Caravan club Email - What do you think

[Spriddler]

TBH... the App is supposed to be for your benefit... to auto alert you you've been within a certain distance for a certain time period of someone who has tested positive.

I don't have a Smartphone but I assume the system is effective only if the person tested positive bothers to inform the app, or does the app 'talk' to a national database of the people who have tesed positive?

 

[maison]

I don’t see much to complain about in the e-mail. They are following the Government guidelines.

It does seem that a few people are looking for loopholes to allow them to travel where-ever and whenever they like. Here in Wales travel outside our own county boundary is not just discouraged, it is illegal.

 

[Garfields]

Just read it again
I don’t like them forcing us to use the nhs track and trace app

Their site their rules
Personally don't have an issue with the apps
I don't have any issues with other peoples beliefs or principles as long as they agree that my ones are the correct ones

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Common sense to me.
Why would you want to leave a tier 3 area to go elsewhere and risk contributing to putting that area into tier 3 also.
Only the selfish or brain dead would consider it.

Totally agree that it’s common sense not to

 

[Cheshirecat57]

I don’t see much to complain about in the e-mail. They are following the Government guidelines.

It does seem that a few people are looking for loopholes to allow them to travel where-ever and whenever they like. Here in Wales travel outside our own county boundary is not just discouraged, it is illegal.

Nothing to complain about the e mail, but I was pointing out to hymermick ( and any others viewing) that the CAMC mail doesn't say you MUSN’T travel it says you SHOULDN’T.
The Welsh rulings are different and forbid movement...but I agree would be better for all if one is in a very high risk area not to travel
Not looking for loopholes

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[2x2camper]

I don't understand why they want you to scan the NHS app. Surely that is for indoor situations not 6m distanced , at least, on a campsite.

Or is this just mission creep.

 

[Langtoftlad]

I don't have a Smartphone but I assume the system is effective only if the person tested positive bothers to inform the app, or does the app 'talk' to a national database of the people who have tesed positive?

No... your phone talks to other phones, via Bluetooth. That data is on your phone. If you record a positive test, it will check the data on your phone... if it sees someone who has been within a certain distance for a specified time, it will alert those contacts.

This is a record of the polling my phone has done... it goes back 14 days

...and this is the result of the 12.11 poll...

No idea what most of it means but hopefully the 0 number of matches is the significant point... and that the NHS App is ticking along in the background.

 

[Jenben]

I don't understand why they want you to scan the NHS app. Surely that is for indoor situations not 6m distanced , at least, on a campsite.

Or is this just mission creep.

As some people who are on the site may choose to use the showers etc .

 

[2x2camper]

As some people who are on the site may choose to use the showers etc .

THen surely you should be scanning into the toilets not the whole campsite.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Front page of the App...

If you've installed the app, a gone for a test... why wouldn't you enter the result?

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[Langtoftlad]

As some people who are on the site may choose to use the showers etc .

Or maybe the wardens, as you check in, might test positive...

 

[Langtoftlad]

I am not likely to go to France or Germany so that argument is not valid

For you personally perhaps... but a government cannot cater for every individual circumstance. Logistics dictate a broad brush.

 

[cornish boy]

I don't understand why they want you to scan the NHS app. Surely that is for indoor situations not 6m distanced , at least, on a campsite.

Or is this just mission creep.

Guess if you tested positive after being on a site, the smart thing to do would be to make the wardens aware that they had come into contact with you and then could manage the situation to ensure they didn't risk infecting everyone else who thens turns up to book in over the following days. The app would appear to help speed up the cascade of the information.

Or would that be mission creep...

 

[Cal54]

A genuine question here - is it acceptable to travel from one high risk area, Lancashire, to an adjacent high risk area, Merseyside? I ask because I have a friend who lives close to the boundary, lives in one and shops in the other! Also would the CMC consider it unacceptable to visit their sites with the same criteria? I’m not looking for an argument about whether it’s right or wrong, just trying to get my head around what I can/ can’t do!!!
Regards from Confused of Lancashire!!

 

[SpeedyDux]

The best way to resolve such questions is to ask yourself:

What would the Lone Ranger do?

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[Tanya_and_Mick]

What would the Lone Ranger do?

Ask his mate Tonto...

 

[Puddleduck]

A genuine question here - is it acceptable to travel from one high risk area, Lancashire, to an adjacent high risk area, Merseyside? I ask because I have a friend who lives close to the boundary, lives in one and shops in the other! Also would the CMC consider it unacceptable to visit their sites with the same criteria? I’m not looking for an argument about whether it’s right or wrong, just trying to get my head around what I can/ can’t do!!!
Regards from Confused of Lancashire!!☹

We live in an area that has not had a case in weeks. The only cases we are aware of were in one family and immediately contained. We have to have our shopping delivered from an area that is in tier 2 - if we go shopping we have to go to a higher risk area. We are only very low risk due to rural isolation.

 

[138go]

Personally, I think the responsible thing to do at present is to stay put.

 

[maison]

Nothing to complain about the e mail, but I was pointing out to hymermick ( and any others viewing) that the CAMC mail doesn't say you MUSN’T travel it says you SHOULDN’T.
The Welsh rulings are different and forbid movement...but I agree would be better for all if one is in a very high risk area not to travel
Not looking for loopholes

Sorry, the comment wasn’t directed at you, it was a comment regarding the population in general, having seen pictures on the TV news.

 

[The Coops]

Exactly that!

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[RobbyMClark]

Genuine question! Just wondering what other funsters make of this email from caravan and motorhome club- Are they caring for members or being OTT? Given of course that even tier 3 are not banned from travel, only “advised”

Members and guests who reside in a Local Alert level of Very High should not travel to any of the Club’s other campsites whilst the alert is in place but can continue to stay at a campsite within their own very high alert area.

Please also be aware that on arrival at one of our campsites that is within a very high alert area, our sites teams have been asked to monitor home address details to ensure we are keeping all of our guests as safe as possible.
and guests who reside in a Local Alert level of Very High should not travel to any of the Club’s other campsites whilst the alert is in place but can continue to stay at a campsite within their own very high alert area.

Please also be aware that on arrival at one of our campsites that is within a very high alert area, our sites teams have been asked to monitor home address details to ensure we are keeping all of our guests as safe as possible.

Think the club is doing their best in troubled times.

Was booked to go to Ravenglass cc site this weekend but when Merseyside went to tier 3 cancelled and booked Wirral Country Park with cmc as wanted 2 nights away from home and its in same area. Made booking 3 hrs later got e-mail telling me that site now shut till end of year .
Stayed at home and reading about some inconsiderate imho wanting to travel here and there as "okay we are all enclosed and not doing anything when there". Well why go?

 

[Minxy]

A genuine question here - is it acceptable to travel from one high risk area, Lancashire, to an adjacent high risk area, Merseyside? I ask because I have a friend who lives close to the boundary, lives in one and shops in the other! Also would the CMC consider it unacceptable to visit their sites with the same criteria? I’m not looking for an argument about whether it’s right or wrong, just trying to get my head around what I can/ can’t do!!!
Regards from Confused of Lancashire!!☹

Yes, if you go from the a higher risk area to and adjacent higher risk area (ie the same level) there doesn't appear to be any issues, what you shouldn't do is travel through a lower risk area to get to another higher risk area. That's my understanding anyway.

 

[Cal54]

Thanks for that Mel Minxy Girl, that makes absolute sense to me, and suits us fine. Merseyside and Lancashire are adjacent therefore no other areas to get in the way !

 

[Wack]

I don’t see much to complain about in the e-mail. They are following the Government guidelines.

It does seem that a few people are looking for loopholes to allow them to travel where-ever and whenever they like. Here in Wales travel outside our own county boundary is not just discouraged, it is illegal.

They don't need loopholes , in England it's advised not to travel regardless of the tier you're in no banned or illegal

Buses round here are empty , they're still driving the route because the council says they have to but there's nobody on them

The tube in London is rammed , you can't tell me London has less cases than Liverpool, I don't believe it , we're being lied to.

You're not going into infect anyone driving to a campsite, visiting a shop wearing a mask , staying a few days then driving back

I went to a car boot sale this morning, while they're still open i'll go wherever I like in England or anywhere else I feel like.

I'll comply with any law but advice , i'll take it on board then make my own decisions

 

[RidersofRohan]

Yes, if you go from the a higher risk area to and adjacent higher risk area (ie the same level) there doesn't appear to be any issues, what you shouldn't do is travel through a lower risk area to get to another higher risk area. That's my understanding anyway.

Ok we are booked onto Kendal CCC site on Tuesday. Kendal is in Cumbria tier 2, we are in West Yorks also tier 2. To travel there sat nav routes via M62 M61, M6, spending a lot of that in Lancashire tier 3 but travelling at 60mph. We could use the A65 and reduce our Lancashire exposure to a few miles of moorland. No chance of infecting anyone or being infected in Lancashire I would think.
Nowhere is in lock down, even level 3 places campsites are still open, so I don’t see a problem.

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[Abacist]

Reading this is like watching the Dirty Harry Movie

Do you feel lucky punk? Well do you!

The government either needs to get serious or let it run - at present they are trying to keep everyone happy and failing as there is too much insurrection. Crazy to have tier three areas with no bans on travel outside their areas! Well done to Wales for excluding them and I don't live in Wales.

 

[Gromett]

all members will be asked to register

You bolded the whole sentence. You should have just bolder this bit I think?

 

[Barclaybasher]

Take away the thought process...

Click the heels, right arm salute "Sieg Heil"..

Job done. ....

..

 

[Stuart]

Think the club is doing their best in troubled times.

Was booked to go to Ravenglass cc site this weekend but when Merseyside went to tier 3 cancelled and booked Wirral Country Park with cmc as wanted 2 nights away from home and its in same area. Made booking 3 hrs later got e-mail telling me that site now shut till end of year .
Stayed at home and reading about some inconsiderate imho wanting to travel here and there as "okay we are all enclosed and not doing anything when there". Well why go?

 

[Kirsten]

Just a small point- it is NOT. The NHS track n trace app.. you will find it is outsourced and they get the data from whoever runs the app ( and apparently so do others)

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