.
If you don't already have a HMRC NOVA document to confirm that any revenue charges have been paid or not due be aware that the DVLA seem to consider any used vehicle that does not have a UK registration mark must be an import and insist on the NOVA certificate number. They are then able to cross check with the HMRC database to confirm.
From my personal experience of assisting owners who are registering imports old or not so old and those who have purchased old vehicles in the UK which are not on the DVLA computer I can confirm the above relating to the NOVA documents. You will see where I come into all of this if you look up my name under the Historic Volkswagen Club entry in the DVLA V765/1 booklet.

Personally I would advise first contacting the DVLA via their Web Chat and ask for guidance. That way you will get written proof of what you are advised as those answering telephone questions are often contradicted by others further down the line!

Your saving grace will be if you have a copy of the V5C that was appropriate to the vehicle from before it was exported, that may bypass all other documents BUT don't send them your only copy!

Good luck.

Rod

Rod

Thanks for that comprehensive reply and for the time taking to write it.

I have a copy of the V5c (I seem to remember I had to surrender the main part of the original) and the rest of the original, so I have the document no. which should help. I kept the info for just this purpose.

As for date of manufacture I suppose they want the N&B date, not Fiat date. Maybe they will accept a photo of the N&B LadingPlate which gives the issue date. f not N&B will probably be able to supply it.

For HMRC I have no evidence of payment of VAT, but I know from boat experience that over a certain age they deem VAT paid and this MH is coming up 21 years-old in April.

I take your point about contacting DVLA by webchat, which also avoids an hour hanging on the phone. I will tell them all the above and ask if that will satisfy them when the time comes, which still might be some time away yet.

Thanks again.

Geoff

 

[rod_vw]

Rod

Thanks for that comprehensive reply and for the time taking to write it.

I have a copy of the V5c (I seem to remember I had to surrender the main part of the original) and the rest of the original, so I have the document no. which should help. I kept the info for just this purpose.

As for date of manufacture I suppose they want the N&B date, not Fiat date. Maybe they will accept a photo of the N&B LadingPlate which gives the issue date. f not N&B will probably be able to supply it.

For HMRC I have no evidence of payment of VAT, but I know from boat experience that over a certain age they deem VAT paid and this MH is coming up 21 years-old in April.

I take your point about contacting DVLA by webchat, which also avoids an hour hanging on the phone. I will tell them all the above and ask if that will satisfy them when the time comes, which still might be some time away yet.

Thanks again.

Geoff

Hi Geoff,

As you can quote the serial number of the previous V5C if I were you I would simply apply for a new one stating that the vehicle has now been repatriated to the UK and give them the serial number of the previous version. Data wise it should still all be on the computer system. The DVLA may still ask for a NOVA document confirming that HMRC have no interest in the vehicle. A phone call to HMRC will most probably supply one.
Sending information to the DVLA often works best on the 'less is more' scenario, your request will no doubt be handled initially by a case worker, if he or she sees it all very simple it's most likely to get approved.
Please let us (or direct to me) how you get on.

 

[nicholsong]

Hi Geoff,

As you can quote the serial number of the previous V5C if I were you I would simply apply for a new one stating that the vehicle has now been repatriated to the UK and give them the serial number of the previous version. Data wise it should still all be on the computer system. The DVLA may still ask for a NOVA document confirming that HMRC have no interest in the vehicle. A phone call to HMRC will most probably supply one.
Sending information to the DVLA often works best on the 'less is more' scenario, your request will no doubt be handled initially by a case worker, if he or she sees it all very simple it's most likely to get approved.
Please let us (or direct to me) how you get on.

Further good advice.

As I said above the move is not imminent and even if/when I arrive with MH in UK one still has 6 months before the need to re-register, by then I may have decided that France or Spain are a better choice.