Bet this called for clean underwear - campervan spins around

[rangi]

On the Foxton straight overtaking an idiot in a Mitzy Sigma. he decided to play silly buggers, speeding up or slowing down leaving me on the outside lane, and in the path of a Kenworth Semi and Trailer. Had a Tyre blow, left rear, I just turned into him, he didn't laugh then!!!
The Tyre was a Dunlop Aquajet, only had about a hundred miles on it.

 

[Realist]

That’s driving to fast and the drag from the HGV taught the driver a very harsh lesson.

 

[WillH]

TFF in my opinion and the wash from the van he overtook destabilised the motorhome.

 

[68c]

If he had been travelling 10mph slower it would have made zero difference.

When a tyre blows you cannot control it.

I was once blown of a road and into a ditch at no more than 30mph (I was waiting to overtake a lorry) when a rear Pirelli tyre blew. The tyre incidently was less than a quarter worn and I have avoided that brand ever since. I was in a full blown Audi Quattro four wheel drive with all the bells and bits but it might as well have been a Ford Anglia. No chance of keeping it straight and I was pushed across the road and off the other side.

It is nearly instantanious and there is almost no way that you can control it if it is a side wall that goes.

I saw a BL Metro many years ago go across three lanes and hit the centre reservation when his front tyre blew and he was probably only doing 60mph.

Now, if the guy was driving with worn out tyres that is a different matter and he deserves full blame.

 

[Paul and Val]

Surely some folk know how to control a blow out?

JJ

No.

The power of the blown side wall 'steers' the tyre in such a way that the driver has no chance to react. It is very different to a puncture.

If the same thing had happened to you (or me) we would not have done any better.

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[Paul and Val]

TFF in my opinion and the wash from the van he overtook destabilised the motorhome.

Bah humbug!

Watch the video. It is clearly in my opinion a blowout and almost impossible to control. I thought that the driver did very well inder the circumstances.

 

[bobnick]

I used to do them hand brake turn parking tricks years ago.

 

[Realist]

I’ve slowly looked at the video and at no point can I find any tyre debris on the road or being thrown if it was tyre blowout.

To me it looks like he’s past the HGV at speed and just past the lorry air pressure causes the van to swerve out of control.

 

[JJ]

No.

The power of the blown side wall 'steers' the tyre in such a way that the driver has no chance to react. It is very different to a puncture.

If the same thing had happened to you (or me) we would not have done any better.

If you say so...

...but there are many folk online giving advice on how to deal with a blow out.

I suppose they must all be mistaken.

JJ

 

[mitzimad]

I dont think it was a blow out seems to loose it well before the smoke starts on the outside rear
As I always say there are only two causes of accidents too fast or not looking where your going

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[Beemobile]

I can speak from experiance, I had a rear wheel blow out while passing a lorry convoy, I kept straight, second lorry in convoy flashed me in and I pulled up safely on the hard shoulder, whatever happened to the people concerned in the clip thank heaven dirty underwear was the only injury.

 

[Ledzep]

Van spins through 180deg on M40 (sorry don't know how to just show the video, so link to Daily Mail page)

Campervan spins around on the M40 outside Oxford

Truck driver Keiron Culley, 24, said he was left shaking for an hour after he watched a campervan spin out of control on the M40 outside Oxford when it blew a tyre.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Apart from driving slower what can prevent this type of event? I have heard you can have steel bands put on your wheels that prevent you loosing control. Does anyone have any experience of these?

 

[A S R]

Seemed to be going a tad quick if you ask me.
Plus it’s just another reason to have a tag axle!

 

[Viennese]

A girl driving a BMW spun in front of me going south on the M40. It was very frightening as she shot across into the fast lane. Luckily it was quiet and nothing hit her. I think of it every time I pass that spot.

 

[Beemobile]

To add to the above , I was driving my 1992 Talbot autotrail at the time, top speed 55 mph downhill 60, there was at the time, a big bang, the steering yanked at me, being an old van the steering was very heavy anyway, maybe the fresh water tank being full stabilised me a bit but I've had punctures in the car which were worse.

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[nicholsong]

I had a rear blow out on my RV after the inner tyre went flat and put all the load on the outer tyre, apart from the big bang it didn't effect the steering much.

I had a rear blowout on our Arto and had no problem controlling the steering but fortunately we were in roadworks with a 40mph speed limit and in a single inside lane. There was no real hard shoulder but there was gravelly hard standing just wide enough for me to pull clear of the lane, but nowhere to shelter, no barrier and a very steep rising embankment to steep to climb.

Geoff

 

[olley]

I had a rear blowout on our Arto and had no problem controlling the steering but fortunately we were in roadworks with a 40mph speed limit and in a single inside lane. There was no real hard shoulder but there was gravelly hard standing just wide enough for me to pull clear of the lane, but nowhere to shelter, no barrier and a very steep rising embankment to steep to climb.

Geoff

Mine was near Bury St Edmonds late evening on the busy A14, I pulled into a layby and a short while later cops turned up and escorted me to Tesco's, then he arranged that I could stay the night before leaving. Nice guy. Son in law rolled up the next morning after getting two new tyres in Ipswich, I lifted it on the jacks and we had them off, he then drove to a local tyre shop to get the new tyres fitted to the rims before we refitted them.

Everything was going swimmingly and then my daughter let Milly the cat out who immediately did a runner. We stayed an extra night but she didn't appear so I drove home, next evening I went back in the car and she came running out of the bushes. Bl**dy cats!

 

[Odd-no-more]

I had a rear tyre blow in my work T5, it was on the section of motorway from the M27 to the M3 on the left hand bend and I was doing 70. The van had a bit of a wobble but I had no real problem getting to the hard shoulder. The VW is front wheel drive that may help.

 

[MopedMan]

I'm amazed how people can determine what happened from a 6 sec clip. The only blow out I've ever had, I wasn't driving too fast, my tyres had only done 2000 miles and were at the correct pressure, I didn't have a medical problem. What I did have was a 4" piece of sharp metal go right through the sidewall of my tyre. Accidents happen.

 

[Pausim]

I'm amazed how people can determine what happened from a 6 sec clip.

The lorry driver being overtaken reported a loud bang and at first thought one of his tyres had blown.

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[MopedMan]

"The lorry driver being overtaken reported a loud bang and at first thought one of his tyres had blown."

Yes, I read and understood that.
It was the analysis of the cause of the blowout that surprised me. Pure speculation.

 

[Paul and Val]

I’ve slowly looked at the video and at no point can I find any tyre debris on the road or being thrown if it was tyre blowout.

To me it looks like he’s past the HGV at speed and just past the lorry air pressure causes the van to swerve out of control.

Look how far down the vehicle is at the back. It could be that the suspension had collapsed. I thought that the driver did very well actually. He steered into the slide and you can't do much more.

I certainly have never seen any vehicle get blown around like that by passing or being passed by a lorry. The thing moved metres across and it would not have been the first lorry that he had passed. Only a yacht would have behaved like that.

As for the superb drivers above who tell us tales of courage and high driving skills above and having no trouble with blowouts, my comments about blow outs being impossible to control do of course depend on the type and seriousness of the blowout. It may be that some of the comments are confusing a blow out with a sudden loss of pressure. The two are very different indeed. When a side wall blows the tyre tread in effect turns direction and there is no way that it can really be controlled.

Mind you I am only a normal driver not like some of the world class rally drivers above. As I say I was blown off the road in an AUDI Quattro with huge standard tyres and four wheel drive at only 30mph. I went into a ditch and hardly had time to turn the wheel! It is a shame that one of the superheros above was not driving!

I was in Sheerwood forrest many years ago watching the RAC rally and saw the great Michelle Mouton (also in an AUDI Quattro go into a ditch and turn over when a front left hand tyre blew and half come off the rim. The difference was that once pushed back over she finished the stage on three wheels. I woulod not have suggested that the camper van continue in the same way however!

Mind you I trnd to give far less credence to the impolite fellows drive slowly all the time and blame everything on speed as a first immediate comment. I think in another current thread that deals with the idiots driving at 50mph on the motorway that I commented that they should be hung by the side of the road as a warning to others;.

Jolly good idea I think!

Safe driving!

 

[bigwood]

As a matter of interest was the owner of the motorhome a forum user, one of us.
If it they are my thoughts go out to you it must have been a scary ride.

 

[simplyjimbo]

As a Police Traffic Officer before retiring, we were aware that a rear wheel blow out is actually more likely to be difficult to control than a front one, as the wheel circumference becomes smaller and the back of the vehicle will try to overtake the front, causing the vehicle to invariably spin if it happens at speed.

 

[steve69]

These guys are friends of mine. They were coming to meet me at Malvern CMCC when I got an email from them saying what had happened.
Shaken but not stirred as they say. Still waiting to hear from them again after they have sorted the whole business out.

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[Pausim]

These guys are friends of mine. They were coming to meet me at Malvern CMCC when I got an email from them saying what had happened.
Shaken but not stirred as they say. Still waiting to hear from them again after they have sorted the whole business out.

Very glad to hear they are only shaken. Could easily have been so much worse.

 

[steve69]

As a Police Traffic Officer before retiring, we were aware that a rear wheel blow out is actually more likely to be difficult to control than a front one, as the wheel circumference becomes smaller and the back of the vehicle will try to overtake the front, causing the vehicle to invariably spin if it happens at speed.

i would have though a front tyre blow out would be worse. I had a rear tyre blowout a couple of years ago in France at about 60mph. There as just a loud bang and very juddery steering as i realised what had happened. The van stayed in a straight line as i drew to a halt and managed to change the wheel. Luckily the motorway was quiet at that time.

 

[Realist]

Well bottom line is glad all is well as the van can be repaired or replaced.

 

[steve69]

Well bottom line is glad all is well as the van can be repaired or replaced.

No, the vans a write-off apparently (so my friends who were driving it say)

 

[Realist]

Hence the replaced.

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