Chains or locks whilst out and about. (2 Viewers)

[suavecarve]

I don't think bike shops recommend them -

We have 4 of these.

Relatively simple to break them if you know how to Google but solid looking to an unknowing thief, easy to carry, 2 seconds to put on and off, no keys.

And have been successful for 4 years .... So far.

Amazon about 15-20 quid

 

[Baggydave]

Well to be honest if a thief wants your bike it’s gonna go.
It seems crazy to carry massive & presumably heavy locks around while on a leisure ride. They will reduce the miles for a start. I also assume that any chain/lock could easily be cut with a battery grinder.
Not wishing to tempt fate I’ve had my e-bike for several years now & have always use a simple light weight coded cable from a Chinese shop. It cost about 3 euros. The bikes a bit scruffy but works great.
I always attach it to a bit of street furniture in the open when necessary. Maybe it’s not bright & shiney enough to steal!
It sits secured on the rear rack when travelling or not in use. Although to be honest the whole rack is only held on by 4 10mm nuts & could easily be off in a jiffy.
We have been all over Europe too.

Just my opinion.

 

[buntyb]

We use a D Lock, a metal one that folds away and a couple of normal combinations. We’re thinking of purchasing quick release pedals as this would prevent anyone peddling away, I think all we’re trying to do is make our bikes slightly harder to nick than the ones next to it but if they want them they take them.
The thing with the grinder proof ones is they’ll just cut the pole, few YouTube videos where they cut the metal the bike is secured to so no lock would prevent this.

We have been using these on our e-mountain bikes for over 2yrs now with zero issues. Like you say, they’re not riding away on it when the peddles are in my backpack

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08ZCMC4YD?tag=mhf04-21

 

[Kannon Fodda]

I use Litelok Core Plus version. Various cables in some sort of outer mesh. They claim the mesh catches some of the dics cutter blades and also the cable cutter thing and similarly the different cables make it different to chew through them. They suggest some can be body worn around waist but in reality not that comfortable as they are heavy and don't flex much.

I don't think any lock will deter a determined equipped scooter but makes it unattractive that they chose an easier target.

 

[Richard n Ann]

This is my bike lock. Had it about 10 years now, used it with the scooter too, gets good reviews on amazon.

Kryptonite Unisex's Evolution Chain Lock, Black/Orange, 10mm x 55cm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006QN0MIU?tag=mhf04-21

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[Hoovie]

This is my bike lock. Had it about 10 years now, used it with the scooter too, gets good reviews on amazon.

Kryptonite Unisex's Evolution Chain Lock, Black/Orange, 10mm x 55cm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006QN0MIU?tag=mhf04-21

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That's the main one I use as well

 

[Mullet Man]

My expensive e-bike has a Dutch/Cafe lock with small Abus chain to wrap around street furniture.I don't worry about theft on the street because the bike is never out of my sight. With the Dutch lock they'd have to carry it away after cutting the light chain. If there is no out door seat at that seductive Euro cafe or restaurant I move on. On the rack on the back of my PVC the bike is secured with a Squire Motorbike Sold Secure Gold chain and Squire Sold Secure Gold padlock through the towing bracket. Dutch lock on,bike rack securing bracket locked,Vanbitz growler alarm loop on.Bike always under it's Bags4less cover, batteries removed. It is at it's most vunerable on the van, but the thing is for riding not whittling about. At home it is in a brick built outhouse with barred locked security door behind the locked wood door.Then a very heavy Squire Motorkbike Sold Secure Gold chain that runs through a ground anchor in the concrete floor and the chain I use on the van through a wall anchor.Both locked with Squire Sold Secure Gold locks. Despite all this I cannot get insurance with anyone as my outbuilding is on a shared yard and not in the curtilage of my property. I could put the bike in my wooden garden shed with nothing to secure it to and they will insure me. Crazy.

 

[Toady]

Loads on You Tube testing various locks. I have two different types but one of them is the LITELOK. Check this lock out on You Tube.

 

[TravellingSmurff]

I use Litelok Core Plus version. Various cables in some sort of outer mesh. They claim the mesh catches some of the dics cutter blades and also the cable cutter thing and similarly the different cables make it different to chew through them. They suggest some can be body worn around waist but in reality not that comfortable as they are heavy and don't flex much.

I don't think any lock will deter a determined equipped scooter but makes it unattractive that they chose an easier target.

They all can be broken in under a minute
I think I agree that if they want it, they will get it. And therefore don't rely on one lock. Think of it as time to steal e.g. "the longer it takes to steal, the better" So if each one takes a minute then buy multiple cheaper ones

 

[Kannon Fodda]

They all can be broken in under a minute
I think I agree that if they want it, they will get it. And therefore don't rely on one lock. Think of it as time to steal e.g. "the longer it takes to steal, the better" So if each one takes a minute then buy multiple cheaper ones

That's an older or simpler version. The Core came out later and was toughened to address some of the issues in that linked test.

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[JMHerts]

I have this lock which gets good reviews https://www.litelok.com/products/litelok-x1 although when I lock it to something I assume they can always cut up the object I've locked to, even if they don't try and get through the lock.

 

[Nigel Crompton]

I've seen Utrecht council workers with an angle grider shift 50+ (illegally/inappropriatley chained) bikes onto a flat-bed in 20 mins. Just seconds for each. They even have a gizmo for tensioning chains & cables prior to cutting.
If it's any consolation, I've got all the heavyweight kit but all I ever use now is Hiplock Pop. Light, easy to use, carry - and never left for more than 5 mins outside shops

 

[Mikey RV]

Leave the bikes in a high gear, harder to pedal away and remove saddle, they don’t like it up um mr manner ing.

 

[Tigertom]

This is my bike lock. Had it about 10 years now, used it with the scooter too, gets good reviews on amazon.

Kryptonite Unisex's Evolution Chain Lock, Black/Orange, 10mm x 55cm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006QN0MIU?tag=mhf04-21

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I had one like this for my motorbike and lost the keys…….I cut through and removed it in under 2 minutes.
All bike locks are angle grinder resistant not grinder proof.


Check out this vid for an idea how easy it is for thieves

 

[Mr porky]

Another feature on this cube bike is it won't activate the electric motors if my phone is not within range. 10 feet or more I would say.

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[The Coops]

If you had got the Van Moof ones they come with I phone app that disables the power and is tracked, anyway I would look at one of the hidden trackers and disabling the power option plus warning stickers and as others have said lots of locks, we have the Dutch wheel locks a gold standard d lock and bar lock as well as a cable lock, you are looking at delaying tactics, the more time it takes the more attention it draws. At the end of the day they may well just cut through whatever its attached to and carry off, hence the tracker!

 

[The Coops]

If you had got the Van Moof ones they come with I phone app that disables the power and is tracked, anyway I would look at one of the hidden trackers and disabling the power option plus warning stickers and as others have said lots of locks, we have the Dutch wheel locks a gold standard d lock and bar lock as well as a cable lock, you are looking at delaying tactics, the more time it takes the more attention it draws. At the end of the day they may well just cut through whatever its attached to and carry off, hence the tracker!

 

[Nigel Crompton]

Another feature on this cube bike is it won't activate the electric motors if my phone is not within range. 10 feet or more I would say.

Doesn't stop it being nicked tho' ....

 

[gus-lopez]

Electric bikes? Simple,use the battery to electrify the frame when left.Same as electric fencing but stronger.

probably fit on a bike somewhere

probably fit on the discs as most bikes have them now but they will just carry them off

 

[Richard n Ann]

Electric bikes? Simple,use the battery to electrify the frame when left.Same as electric fencing but stronger.

You'd have to put a sign up...

"will thieves kindly take their shoes and socks off and step on the copper grid while working on the security devices. Many thanks"

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[Hoovie]

I had never heard of "dutch locks" before reading this thread.
I like the idea of the simplicity of a lock that is fitted to the bike permanently and so easily deployed and did a little search on Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=dutch+...s,101&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_10&tag=mhf04-21
I couldn't see how any of those would be mounted on the bike in a true "Dutch Lock" style as I understand it. Anyone enlighten me on this?

 

[Hoovie]

I think I may have found the answer to my Dutch Lock question .... get one of these as well as typical UK bikes don't have the required mounts?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Axa-Unisexs-Flexible-Mounting-Strips/dp/B018TSTUE6/?tag=mhf04-21

 

[Mullet Man]

Leave the bikes in a high gear, harder to pedal away and remove saddle, they don’t like it up um mr manner ing.

Forgot to say I do that. Leave it in 14th gear and remove control unit it is unrideable.I've never got above 12th gear going down the steepest hill.

 

[The Coops]

I think I may have found the answer to my Dutch Lock question .... get one of these as well as typical UK bikes don't have the required mounts?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Axa-Unisexs-Flexible-Mounting-Strips/dp/B018TSTUE6/?tag=mhf04-21

You can buy the mounts on line they are like a thick tie/zip lock, if they are cut the lock will still jam the wheel. If you go abroad the Dutch equivalent of Halfords do them, branches in most towns as geared up for bikes in Holland

 

[Neilh]

As well as locks we have airbags concealed inside the bike, does stop them being stolen but should help them to be recovered.
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[Mr porky]

If you had got the Van Moof ones they come with I phone app that disables the power and is tracked, anyway I would look at one of the hidden trackers and disabling the power option plus warning stickers and as others have said lots of locks, we have the Dutch wheel locks a gold standard d lock and bar lock as well as a cable lock, you are looking at delaying tactics, the more time it takes the more attention it draws. At the end of the day they may well just cut through whatever its attached to and carry off, hence the tracker!

I looked at them but it's for apple phones not androids.

 

[jongood]

I was told by an ex thief he hated alarmed disc locks, I know they are for motorcycles but they'll probably fit on a bike somewhere

Thats a cracking idea, just ordered one.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Thats a cracking idea, just ordered one.

I've bought lots of alarmed disc locks, even a xena Bluetooth one, sadly the electronics are garbage on most of them but my latest one has been OK for over a year

Edit : just had a thought, all the dead ones are in my garage, I could open a disc lock museum

 

[Hoovie]

You can buy the mounts on line they are like a thick tie/zip lock, if they are cut the lock will still jam the wheel.

I created my own version of the Dutch Lock well over 40 years ago.....
Riding home the 3 miles from school I managed to get the rear deraillier jammed into the spokes a couple of hundred yards leaving school.
Dragged the bike home the 3 miles - so could have been nicking it just as easily (shows the importance of locking to an immovable object as well) but by the time I got home the rear tyre had been totally worn away at the bottom as well as the inner tube and probably the wheel rim a bit knackered!
(there is a reason why I didn't try to sort the derailler out. suffice to say I didn't).

If you go abroad the Dutch equivalent of Halfords do them, branches in most towns as geared up for bikes in Holland

 

[Neilh]

Thats a cracking idea, just ordered one.

Good in your hold luggage on flights!

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