Caution with LPG.

[Minxy]

Only two Mel. One pair in the garage for when I'm washing the car in cold weather

What about your stash of marigolds ... and your fancy ones too!

 

[Techno]

One I posted in another filling thread.

 

[Minxy]

You can get really long rubber gloves but it might appear as if you're gonna 'inspect' the rear end of a cow!

 

[Reallyretired]

When we used to handle liquid nitrogen, we were instructed to use gloves that fitted snugly around the wrists rather than gauntlets as the gauntlet part could act is a funnel to potentially fill your gloves. Obviously propane is not as cold but I suspect the same would be true. Proper cryogenic gloves don't have the gauntlet part.

 

[Minxy]

As you can see from the video image that Andy's posted, you have to TOUCH the nozzle to twist it on/off so the guard nozzle would give no protection at all except for when filling, hence why gloves should always be worn and you shouldn't have bare arms either!

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[Techno]

Gas is only released when releasing the trigger and the hand is inside the shield. Watch again
from 3:30

 

[GJH]

What about your stash of marigolds ... and your fancy ones too!

You can get really long rubber gloves but it might appear as if you're gonna 'inspect' the rear end of a cow!

You obviously know far more about the subject than I do

 

[Wombles]

Sorry @Snowbird to hear that you have been injured but thank you for giving us a wake up call - new pair of gloves to be added to our motorhome kit now.

 

[Minxy]

Gas is only released when releasing the trigger and the hand is inside the shield. Watch again
from 3:30

That's if the equipment is working properly ... the twist part can still get cold too so better to be safe and wear gloves regardless!

 

[Techno]

Its only vapour for a fraction of a second and doesn't make the gun cold. Liquid gas is not freezing

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[Minxy]

Its only vapour for a fraction of a second and doesn't make the gun cold. Liquid gas is not freezing

Try telling that to Snowbird!

If its not an issue Andy why have you splashed out on some expensive gloves? Excuse to spend more money???

 

[Techno]

Snowbird was not using a UK pump and using an adapter. I do travel abroad Mel

 

[Minxy]

Snowbird was not using a UK pump and using an adapter. I do travel abroad Mel

My goodness ... you mean you've had your rabies injections and got a pet passport!!!!

 

[maz]

Hope your hand and arm soon heal, Dave, and that it's not too painful.

Thank you for telling us all about this. I always wear gloves when filling up with LPG but have only filled up in the UK. Will now be taking extra care with those tricky European adapters - when we finally get overseas.

 

[Snowbird]

Look on the bright side, you could have gone up in a massive fireball.

I can see the headlines now Snowbird BBQd in Porky.

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[olley]

It's the change of state which makes liquid lpg dangerious. In converting to a gas lpg sucks the heat out the skin in a fraction of a second, killing the skin. You get the same effect in reverse with steam, put you hand close to the spout of a boiling kettle and you get burnt, as the steam dumps its latent heat into you as it changes state to a liquid.

Ian

 

[TUCANO]

Sorry to hear of this, hope you recover soon Snowbird. Always a little apprehensive myself when filling up but even more so now as my van fitting needs the adaptor even to fill in the UK.

 

[Carol]

Hope it's a bit better today Dave, as it starts healing dab it with some pure lavender oil it should take some of the pain away and help with the healing.

 

[wigster]

Sorry to hear about your injury Snowbird , thanks for the heads up and i hope you get well soon.

 

[Minxy]

Hope it's a bit better today Dave, as it starts healing dab it with some pure lavender oil it should take some of the pain away and help with the healing.

Trust me Carol, I don't think he'll be wanting to go anywhere near it with anything! Its horrendously painful and extremely sore and unfortunately, in my and hubby experience, gets worse before it gets better. I don't think he's exaggerating at all about the size of the blister.

I really, really hope it turns out okay but it won't be a quick heal unfortunately.

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[Carol]

Trust me Carol, I don't think he'll be wanting to go anywhere near it with anything! Its horrendously painful and extremely sore and unfortunately, in my and hubby experience, gets worse before it gets better. I don't think he's exaggerating at all about the size of the blister.

I really, really hope it turns out okay but it won't be a quick heal unfortunately.

Pure Essential Lavender Oil.

Mel, I am sure your husbands burns were horrendous, but I would not have said to @Snowbird about using Pure Essential Lavender Oil if I did not know what I was talking about, Dave has been to hospital had it treated but it will be still angry when it starts getting better Essential Lavender Oil will help (I always buy good quality.

In a past life I had a dry cleaning business using large industrial steam presses occasionally some of the girls working them would burn them selves we always had lavender available and a few minutes they could feel the relied of pain and within a day all the pain had gone. We had a lady who when taking a casserole out of the oven and spilt it all down her bare legs, burning herself very badly, she went to the Doctors had treatment but after a week still very painful, she came into the shop I told her to use lavender oil the next day she came in to say thank you it had made a huge difference,

Of course before posting I double checked that it was suitable for chemical burns and the answer is as long as they are not 4th degree burns it will have a benifit. I have also in the past been on a few aromatherapy courses. Anyone who is not sure have a google and see.

EDIT. I would recommend if you have not used it before to try a small patch on your skin if that shows no irritation then it will help you.

 

[tonyidle]

Yes.

His experience it different to yours, he was using a foreign pump.

British Pump, The One True Pump.

That's the one that takes two to lift it, has an engagement system that defies logic, and is attached to the pump by unbendable hose. It also manages to trap enough liquid between its, and the tanks, one way valves to produce a terrifying blast of gas when you (eventually) manage to fight the nozzle free of the vehicle.

Now the French one is light, elegant in its engagement system, and traps just enough liquid to sound a satisfying chuff when disengaged from the vehicle. It is, however, French .

 

[Trixie]

Terry @Terry you're a real gent offering to help Joy @movan. It is nice to have someone who is knowledgeable about things when as a solo lady you are doing something for the first time. Thanks again Terry for being our knight in shining armour (minus the horse).

Veronica

 

[Snowbird]

That's the one that takes two to lift it, has an engagement system that defies logic, and is attached to the pump by unbendable hose. It also manages to trap enough liquid between its, and the tanks, one way valves to produce a terrifying blast of gas when you (eventually) manage to fight the nozzle free of the vehicle.

Now the French one is light, elegant in its engagement system, and traps just enough liquid to sound a satisfying chuff when disengaged from the vehicle. It is, however, French .

The system in Portugal as you say does defy logic. It requires both hands to disengage the gun. One on the trigger and one pressing the little button to re!ease the mechanism. If, as in my case there is any form of malfunction you have no choice but to wade in with both hands. In my opinion a serious design fault, but there is little I can do about it other than be more vigilant next time. I posted this thread as a warning to others to take great care when filling any LPG container, whether it be tank or refillable bottle. It's not just the fire risk you have to watch out for, that liquid can and will do you serious harm if it comes into contact with your skin. If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone, regardless how many times they have filled up with LPG.

 

[Minxy]

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Pure Essential Lavender Oil.

Mel, I am sure your husbands burns were horrendous, but I would not have said to @Snowbird about using Pure Essential Lavender Oil if I did not know what I was talking about, Dave has been to hospital had it treated but it will be still angry when it starts getting better Essential Lavender Oil will help (I always buy good quality.

I was talking about him using it sooner rather than later Carol - it will be very, very sore and painful - it is always a good idea to test any product on a small area first and wait a while to see if there is a reaction as some people can have problems with certain products, even natural ones, and for some with other medical conditions and/or pregnant it can be distinctly dangerous.

The below link to Yorkshire lavender give some info and interesting other uses ... for smelly feet for example!

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[Carol]

I was talking about him using it sooner rather than later Carol - it will be very, very sore and painful - it is always a good idea to test any product on a small area first and wait a while to see if there is a reaction as some people can have problems with certain products, even natural ones, and for some with other medical conditions and/or pregnant it can be distinctly dangerous.

The below link to Yorkshire lavender give some info and interesting other uses ... for smelly feet for example!

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I agree which is why I put the edit in to make sure it's patch tested first. I have visited the Yorkshire Lavender Farm it is very interesting, The whole idea of using the oil is that it takes a lot of the very sore very painful feeling away, last summer my daughter fiancé knocked a candle over him he had boiling hot candle wax all over his hand, we plastered it with L Oil. within an hour the pain was easing and within a few days very little trace of the burn. I would not have posted if I had not known what I was talking about, and thought it would be of some help. You are right it has many properties but like all essential oils should be not used without finding out the uses of each individual oil. Used properly they are very successful in all sorts of ways.

 

[hilldweller]

Now the French one is light,.

Pah, they stink of garlic.

 

[Minxy]

One oil to be careful of, for those with heart conditions or high blood pressure, is peppermint, as it can raise the heart rate and cause palpitations ... there are others to be careful of too so I suggest anyone thinking of using any oils at all should check their appropriate usage, and especially contraindications, carefully in case they should NOT be used alongside existing medical conditions.

 

[gus-lopez]

Snowbird was not using a UK pump and using an adapter. I do travel abroad Mel

I use a UK pump & an adaptor. You still have to unlock it using a twist with the left hand & if there is a fault allowing escape of liquid , as in Snowbird's case, then if no gloves you are in trouble.

 

[Techno]

Releasing the trigger releases the gas. The Locking collar is only the mechanical connection that you should not touch until after releasing the trigger and the burst of vapour.

As from 3 minutes 30 in this video
http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/caution-with-lpg.127154/page-2#post-1791815

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