Carthago liners or Chics are pretty good, im not so keen on the Non German built cheaper versions. Liner is Same chassis but I would ratevwhat you have as better build. Similar layout to Phoenix you looked at but a lot lot cheaper, dodnt think they were less than 8mHi does anyone own this model as we saw one in Spain and liked the idea and concept of the model.
also carthago as a brand any views please. (Good or bad)