Autotrader Scammers

[PhilandMena]

Due to a disability my motorhoming adventures have come to an end and I have reluctantly put my beloved Autotrail up for sale on Autotrader. The site warned me in advance to be on the alert for scammers and not to provide any personal information to anyone and to do all my comunication through their website including the use of a protected phone number for any voice calls.
Within 10 minutes of the add being placed I got a call from Motorhome Depot who wanted to sell my motorhome for me ( No chance!) At least they were honest in that they identified themselves up front. This was followed by aan email exchange whereby a gent asked some questions about the motorhome which was already available on the Autotrader website then asked if we could meet. When I asked him why and where he wanted to meet and what his expectations from the meeting he asked me to send him my mobile number. I asked him to send me his or call me using the Autotrader protected number! I never heard from him again ??? Another guy made a big play about wanting to buy the motorhome and insisted I get a report from autoreportexpert.com When I looked at this website it did not ring true to me and I said to him you pay for the report and I will refund you when and if you buy the motorhome. His response was only the seller can get the report which set all my alarm bells ringing and so I pointed out Autotrader had already done vehicle & security checks when I placed the add and I would not be paying for anouther report ....... and that brought that enquiry to an end. I dont know if I'm being over cautious but I think there are scammers & Traders just waiting for new adverts being placed on Autotrader and they make contact to chance there arm. I'm not really expecting much happening untill spring anyway.

 

[alecturn1]

Forgive me,but how does the scam work?

 

[PhilandMena]

Forgive me,but how does the scam work?

That is a good question! I'm not sure as I have detected the scam during the initial enquiry stage and not certain of the true intent of the
scammer. They certainly want my address and if they were to get that I'm unsure of what would happen next. They clearly have not read my advert on Autotrader as the answers to their questions are there. Also, they do a runner when I ask some very basic questions. It's not really hard to spot them once your on your guard.

 

[JockandRita]

That is a good question! I'm not sure as I have detected the scam during the initial enquiry stage and not certain of the true intent of the
scammer.

Whatever Phil, be sure to stay on top of it.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[PhilandMena]

Whatever Phil, be sure to stay on top of it.

Cheers,

Jock.

Yes Jock, It looks like I can spot them very early. Autotrader have looked at my correspondence and said everything I'm doing is correct. Merry Christmas

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[Delboyarapaho]

How did you sell it in the end?

Someone I knew was interested so we sold to him

 

[jerryz]

When I sell Motorcycles that I have restored I always demand CASH for payment ,, anything else even Digital Bank transfers can be reversed or a scam

 

[MichaelT]

When I sell Motorcycles that I have restored I always demand CASH for payment ,, anything else even Digital Bank transfers can be reversed or a scam

And cash can be fake

 

[jerryz]

And cash can be fake

Yes it can be ,, have to check it carefully ,,, Last year when I was in Cambodia the ATM at the border was doling out fake $100 bills which the Bars,restaurants would not take ,and the banks denied it ,, but when the cops stopped me for a fake traffic light violation because i was a foreigner with money and demanded $10 bribe I gave him a fake $100 and got equivalent of $90 real ones back in Kip .. I changed the other 2 up in a casino on the border with Thailand for chips played a few hands of Blackjack and ended up winning another $65 so all in all a good result ...

 

[AlunandFelicie]

Yes it can be ,, have to check it carefully ,,, Last year when I was in Cambodia the ATM at the border was doling out fake $100 bills which the Bars,restaurants would not take ,and the banks denied it ,, but when the cops stopped me for a fake traffic light violation because i was a foreigner with money and demanded $10 bribe I gave him a fake $100 and got equivalent of $90 real ones back in Kip .. I changed the other 2 up in a casino on the border with Thailand for chips played a few hands of Blackjack and ended up winning another $65 so all in all a good result ...

Probably shouldn’t go back to Cambodia then as you’ve admitted on a public forum to passing counterfeit money

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[jerryz]

Probably shouldn’t go back to Cambodia then as you’ve admitted on a public forum to passing counterfeit money

I wont be going back for at least a year , but im not bothered ,, when an ATM spews out fake notes and the bank responsible does nothing when i complain . In SEA corruption is so rife they dont care . If i did not use that money I would be out of pocket .

 

[PhilandMena]

When I sell Motorcycles that I have restored I always demand CASH for payment ,, anything else even Digital Bank transfers can be reversed or a scam

A digital bank transfer can only be reversed with the account holders consent.

 

[Carpmart]

When I sell Motorcycles that I have restored I always demand CASH for payment ,, anything else even Digital Bank transfers can be reversed or a scam

What a load of old tosh!

Bank Transfers cannot be reversed… don’t spread this kind of poor information as you’ll panic the ‘coffin dodgers’ on here who are scared (unjustifiably) by these kind of new fangled transactions!

 

[jerryz]

Then how do the banks do charge backs???? ,, of course they can reverse electronic bank transfers if you have a credit balance ,,, thats why scammers empty their accounts fast , only the honest people have anything to fear ...

 

[MichaelT]

Then how do the banks do charge backs???? ,, of course they can reverse electronic bank transfers if you have a credit balance ,,, thats why scammers empty their accounts fast , only the honest people have anything to fear ...

Charge backs are for credit and debit cards not bank transfers.

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[Carpmart]

Then how do the banks do charge backs???? ,, of course they can reverse electronic bank transfers if you have a credit balance ,,, thats why scammers empty their accounts fast , only the honest people have anything to fear ...

Please stop

You’re just worrying people and conveying incorrect and misleading information!

 

[scotzsue]

I bought my car by bank transfer, seemed to go through, but my banked stopped the transfer. By that time I had registered, road taxed and insured in my name. took about an hour after the fraud team contacted me to get it sorted. Dealership said not to worry as it happens all the time.
Was asked why I hadn't just used my card, it was over their allowed limit, no where on the web site or app did it recommend contacting them to pre arrange using the card for a higher amount, or suggest that transfer was not safe.
Now with anoither bank.

 

[Janine]

I bought my car by bank transfer, seemed to go through, but my banked stopped the transfer. By that time I had registered, road taxed and insured in my name. took about an hour after the fraud team contacted me to get it sorted. Dealership said not to worry as it happens all the time.
Was asked why I hadn't just used my card, it was over their allowed limit, no where on the web site or app did it recommend contacting them to pre arrange using the card for a higher amount, or suggest that transfer was not safe.
Now with anoither bank.

I bank with Barclays and, when I was buying my previous van, I phoned them to tell them I was making a large purchase.

They said that they didn’t work like that nowadays because they couldn’t verify who was calling. Instead their security department would phone me when the transaction went through.

Unfortunately, I hadn’t updated my phone number on their records so that caused more problems