BT - New Charges in EU

[63720]

Dig deeper with BT and you will find this on page 132 of their T&C:

Fair use policy The EU Mobile Roaming regulations allow us to operate a fair use policy that applies in the following situations: Data Roaming When you’re data roaming in any of the destinations in the table above, if your SIM Only, Family SIM or Handset plan includes a data allowance of more than 50GB, and you use more than our fair use policy allowance of 50GB of data in one monthly billing period, we’re allowed to charge you a surcharge if you carry on roaming in these destinations. If you go over both our fair use policy and the data allowance for your SIM Only, Family Sim or Handset plan, we can charge you both the out of plan charge for data and the surcharge for breaking our fair use policy. We’ll warn you before you go over the fair use policy limit and when you reach the limit. The data roaming surcharges which may be applied are detailed here.

As always, the devil is in the detail.

Ok I see this, however with roam like home if I exceed my allowance either at home or anywhere else I have to pay. I understand that but if I don't there are no additional charges within the designated 47 countries unless I go over 50gb per month and they will warn me first.

 

[DumfriesDik]

50gb is one of the more generous allowances for sure.

But since leaving the EU it has become expensive, time consuming and challenging to get a decent data allowance.

 

[Mr David]

Strange after we were originally told there were no plans to reintroduce roaming charges I wonder if people traveling here from Europe pay for roaming and thinking about it if people travelling from NI do if visiting Ireland?

I have a Slovenian A1 phone number and with that number I can roam throughout the EU as if I was in Slovenia BUT I was told not to use it in uk because the roaming charges were prohibitive. So yes Europeans visiting uk now pay high or very high roaming charges.

 

[Richard n Ann]

We have a fair usage policy in place which applies to any plans with a data allowance of 20GB or more each month. If you use more than 15GB of your monthly allowance in one billing cycle when visiting a Roam Like at Home destination, you might have to pay a surcharge for any extra data usage.

and

Use data when in the UK or in a Roam Like at Home Band 1 destination

10p per MB

I used 16GB on plusnet last September. I do like to live dangerously
No charge.

 

[richard burkinshaw]

Everybody loses these EU free roaming privileges as contracts end. Another consequence of Brexit, like €1.17/£ rather than €1.35 the day before the vote. It's called democracy.

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[kevingarner]

We arrived in France on Thursday and I received this text from BT.

 

[Bolti]

We arrived in France on Thursday and I received this text from BT.

Am I reading that correctly? It works out at £114.20 /GB

 

[dunnah01]

Am I reading that correctly? It works out at £114.20 /GB

That's about the going rate now - or an extra £200 on my current 3 week holiday if I'd been with them and hadn't changed to Tesco, that's even with a satellite system to watch some telly.. - Can't seem to use much less than 50Gb/week unless trying which is just a PITA

 

[David Bradley]

Christ that ££/MB makes my Starlink seem good value !

 

[Bobbydaisy]

o2 customers have a monthly data limit of 25GB and will be charged £3.50 for each GB after that).You will get a text once you are reaching your limit and then have the option to buy a “bolt on” to cover you extra data if you want to. You can only use that service for periodic travel (like holidays or short breaks) in the Euro Zone. Otherwise they may charge you for using those services in the Euro Zone .Tesco are a virtual operator , they use O2’s network but you will have different T&C’s with your contract with them.

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[Clive Mott]

BT own EE who run the fastest network in the UK. Any new standard contracts with EE do not include free EU roaming.
BUT
O2 who underpin many providers such a Tesco and Gifgaf DO include free EU data roaming.
BUT
For a small aditional fee EE will offer the same which includes EU, America, Canada, Australia etc. As I have just renewed I can say do your research and then negotiate with EE if that is where you currently are. Its worth a few quid.

 

[Richard n Ann]

O² is Spanish owned by Telefonica so hopefully they won't incur extra costs for use in Spain

If you're getting charged for roaming just change networks, if plusnet even think about it, I'm gone

 

[Delboyarapaho]

Three have introduced a £2 per day charge for use in the EU but smarty (who use threes network) don’t charge . Both have a 12GB fair use limit.
We bought a lobster payg sim when we were in Spain recently. 70gb for 23 euros. Anyone interested pm me and I will send you a referral link. The sim has to be bought in Spain at one of their outlets the locations are on their website. Couldn’t be easier all English language including support

 

[Bobbydaisy]

O² is Spanish owned by Telefonica so hopefully they won't incur extra costs for use in Spain

If you're getting charged for roaming just change networks, if plusnet even think about it, I'm gone

50 /50 Telefonica and Virgin Media ( Liberty Global) maybe half price in Spain

 

[jongood]

Everybody loses these EU free roaming privileges as contracts end. Another consequence of Brexit, like €1.17/£ rather than €1.35 the day before the vote. It's called democracy.

We had a vote and eventually went with the decision. Most people got over it, or are your holiday plans more important than democracy?

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[The Wino]

We had a vote and eventually went with the decision. Most people got over it, or are your holiday plans more important than democracy?

I try and steer clear of discussing the vote on here but are you saying that no-one ought ever to criticise a democratic decision. That would be totally undemocratic!

 

[Skez]

We had a vote and eventually went with the decision. Most people got over it, or are your holiday plans more important than democracy?

A vote and it's outcome can be described as democratic if the voters are provided with full, accurate consequences of the outcome, whichever way it the vote goes. If not the electorate are making an uninformed and possibly emotional decision. Not one based on cold hard facts. In my opinion of course!!

 

[jongood]

A vote and it's outcome can be described as democratic if the voters are provided with full, accurate consequences of the outcome, whichever way it the vote goes. If not the electorate are making an uninformed and possibly emotional decision. Not one based on cold hard facts. In my opinion of course!!

I agree, with the last bit, people can rarely predict all the consequences of their decisions or actions with 100% accuracy. In the same way, who among the people trying to influence the electorate at the time were totally accurate? On either side.

But anyway back to roaming. When I bought my vodafone.es sim I was given a choice of amounts of data for different prices all of which had varying fair roaming limits for everywhere else except Roumania (no idea) but if I go into Portugal, I can only use 10gb of my 50 Spanish ones.

I believe I bought the same one a spanish person would but next time Im by a phone shop im going to go and re ask the question with that slant.

 

[sarumsteve]

Plusnet £7pcm 12gb and unlimited calls all roaming. Job done. Just coming to end of 4th week away in Europe and have used 6gb reading on line newspaper everyday, google mapping, researching places of interest and dtreaming some radio 5 live.

 

[Peregrinator]

We had a vote and eventually went with the decision. Most people got over it, or are your holiday plans more important than democracy?

Democracy? Vote? NO, Everyone did not go with the decision, people that did were lied to, with fake news, false promises, The truth was hidden, and every party had in their ranks traitors that deceived the public for payments in their back pocket, And they knew if the truth was told, it would have been a great majority that voted to stay in the EU, unlike the small majority that voted to leave.

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[63720]

Democracy? Vote? NO, Everyone did not go with the decision, people that did were lied to, with fake news, false promises, The truth was hidden, and every party had in their ranks traitors that deceived the public for payments in their back pocket, And they knew if the truth was told, it would have been a great majority that voted to stay in the EU, unlike the small majority that voted to leave.

Oh dear....

 

[jongood]

Democracy? Vote? NO, Everyone did not go with the decision, people that did were lied to, with fake news, false promises, The truth was hidden, and every party had in their ranks traitors that deceived the public for payments in their back pocket, And they knew if the truth was told, it would have been a great majority that voted to stay in the EU, unlike the small majority that voted to leave.

2 majorities in a binary vote then LOFL!

I can see how some were "confused" by the result

 

[Peregrinator]

2 majorities in a binary vote then LOFL!

I can see how some were "confused" by the result

If the truth was told, would have been just one majority, it would have been a great majority that voted to stay in the EU, Now we have this great mess, it's all breaking down.

 

[63720]

We both have BT mobiles with our broadband contract. It includes double data and Roam Like Home tariffs for phone, text and data. RLH is valid in 47 countries including most of the EU. This morning I phoned BT customer services to check on additional charges, I was told there are no additional charges unless I go over my RLH contract and certainly no increases or new tarrifs due to Brexit. Additional charges only apply when exceeding my contract and that applies whether I'm home or away. I didn't ask if it applies to new contracts as I'm not in the market for this. So to sum up there is no change to an existing contract.

 

[Ditcha]

We both have BT mobiles with our broadband contract. It includes double data and Roam Like Home tariffs for phone, text and data. RLH is valid in 47 countries including most of the EU. This morning I phoned BT customer services to check on additional charges, I was told there are no additional charges unless I go over my RLH contract and certainly no increases or new tarrifs due to Brexit. Additional charges only apply when exceeding my contract and that applies whether I'm home or away. I didn't ask if it applies to new contracts as I'm not in the market for this. So to sum up there is no change to an existing contract.

You forgot the £5 discount as well

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[busby]

I moved to Tesco from Three a year ago as 3 was totally zero signal in my house or anywhere in this part of Kent!! Three was fantastic in the US as it was all free including data. Racked up what would have been a huge bill when out and about.

Tesco still free to roam in all EU member states and the EEA countries. Just checked my bill online after using it across Europe to Northern Moravia and home via Austria... £0 on top of the £10 I pay a month.

But do they limit your data usage? BUSBY.

 

[jongood]

If the truth was told, would have been just one majority, it would have been a great majority that voted to stay in the EU, Now we have this great mess, it's all breaking down.

Its only possible to have 1 majority in a binary vote ( one with only 2 choices - for your benefit).

 

[InvictaMoto]

But do they limit your data usage? BUSBY.

I just sent a message on Twitter to Tesco Mobile and they replied: No, there isn't a limit on how much data you can use.

 

[InvictaMoto]

Its only possible to have 1 majority in a binary vote ( one with only 2 choices - for your benefit).

What else could the referendum ballot have said? It was a simple remain or leave vote. That the turnout was 72.2% shows that there was great interest but no one can know which way the 27.8% that sat on their arses (sick, lame and lazy as they called them at school) and couldn't be bothered to vote might have voted. Had 1,269,502 more people bothered to vote remain we'd still be in the EU today by a slim majority. They didn't.

Or had it been that close, another vote once we knew the deep sh*t we were going to be in....

 

[jongood]

What else could the referendum ballot have said? It was a simple remain or leave vote. That the turnout was 72.2% shows that there was great interest but no one can know which way the 27.8% that sat on their arses (sick, lame and lazy as they called them at school) and couldn't be bothered to vote might have voted. Had 1,269,502 more people bothered to vote remain we'd still be in the EU today by a slim majority. They didn't.

Or had it been that close, another vote once we knew the deep sh*t we were going to be in....

The issue is that Peregrinator stated that there were two majorities, and obviously this is not true.

Your suggestion that the dormant electorate would naturally have voted to remain is equally ludicrous.

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