C1 provisional licence

[The Wino]

Downsizing and getting it re-registered is possibly going to be subject to the same admin delays.

Just an idea, probably of no interest, but do you have a friend with a C1 who could drive it to a campsite for you so you could at least get some use, otherwise I fear it's going to be a long, long time.

Personally I think it is disgraceful for a vendor not to check you can actually use the vehicle before taking your money - any reputable salesman knows the score.

Why should a vendor check your licence before selling the MH? Would you expect them to inspect everyone's licences!

 

[jongood]

Anyone whose ever dealt with DVLa will know they've not been fit for purpose for years. It's about time it was sorted out.

Which of course will affect everything about licencing at the DVLA - who already can't cope with the workload.

 

[jongood]

Why should a vendor check your licence before selling the MH? Would you expect them to inspect everyone's licences!

Yes actually. How on earth did the test drive happen? Are people foolish enough to buy vehicles without trying them.

 

[68c]

I think any increase will only be for battery vehicles. If they do increase the weight for all vehicles I am sure the lower tax rate for heavier vans will cease.

 

[rosalan]

Why should a vendor check your licence before selling the MH? Would you expect them to inspect everyone's licences!

While this may not be very helpful to the thread owner, you are quite correct. The seller wants to make a sale and sadly it is a case of caveat emptor (I think that is how you spell it) 'buyer beware' although while looking at an American motorhome at a show, I was asked if I had a C1 licence.

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[tonyidle]

Why should a vendor check your licence before selling the MH? Would you expect them to inspect everyone's licences!

They don't need to check anything - simply ask the question. IMO not asking comes close to selling something not fit for purpose.

 

[poppycamper]

bailey s aren't that heavy, are you sure you can't register and operate it at 3500kgs for now and don't carry as much water etc

Don't think that would work..... is it not max gross weight of vehicle and not actual weight that is relevant??? I.E. MGW over 3.5t =C1 license.

 

[TerryL]

Why should a vendor check your licence before selling the MH? Would you expect them to inspect everyone's licences!

Not because they should check you have a licence, but if they sell you something you cannot use shouldn't there be a case for a "not fit for purpose" claim?

 

[jongood]

Don't think that would work..... is it not max gross weight of vehicle and not actual weight that is relevant??? I.E. MGW over 3.5t =C1 license.

You can downplate as well as uplate. If its new you may be able to get the dealer to register it as 3500kgs. This would solve the OPs immediate problem but mean he wouldn't be able to use the normal payload until he had passed his test and then uplated. However as TerryL said if its a used one then it still needs DVLA. Its not ideal but strange times are these.

You can downplate as well as uplate. If its new you may be able to get the dealer to register it as 3500kgs. This would solve the OPs immediate problem but mean he wouldn't be able to use the normal payload until he had passed his test and then uplated. However as TerryL said if its a used one then it still needs DVLA. Its not ideal but strange times are these.

 

[jongood]

In other news the guardian are speculating about changes required to deal with the driver shortage. Could I suggest ditching the driver CPc

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[poppycamper]

Appreciate he can downplate as well as uplate. However apologys if i missread what you were saying.... You appeared to imply that even if vehicle registered as being over 3.5t he could legally drive it as long as he did not load it over 3.5t.

You can downplate as well as uplate. If its new you may be able to get the dealer to register it as 3500kgs. This would solve the OPs immediate problem but mean he wouldn't be able to use the normal payload until he had passed his test and then uplated. However as TerryL said if its a used one then it still needs DVLA. Its not ideal but strange times are these.

 

[jongood]

Appreciate he can downplate as well as uplate. However apologys if i missread what you were saying.... You appeared to imply that even if vehicle registered as being over 3.5t he could legally drive it as long as he did not load it over 3.5t.

No definitely not.
Downplating is not something I would normally advocate but I know from recent personal experience how dire DVLA are performing atm.

 

[Hoovie]

Hi and welcome. You don't need a CPC or tacho training. I have C+E because I regularly drive Artics.

1,If I was your age I would take a C not a C1 as I believe its pretty much the same cost but will mean if you ever decide to go bigger you will not be subject to the 7500kgs limit.

2 bailey s aren't that heavy, are you sure you can't register and operate it at 3500kgs for now and don't carry as much water etc?
Hth
Jon

That makes the most sense so the Motorhome can at least be enjoyed this year and then once licences sorted, upplate again Ok, it may be a bit restrictive and maybe might have to take the Motorhome AND a car on trips but better then camping on the driveway each weekend.

 

[The Wino]

They don't need to check anything - simply ask the question. IMO not asking comes close to selling something not fit for purpose.

I'm not so sure you could argue the same happens if you buy the wrong layout although in a way that's worse as it's harder to change than get a license. Theres also the test drive question and how did they get it home?. I don't think the op ever said they bought it unaware that they needed to upgrade their license just that it was proving more lengthy a process than they thought. You could hardly expect the vendor to check the length of wait at the DVLA

 

[Hoovie]

I understand that if you do a downplate - or uprate - with say SvTech, then you can operate at the new agreed plate numbers before you get the updated V5C back as long as you have requested the change and it is with DVLA to process (so send the forms in recorded/special delivery so you have proof).

As far as saying the Vendor should ensure the driver has the right license to drive the vehicle they are buying, it is not their job to police that, however they should make it clear that an 'upgraded' licence is a requirement so the buyer is aware (many may not be).
I recently (less than a month ago) sold my Campervan conversion and in the advert I stated the weight and also stated that a C1 or C license category would be required to drive it. If someone was to buy it without a C/C1, that would not be any of my business (as it happens, the buyers had the appropriate license).

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[tonyidle]

I'm not so sure you could argue the same happens if you buy the wrong layout although in a way that's worse as it's harder to change than get a license. Theres also the test drive question and how did they get it home?. I don't think the op ever said they bought it unaware that they needed to upgrade their license just that it was proving more lengthy a process than they thought. You could hardly expect the vendor to check the length of wait at the DVLA

Agreed but good practice at least would suggest making sure it could be driven away legally. As for dealer liability that would depend on the questions asked by the purchaser.