Best night security camera please (theft again)

[GMLS]

I've recently stumbled across this guy on youtube who reviewed what seemed to be decent system

 

[Langtoftlad]

Friends of mine have clubbed together to form an "estate" Facebook group where they share their CCTV... triggering others to check their footage...
Recently, a scroat was filmed, trying to break into householders' vehicles... but he had his hood up & sunglasses [at night]... so no ID... but a nearby, but not next door, neighbour checked their cameras and said scroat was recorded with hood down & full face... enough for the Police to recognise, to pick him up & charge .

An example of Social Media being used for good.

 

[TheBig1]

I caught somebody red handed trying to get in my daughter's car last week. Turns out she is an alcoholic with mental issues, lives a few doors down from my daughter. I put the fear of God into her and if caught again will take it to the police

 

[Hollyberry]

PLEASE can you not move. These bustards will never change.

Ihave tomove to what I guess may be a not nicearea in order to help family.. Your posts scare me.

Sending you and your wife a HUGE hug.

Trouble is, Joy, you can live in the nicest area and the thieving scrotes will go there for the nicest cars, equipment in sheds and garages etc....Lots of lights, a ding- dong type beam thingy and cameras if affordable.
Years ago American friends told me if you’re upstairs and you think someone is outside at your car, trying your house doors or windows, put on all the lights, open upstairs windows and lob something cheap out that will smash and make a noise.

 

[TheBig1]

Trouble is, Joy, you can live in the nicest area and the thieving scrotes will go there for the nicest cars, equipment in sheds and garages etc....Lots of lights, a ding- dong type beam thingy and cameras if affordable.
Years ago American friends told me if you’re upstairs and you think someone is outside at your car, trying your house doors or windows, put on all the lights, open upstairs windows and lob something cheap out that will smash and make a noise.

or if in America, shoot the thieving bastard from the bedroom window

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[EuroTrotters]

PLEASE can you not move. These bustards will never change.

Ihave tomove to what I guess may be a not nicearea in order to help family.. Your posts scare me.

Sending you and your wife a HUGE hug.

But, despite its issues it’s our castle. Why should i? .

Our two youngest daughters are in and out of the Middle East with their careers.

But my eldest daughter, her husband and our three lovely grandchildren live locally and we are very close.

Otherwise I would base us in Javea full time. Where I feel much safer.

 

[EuroTrotters]

or if in America, shoot the thieving bastard from the bedroom window

I’ve thought about buying a flare !

 

[GAVLAD]

Just read this thread and sorry to hear this.
I once left my car unlocked and the following morning, got in and noticed the ash tray missing. I had £13 in pound coins in it for the car park machine. Gone. But they’d left more expensive items - child seat, sun glasses etc etc.
I had Cctv so played it back. 2 opportunists trying doors - they opened mine, looked up saw camera infra red and walked away. Then casually walked back 2mins later with their cap gown and scarf over face and climbed in my car.
Trouble is these types fall into 2 categories. Thick - those who don’t cover their face and cunningly thick - those that cover their face.
You can spend all you want on expensive cameras but no camera will recognise someone with their face covered.
What I would do is take the best still image you have of them.
Set up a Facebook page not showing your name or photos and post it on there and then share it with as many community pages in your area.
Someone will recognise them.
Also chances are your neighbours might have captured a better image.
They’ll be recognised by the police as they’ll be regulars.
The trouble is that NOTHING will be fine to them when they do catch them.

Btw I found my ash tray they’d emptied the money and threw it over a wall.

 

[gus-lopez]

open upstairs windows and lob something cheap out that will smash and make a noise.

It is called a hand grenade.

I’ve thought about buying a flare !

Trouble is like , pepper spray, it comes under gun legislation so needs a licence . so you might as well shoot them.

 

[34127]

Every time I read posts like this I look at installing security camera but then struggle to find one with good recommendations. Everyone I look at has mixed reviews and all seem to be criticised for poor quality recording with pictures not good enough to identify faces.
So, questions are - what should I be fitting, should it be hard wired or will wireless be okay. Any suggestions appreciated.

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[EuroTrotters]

The way I see it, career criminals (Smack Rats, Scum Bags, Low Life).

When they get caught (Providing the feds don;t scare them off with the sirens) it costs thousands of pounds to process them.

I could not get through to the Police. So my wife has filled out an online form. So far no Contact.

I have tweeted the local Police and asked them to follow me so I can send them a direct message. No response (Maybe I should email them and threaten to shoot the (include lots of racists words) to see if the reply)).

Many years ago, my pal was a member of a gun club and we both had air rifles. If I still had it, I would not hesitate to fire it at them. They are on my Land, My Property, entered my vehicle and stole my belongings. Fed up of it.

They get caught, spend some time at one of her Majesty's hotels. Play some pool, deal some spice and spend time at the gym with their mates. Get looked after better then most of our old folk in care homes. Then allowed back out to Murder, rob, mug and rape again.

 

[EuroTrotters]

One of 4 new cameras added

 

[Welsh duo]

Looks like a good image, what system did you install?

 

[Jim]

One of 4 new cameras addedView attachment 331823

Nice quality, but too high. Hopefully some of the others are much lower so you have a good chance if identifying scumbags

 

[Richard n Ann]

Every time I read posts like this I look at installing security camera but then struggle to find one with good recommendations. Everyone I look at has mixed reviews and all seem to be criticised for poor quality recording with pictures not good enough to identify faces.
So, questions are - what should I be fitting, should it be hard wired or will wireless be okay. Any suggestions appreciated.

Nest get good reviews but aren't cheap and need a power supply at the camera.

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[EuroTrotters]

Looks like a good image, what system did you install?

It’s a WiFi IP camera

Floureon

 

[EuroTrotters]

Nice quality, but too high. Hopefully some of the others are much lower so you have a good chance if identifying scumbags

Yes, the others are 5mp and going lower

 

[HandyAndy]

If you are home I find the "broken beam" alarm very useful for who is walking round the property.
Lunch time over so i'll have to link later ?

 

[jezport]

I'm looking at updating my cctv. Have got wifi cameras and the quality is not great and occasionally I find one offline although it still records to the cloud storage.
I'm thinking of going for a wired system with 6 cameras that will give good night vision. So looking for suggestions.

 

[HandyAndy]

Home now so I'll start off with the outdoor (waterproof)CCTV I have. Not the cheapest that's for sure but 4K Ultra HD true detect cameras so they don't keep bloody going off every time the wind blows a plant around (True detect means they operate on both Infrared "heat source" AND motion detection.. both of which have to be activated to trigger the alarm notification to your mobile and recording of the footage.. Much much better quality than 1080 HD stuff (already have a few of those cameras around the house and they are crap compared to this new 4K Ultra HD setup.
It's a Swann 5580 DVR system connected to a free app called Home safe view.
The app pushes notifications of alarms and triggers to your phone so you can review the live footage (if you have a decent phone signal or wifi link) led in bed or on holiday in the middle of nowhere.

Swann DVR-5580 8 Channel Ultra HD 4K - 4 Camera True Detect CCTV Kit | SWDVK-855804-UK | Safe.co.uk

The broken beam alarm that I have for the driveway that points directly at the side of the MH is this one on Amazon.
Amazon product ASIN B01GE4LFW2
Now that one you DO have to point at something that doesn't move about in the wind or it will go off, a wall or the side of the house or Motorhome seems to work perfectly for me. The sensor is battery operated and can be plonked anywhere. Range is pretty damn good, I tried it right down the end of the drive by the gate and put the receiver in the kitchen, worked a treat but since moved it closer to the cars as there were too many plants and bushes down the drive..
(bought mine in 2017) the alarm box is powered by one of those 240v >12v converters you just plug in the wall on a lead.

And finally for the garage I have a standalone IP camera inside the garage (not waterproof)
This is remotely controlled by an app called Eye4, this one again alarm (motion) triggers to my smart phones EMAIL. I can pan tilt and zoom this little sucker around to look in different directions via the smart phone but I do leave it pointing towards a wall as moving shadows from clouds / sunlight tend to activate it. Had this one years, and is powered by the USB port on one of my 240v facia sockets and linked back to my router in the house via wifi.. This one also has sound..
Quite like this one and it's a shame because it has some downsides.
It's not waterproof so can't be placed outside
It can't look through windows at night as the Infrared sensors just bounce the glare off the glass and white the lens out (but does provide great 0 LUX (black as the ace of spades) performance in the garage in the right environment.)
The video is recorded directly on the Micro SD card in the back of the camera, so if the thief spots the camera and nicks it, they also nick the footage.
This one is no longer available by the looks of it but there are a thousand others to choose from that do the same thing..

Amazon product ASIN B01FDHE79E
Hope that helps.

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[Ivory55]

Nice quality, but too high. Hopefully some of the others are much lower so you have a good chance if identifying scumbags

I guess it’s a trade off of being high enough that they can not spray paint on the lenses, to low enough to get a good image of them.

 

[Oldbob]

Amazon product ASIN B017LTJAL2
Try these. Good fun if nothing else, and it did stop the p*k*ys nicking stuff.

 

[EuroTrotters]

If you are home I find the "broken beam" alarm very useful for who is walking round the property.
Lunch time over so i'll have to link later ?

Can be set to alert by an alarm/app (pyronix)

 

[jezport]

Home now so I'll start off with the outdoor (waterproof)CCTV I have. Not the cheapest that's for sure but 4K Ultra HD true detect cameras so they don't keep bloody going off every time the wind blows a plant around (True detect means they operate on both Infrared "heat source" AND motion detection.. both of which have to be activated to trigger the alarm notification to your mobile and recording of the footage.. Much much better quality than 1080 HD stuff (already have a few of those cameras around the house and they are crap compared to this new 4K Ultra HD setup.
It's a Swann 5580 DVR system connected to a free app called Home safe view.
The app pushes notifications of alarms and triggers to your phone so you can review the live footage (if you have a decent phone signal or wifi link) led in bed or on holiday in the middle of nowhere.

Swann DVR-5580 8 Channel Ultra HD 4K - 4 Camera True Detect CCTV Kit | SWDVK-855804-UK | Safe.co.uk

The broken beam alarm that I have for the driveway that points directly at the side of the MH is this one on Amazon.
Amazon product ASIN B01GE4LFW2
Now that one you DO have to point at something that doesn't move about in the wind or it will go off, a wall or the side of the house or Motorhome seems to work perfectly for me. The sensor is battery operated and can be plonked anywhere. Range is pretty damn good, I tried it right down the end of the drive by the gate and put the receiver in the kitchen, worked a treat but since moved it closer to the cars as there were too many plants and bushes down the drive..
(bought mine in 2017) the alarm box is powered by one of those 240v >12v converters you just plug in the wall on a lead.

And finally for the garage I have a standalone IP camera inside the garage (not waterproof)
This is remotely controlled by an app called Eye4, this one again alarm (motion) triggers to my smart phones EMAIL. I can pan tilt and zoom this little sucker around to look in different directions via the smart phone but I do leave it pointing towards a wall as moving shadows from clouds / sunlight tend to activate it. Had this one years, and is powered by the USB port on one of my 240v facia sockets and linked back to my router in the house via wifi.. This one also has sound..
Quite like this one and it's a shame because it has some downsides.
It's not waterproof so can't be placed outside
It can't look through windows at night as the Infrared sensors just bounce the glare off the glass and white the lens out (but does provide great 0 LUX (black as the ace of spades) performance in the garage in the right environment.)
The video is recorded directly on the Micro SD card in the back of the camera, so if the thief spots the camera and nicks it, they also nick the footage.
This one is no longer available by the looks of it but there are a thousand others to choose from that do the same thing..

Amazon product ASIN B01FDHE79E
Hope that helps.

Does your cctv give colour nightvision? And can you view the cameras on smart networked TVs?

 

[HandyAndy]

Not colour night vision no.

As for the TV I think you need google assistant or Chromecast to do it but yes. ( although I have a smart TV that is linked into the same router / network that the CCTV is on) I haven't looked into whether I can get direct access without either of those two things.

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