Battery Master Alternative ??
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I am surprised you couldn’t find instructions.
Just fitted one to my van .
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Just fitted one to my van .
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There has been a product recall on the CBE CSB2 for posing a risk of fire with some of them.
Product Recall: CBE CSB2 / CSB2-LT Battery Chargers (2208-0209)
Product recall for CBE CSB2 / CSB2-LT Battery Chargers posing a risk of fire as the device can be damaged by voltage peaks in the vehicle environment and overheats.
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There has been a product recall on the CBE CSB2 for posing a risk of fire with some of them.
Product Recall: CBE CSB2 / CSB2-LT Battery Chargers (2208-0209)
Product recall for CBE CSB2 / CSB2-LT Battery Chargers posing a risk of fire as the device can be damaged by voltage peaks in the vehicle environment and overheats.www.gov.uk
Yes and the batch serial numbers were documented and the recall put in place.
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But are all the sellers aware of the recall, as I bet you not all of those on the recall have been accounted for and returned and is a punter that's going to purchase one remotely aware of the recall?
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All purchases made through eBay have been followed up and the buyers contacted and informed. Including those with unaffected units b ing made aware of it.
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Interesting that you have that information? and what about other selling outlets that have stock, you appear to assume a lot.
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Where do you get the idea I’m assuming anything? I’m just stating the process that eBay have adopted for sales of that item through that platform, nothing about any other outlets - I might even add that you appear to be assuming a lot on my behalf. 
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We stock them (purely for our customers to make comparison which is vastly superior
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There isn't one that does the "same" job.
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Where do you get the idea I’m assuming anything? I’m just stating the process that eBay have adopted for sales of that item through that platform, nothing about any other outlets - I might even add that you appear to be assuming a lot on my behalf.
You may well state the process that eBay has adopted providing that process is followed, sorry, but I do not have that unwavering faith in all eBay sellers or those in the wider world.
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Unwavering faith - moi? They call me Mr Sceptical around these parts!
For information, the notification and link to the U.K. recall notice came from eBay themselves and not any seller/reseller. So whatever metric or algorithms they used to track down buyers of units (affect by the recall or not) appeared to work well.
For information, the notification and link to the U.K. recall notice came from eBay themselves and not any seller/reseller. So whatever metric or algorithms they used to track down buyers of units (affect by the recall or not) appeared to work well.
Stick with the Batterymaster, it really works and there are only 2 wires to connect what could be harder ?
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Have you looked at the Ablemail AMT12-2, can be setup pretty much any way you want.
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The AMT12-2 has many names Trickle Charger, Battery Maintainer, Battery Saver, Reverse Charger, Top Up Charger, Battery Equaliser, but its purpose is to keep a Source / Vehicle Battery charged & protected from damage during prolonged periods of Vehicle, Boat & Motorhome inactivity or storage...
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If you buy one from eddievanbitz I am sure they will tell you where and how to fit it. They did for me!
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Mine looks like it would be pretty waterproof.
Definitely
, the build quality is excellent. Yes, definitely, but you also have the option to change the configuration.
Well that's not very long for the majority of members
(sorry couldn't resist)Definitely not the same, but in answer to the original question...
Yes, it is definitely a reasonable alternative to a Battery Master.
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.Well that's not very long for the majority of members
Yes - lifetime of what ?
How old is Eddie VanBitz ?
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Yes, that's what I had hoped, but here's their response on 9th Sept 2022:
""Good morning,
The Battery Master is suitable for most vehicles but the installation process varies from vehicle to vehicle. Without looking at the vehicles specifications and how everything is wired we would not be able to provide an answer.
Kindest regards
Ash Percival
General Manager""
So that's why I'm seeking an alternative !
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Looks to be a pretty straightforward and logical answer to me, why would you expect them to know the in's and out's of your specific vehicle and its wiring with the myriad of different MH on the road.
The instructions supplied with a Battery Master are ample to successfully install the unit by Mr Average.
You are likely to get a bit of a shock if you buy an alternative and it does not give you specific instructions to suit your vehicle.
Send him a photo of your electrics and I am sure he will advise you.
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Oooooo! That will cause the markets to crash!
Well, no reputable business is going to sell you something with vehicle specific instructions to cover all motorhomes over the last forty to fifty years, its a cottage industry at best and even the larger converters change wiring and spec on a whim!
MHFun sell it for sixty five quid, so you'll appreciate that the profit margin isn't great! however, send us some pictures of where you "think" you could install it, we'd normally say that whilst you should still check everything yourself and satisfy yourself that what your doing is "safe" we could see no reason why the suggested installation wouldn't work. We cannot write War and Peace as an answer covering all bases for a vehicle we have never seen.
As you only posted our response to the email, I don't know what information you offered as we only have half a story.
There does comes a point where if you simply don't understand or haven't a clue how to go about installing a product, a product that only has three wires to connect, designed with auto resetting internal fusing, sometimes we are deliberately vague as we simply don't really wish to get involved.
Shock horror, we as many business's do don't have to sell or offer a service if we think that the product is beyond the potential customer in that the said customer won't understand the product, get frustrated with it and end up slagging us/the product off, or we have dealt in the past and their a knob or the person is a knob before we have done any work so unlikely to improved once they have the exalted status as "paying customer"
All that being said there are only three wires on it so most people can cope with the installation following the on line instructions
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It is a great product we sell thousands of them, I have absolutely no problem with people not wishing to buy one as we are an installation company not a mail order company, and we mainly supply them trade to many dealers and solar companies. Ultimately offering an in depth technical assistance help line fly's in the face of our installation service for those that find three wires daunting.
That being said, lets put our money where our mouth is? You have stated that your looking for an alternative to the Van Bitz Battery Master as we didn't offer a hand holding email service! Send me your name and address and Van Bitz will send you a Battery Master free of charge and "if" you can't mange to install it following the helpful information on the links, post a picture of your fuse board etc and I'll talk you through installing it!
Of course you may be so aggrieved with such a rude email that you'll decline my offer and look elsewhere for a similar product!
Sterling make one, buy one of those and phone us Charles Sterling for a nice chat
EDIT: I have found your enquiry:- " Hi
can the battery master be installed along side existing (EBL99) chargers and wiring without modifications pls ?"
Hardly a lot for us to go on!
Surely that is the same reply as any other reputable supplier of a device that fits between your power in and the batteries.
No two motorhome manufactures are the same, so there is no 'standard' fitting instructions.
However with the instructions given in post #2 I'm sure any competent auto-electrician could fit it for you within a short time.
The real question is why don't the majority of motorhome manufacturers fit them as standard ?
Because every motorhome should have one, especially if you have a solar panel on the roof (again an item that should be standard in every motorhome )
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Oooooo! That will cause the markets to crash!
Well, no reputable business is going to sell you something with vehicle specific instructions to cover all motorhomes over the last forty to fifty years, its a cottage industry at best and even the larger converters change wiring and spec on a whim!
MHFun sell it for sixty five quid, so you'll appreciate that the profit margin isn't great! however, send us some pictures of where you "think" you could install it, we'd normally say that whilst you should still check everything yourself and satisfy yourself that what your doing is "safe" we could see no reason why the suggested installation wouldn't work. We cannot write War and Peace as an answer covering all bases for a vehicle we have never seen.
As you only posted our response to the email, I don't know what information you offered as we only have half a story.
There does comes a point where if you simply don't understand or haven't a clue how to go about installing a product, a product that only has three wires to connect, designed with auto resetting internal fusing, sometimes we are deliberately vague as we simply don't really wish to get involved.
Shock horror, we as many business's do don't have to sell or offer a service if we think that the product is beyond the potential customer in that the said customer won't understand the product, get frustrated with it and end up slagging us/the product off, or we have dealt in the past and their a knob or the person is a knob before we have done any work so unlikely to improved once they have the exalted status as "paying customer"
All that being said there are only three wires on it so most people can cope with the installation following the on line instructions
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It is a great product we sell thousands of them, I have absolutely no problem with people not wishing to buy one as we are an installation company not a mail order company, and we mainly supply them trade to many dealers and solar companies. Ultimately offering an in depth technical assistance help line fly's in the face of our installation service for those that find three wires daunting.
That being said, lets put our money where our mouth is? You have stated that your looking for an alternative to the Van Bitz Battery Master as we didn't offer a hand holding email service! Send me your name and address and Van Bitz will send you a Battery Master free of charge and "if" you can't mange to install it following the helpful information on the links, post a picture of your fuse board etc and I'll talk you through installing it!
Of course you may be so aggrieved with such a rude email that you'll decline my offer and look elsewhere for a similar product!
Sterling make one, buy one of those and phone us Charles Sterling for a nice chat
EDIT: I have found your enquiry:- " Hi
can the battery master be installed along side existing (EBL99) chargers and wiring without modifications pls ?"
Hardly a lot for us to go on!
Ooooh
You said the same thing as me, but with a lot more words!
Can I slag
off another one of your tried as tested products and get freebie ?I was thinking that a couple of nights free of charge on your campsite would not go amiss
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Oooooo! That will cause the markets to crash!
Well, no reputable business is going to sell you something with vehicle specific instructions to cover all motorhomes over the last forty to fifty years, its a cottage industry at best and even the larger converters change wiring and spec on a whim!
MHFun sell it for sixty five quid, so you'll appreciate that the profit margin isn't great! however, send us some pictures of where you "think" you could install it, we'd normally say that whilst you should still check everything yourself and satisfy yourself that what your doing is "safe" we could see no reason why the suggested installation wouldn't work. We cannot write War and Peace as an answer covering all bases for a vehicle we have never seen.
As you only posted our response to the email, I don't know what information you offered as we only have half a story.
There does comes a point where if you simply don't understand or haven't a clue how to go about installing a product, a product that only has three wires to connect, designed with auto resetting internal fusing, sometimes we are deliberately vague as we simply don't really wish to get involved.
Shock horror, we as many business's do don't have to sell or offer a service if we think that the product is beyond the potential customer in that the said customer won't understand the product, get frustrated with it and end up slagging us/the product off, or we have dealt in the past and their a knob or the person is a knob before we have done any work so unlikely to improved once they have the exalted status as "paying customer"
All that being said there are only three wires on it so most people can cope with the installation following the on line instructions
[Broken Link Removed]
It is a great product we sell thousands of them, I have absolutely no problem with people not wishing to buy one as we are an installation company not a mail order company, and we mainly supply them trade to many dealers and solar companies. Ultimately offering an in depth technical assistance help line fly's in the face of our installation service for those that find three wires daunting.
That being said, lets put our money where our mouth is? You have stated that your looking for an alternative to the Van Bitz Battery Master as we didn't offer a hand holding email service! Send me your name and address and Van Bitz will send you a Battery Master free of charge and "if" you can't mange to install it following the helpful information on the links, post a picture of your fuse board etc and I'll talk you through installing it!
Of course you may be so aggrieved with such a rude email that you'll decline my offer and look elsewhere for a similar product!
Sterling make one, buy one of those and phone us Charles Sterling for a nice chat
EDIT: I have found your enquiry:- " Hi
can the battery master be installed along side existing (EBL99) chargers and wiring without modifications pls ?"
Hardly a lot for us to go on!
If anyone does call Charles for advice, make sure you are not on speakerphone and any young children present
PS. The Sterling one is, like many of these type of devices, not suitable for Lithium Battery use. The Sterling product clearly states that if anyone has Lithium and was looking at Battery Master alternatives (the title of this thread).
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Ah but the gentleman didn’t slag of our tried and tested, market leading, works with lithium straight out of the box product, he said he wouldn’t buy our product as he got a vague answer to his vauge emailOoooh
You said the same thing as me, but with a lot more words!
Can I slag
I was thinking that a couple of nights free of charge on your campsite would not go amiss
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I'm a bit puzzled as to why to charging differential is 0.8V below the hab battery. I realise that lithiums are a bit higher resting voltage but I would have thought a maximum differential of 0.5V max would be better. Is there a reason?
Maybe it's because some MH manufacturers fit Truma solar panels and controllers, which have a second outlet for the vehicle battery.
Ours did, but I've replaced it with a Victron Smartsolar mppt 75/15, which doesn't. So having to rethink winter (& lock down) charging procedures.
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