Can’t get my head around these Schengen 90/180 rules. May be something to do with age!

Bit off topic. But do any of you guys take the 90 to the wire and stay say 89 days. Or do you leave a few day or week to spare
 
Bit off topic. But do any of you guys take the 90 to the wire and stay say 89 days. Or do you leave a few day or week to spare
We usually do 87 depending on ferries.
 
Bit off topic. But do any of you guys take the 90 to the wire and stay say 89 days. Or do you leave a few day or week to spare
I stayed 76 days last trip which gives me the chance of travelling over to Croatia later if I choose to.
 
Cos of our job. Where plan to stay 88days when we go in December

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We have just had 2 weeks in kos greece and we would have been up to the wire of ninety days if we hadn't nipped across to Turkey for 3 days, thus giving ourselves a buffer if our flight is delayed tonight. Yammas
 
Have been trying to get my head around the Schengen 90/180 day rules but I give up. If there some one out there who could work out fo me if my next trip is legal!

From 11/01/22 and. 09/03/22. I spent 57 days in the Shengen area


Now planning a trip to France. From. 12/06/22. and. 20/07/22. I make it 38 days.

is this legal or not?

Thanking you in advance,

Colyboy
Be careful, 11/01/22 to 09/03/22 is 58 days as you have to count 11th Jan
And 12/06/22 to 20/07/22 is 39 days as you count 12th June
 
Bit off topic. But do any of you guys take the 90 to the wire and stay say 89 days. Or do you leave a few day or week to spare
To the wire - but we book a late evening ferry on the return trip and plan our penultimate stopover so that we could drive from there to the ferry in a oner. If we ever have a mechanical breakdown of medical emergency I will ensure that we have some documentation to show those nice people at French Border Control ( :giggle: ) - plus a copy of the original ferry booking to show that we did plan to leave Schengen within the alloted time.
 
Bit off topic. But do any of you guys take the 90 to the wire and stay say 89 days. Or do you leave a few day or week to spare
P.S. to my last - you could leave 2 or 3 weeks to spare and still have a problem Viz our funster whose Ducato blew up.
But it would be interesting to hear if anyone has, themsleves, run over the time limit for a perfectly valid reason - and what the attitude of the Authorities was.
 
P.S. to my last - you could leave 2 or 3 weeks to spare and still have a problem Viz our funster whose Ducato blew up.
But it would be interesting to hear if anyone has, themsleves, run over the time limit for a perfectly valid reason - and what the attitude of the Authorities was.
My understanding is that if you find yourself with a problem and know that you’re going to overstay, go to the local Marie and explain the situation and get authorisation to do so before you go to the port

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For me, I found a very easy solution, Grand dad was Irish, applied for Irish passport, WOW PEE got it, only problem (maybe not for some) have to send the wife back by Air, then carry on until she can catch up :)
 
For me, I found a very easy solution, Grand dad was Irish, applied for Irish passport, WOW PEE got it, only problem (maybe not for some) have to send the wife back by Air, then carry on until she can catch up :)
I don’t know if this is good news or bad but if you have an Irish passport and your wife has an English one, as long as she is travelling with you then she can stay as long as you can, and if you have to leave her in Schengen then her 90 days starts from when you leave :giggle:
 
I don’t know if this is good news or bad but if you have an Irish passport and your wife has an English one, as long as she is travelling with you then she can stay as long as you can, and if you have to leave her in Schengen then her 90 days starts from when you leave :giggle:
How sure are you on this? be great if true.
 
For me, I found a very easy solution, Grand dad was Irish, applied for Irish passport, WOW PEE got it, only problem (maybe not for some) have to send the wife back by Air, then carry on until she can catch up :)
A friend of ours was born in Belfast - so he applied for (and got) an EU passport.

My wife and I asked him to formally adopt us.

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How sure are you on this? be great if true.
Yes it is perfectly correct.When a non-eu spouse is travelling with an eu passport holder the 90 days do not count for them. If the eu passport holder leaves then as said the non eu persons 90 days start from then.
 
Have been trying to get my head around the Schengen 90/180 day rules but I give up. If there some one out there who could work out fo me if my next trip is legal!

From 11/01/22 and. 09/03/22. I spent 57 days in the Shengen area


Now planning a trip to France. From. 12/06/22. and. 20/07/22. I make it 38 days.

is this legal or not?

Thanking you in advance,

Colyboy
To the best of my knowledge, and fully expecting to be shot down in flames by more learned folk on here.....
11 January is both day#1 of 180 and the first day of your 90 day allowance therein. If use use more than 90 days before 10 July you will break the rules. If you head off on a journey that, up to 10 July is less than 90 days, you forfeit any unused days and begin another 90 within 180 day period from that date.
As Jim states in different words, it is only a matter of time until common sense prevails and 180 days in 365 in the Schenghen zone comes into being. I believe that after spending more than 180 days in 365 in any European country, even before Brexit, you were obliged to register for tax in that country. I imagine you could have sidestepped they as that could never prove that you remained in one country for that period of time.
Given the tragic state of affairs we are faced with at the moment I feel that the collective powers that be would be better served solving those than bothering about us motorhomers who are simply trying savour the delights and cultures of our neighbouring countries.
Safe and happy travels all

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Bit off topic. But do any of you guys take the 90 to the wire and stay say 89 days. Or do you leave a few day or week to spare
We keep 7 days spare as we have property in the zone and may need to visit for an emergency. It has not been an issue to date. I also hope that, should a pre-booked travel on our last permitted day be delayed for whatever legitimate reason, common sense would prevail and you would not be penalised.
 
My wife is an eighth German, do you think she can get dual residency!

Dual residency is not permitted under EU rules, although there is no formal proof of a UK Citizen of 'Residence' in UK, as it is not a concept of UK law for UK Citizens, although has some relevance for immigrants.

'Residency' does not allow exemption from 90/180 rule except in the EU country of Residence.

What would be needed is dual Citizenship, but doubtful in her case.
 
I don’t know if this is good news or bad but if you have an Irish passport and your wife has an English one, as long as she is travelling with you then she can stay as long as you can, and if you have to leave her in Schengen then her 90 days starts from when you leave :giggle:
Ah but perhaps he didn’t want her to know that. Lol.....
 

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