Sooo, what I'm getting from all this is, if you have a covenant on your property, the simplest solution is to pay a Hitman to take out the original builder ? 
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Our present house and some of our neighbours has a covenant restricting windows to the rear so as to not overlook the large house behind and uphill of us. It was lifted in most cases to enable windows to be inserted for a legal fee to cover the cost of addending the original deeds. Nothing was said about parking a motorhome which we do. But when the new large house owner wanted to build a 7 bedroom treble garage house in his garden, we all clubbed together to stop it using those same covenants against it. Council refused planning permission. We've yet to hear any more about it. Fingers crossed
No because the covenant might pass to “all successors in title” so you will have wasted your money!Sooo, what I'm getting from all this is, if you have a covenant on your property, the simplest solution is to pay a Hitman to take out the original builder ?
Apparently no one has the right to light, but I might be wrong .
a couple of years ago we went to a Redrow estate and I asked about parking the motorhome on the drive sales person said no caravans /motorhomes/ work vans are allowed on any of their sites so I asked what about taking the corner wall down and I will park it in MY garden the answer was still no so they didn't get my 350k .
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We have a similar covenant, but duely ignore it……unless it annoyed a neighbour who cares…
also includes vehicles with a MIRO of over 2.25t…..so thats most large 4x4s….
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House on wheels doesn't mention engine so hopefully that means a caravsn
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I would leave well alone unless someone complains, these restrictions are rarely enforced in my experience but if you draw it to someone's attention then you might get a specific ban.
Stopped us from buying a property on a new development. Motorhome not permitted!!
I am surprised that so many replies suggest what in effect is law breaking by ignoring the Covenant.
We do not like three out of the four covenants placed on our deeds BUT we do accept and abide by them and I strongly believe others should do the same.
Antisocial behavior of any sort is unacceptable so perhaps this thread is an indication as to why the general public is becoming more and more anti campervans/motorhomes.
We do not like three out of the four covenants placed on our deeds BUT we do accept and abide by them and I strongly believe others should do the same.
Antisocial behavior of any sort is unacceptable so perhaps this thread is an indication as to why the general public is becoming more and more anti campervans/motorhomes.
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Our next door neighbour is strange to say the least and has been very nasty with most residents of our hamlet. He is fencing his garden at present - he has not obtained planning consent and the fence is forward of the principal elevation and more than 2 metres high so we are all waiting until the work is complete and will object as individuals to the breach of planning. As the new fence restricts the line of sight for turning vehicles and will prevent emergency vehicles accessing his property I doubt retrospective permission will be granted. He called the planning officers "moronic idiots" last time he had dealings with them so they are unlikely to be sympathetic.
If he had the decency to speak with people rather than turn his back and walk away when spoken to then we would have found a solution for him. He is building the fence to keep his new dog in.
The whole issue may become moot by the end of the winter as a few good strong winds on his solid 2meter plus fence is likely to mean the fence doesn't stay in place long. He has been warned about the effect of the wind on a solid fence but has ignored the advice. If debris from his fence affects other residents' property there will be claims for damages.
You have the right to light but not to a view.
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Covenants are not law…..
and how does breaking them constitute anti-social behaviour?
no idea how and why you assume that the general public are anti MH? Maybe too much Jeremy Clarkson?
Agree, fences over 2m high need PP….
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pure snobbery
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Not so, see my post above re "building schemes"
Restrictive Covenants - Is there a Building Scheme? - Tanfield Chambers
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a house in possession of a large garden must be in want of development. However, even if planning permission can be obtained for the construction of a new cottage in the grounds, it is not uncommon to find a restrictive covenant registered against the...
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We have a covenant on our house saying any caravan or business van has to be parked behind the property line. As it was built in the 1950's there were no drives so people had to park on the road. There is also a Council Covenant that says no vehicle over 2m long can be parked on a road. We bought a piece of land from a neighbour and we have a nice parking area down the side of our house to put our motorhome on with access around the corner (we live on a corner).
The point I'm making is that if you tuck your van down the side, if that's where your drive is, so its out of sight of all but your neighbours opposite, you may get away with it.
The point I'm making is that if you tuck your van down the side, if that's where your drive is, so its out of sight of all but your neighbours opposite, you may get away with it.
We have a "No poultry/fowl" covenant on our deeds, I guess Jonny Peacock didn't get the memo !
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I would have sent a made up letter of complaint about said camper and sent a coppy to all the neigbours asking them to reply in writing hoping the same person who threatened my dog also replied and compared letters to try and determin who it was a long shot i know
Do you ever remember reading in the local press man mugged in unprevoked attack. generally they have pi,,ed someone off
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I think if its at the front of your propery you need permission for anything over 1m and the sides and rear is 1.8
but i may be wrong as i can only talk about my experience on putting in planning permision for a new build we have done
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OT but a right to natural light for apertures in a building is long established in English property law. See also the Prescription Act 1932 and Rights of Light Act 1959. You have to act quickly.
On the other hand, there is no legal right in a view, so anyone can block a view without payment of compensation. Which may seem unfair, because a good view adds a premium on the value of a house. A developer may "steal" your nice view with impunity, and reduce your house's market value, while the new development gains a corresponding premium on the selling price to reflect the bonus value of a nice view. Happens a lot. There is no legal remedy. I think that is unfair and deserves reform.
Your probably correct, i thought it was 6’ but guessed that they would have decimalised it to 2m..
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Difficult though, you give in to morons and bullies, they refused to do so, and I understand why. The couple who caused all the trouble ended up selling and moving after my FIL had his revenge, via the planning department...sometimes you have to play the long game....
As said above, it is the person with the benefit of the covenant who can enforce it. That is probably still the developer if they are onsite and the persons who they have sold to as their successors in title but it you'd need to check the document as to who has the benefit. The covenant does not just disappear as time goes on unless the document specifies a time limit. Nor will it disappear if the developer ceases to exist, if the covenant is for the benefit of others.
Some are more sensibly drafted - our house was built in the 1990's and specifies no caravans, motorhomes etc within view of anyone else in our little cul-de-sac. So we keep the moho in the garage. That does mean we can't have a huge one, but we wouldn't want a big'un anyway.
The covenants are there for a reason; our sparkly, well-loved moho's look gorgeous of course, but I doubt any of us would want to look out to a unloved, rotting one which has been abandoned in the corner of a garden or drive.
Some are more sensibly drafted - our house was built in the 1990's and specifies no caravans, motorhomes etc within view of anyone else in our little cul-de-sac. So we keep the moho in the garage. That does mean we can't have a huge one, but we wouldn't want a big'un anyway.
The covenants are there for a reason; our sparkly, well-loved moho's look gorgeous of course, but I doubt any of us would want to look out to a unloved, rotting one which has been abandoned in the corner of a garden or drive.
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All new housing developments have this covenant including mine. We have never had an issue and they are caravans in drives within the estate. I wouldn't ask questions and deal with any issues if you have contact which will only be if a neighbour complains. I doubt they will !
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We live on a modern estate - we knew about the covenant when we bought the house so we keep the Motorhome in storage. It doesn’t seem fair to set out to not abide by the covemant. When the van does come home I am always astonished at how massive it seems on the drive. I wouldn’t want to look at one out of my front window - why should my neighbours? My understanding is they are virtually unenforceable but I like a harmonious neighbourhood.
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I have a copy of the relevant regulations of Scotland and it is 2 metres except if it fronts a road or comes forward of the principal elevation where it is 1 m. There is also a subsection on where the height is to be measured from.
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I'm pretty sure it's the same in England too.
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I doubt there is any development these days that does not state no caravans, motorhomes, houses on wheels, trailers, boats, vans both with & without windows & private or commercial & nothing sign written, etc as covenants. Another we also had was no untaxed vehicles. No vehicles on sorn, no vehicles without mot. This was done specifically to deter banger racers from leaving the scrap on the trailer on the drive & working on it.
& I hope he is putting it up the right way round with the best side out & supports & posts inside? Even if it does have to come down
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