Are these Waco connectors ok (1 Viewer)

[lorger]

I’m going to be replacing the USB socket in the van as it’s goosed, when pushing the usb in it just went straight through and won’t now reseat. I have another USB socket to fit and just wondering if these connectors are ok.

Or would I be better to buy a small soldering iron and solder them?

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[DavidG58]

Don’t do what I did and think they are like chocolate block type connectors

You put the same supply +or- in each side or if twisted together just use one side or buy single connectors

Edit to answer your question I definitely trust Screwfix to sell decent stuff

 

[Terry]

I’m going to be replacing the USB socket in the van as it’s goosed, when pushing the usb in it just went straight through and won’t now reseat. I have another USB socket to fit and just wondering if these connectors are ok.

Or would I be better to buy a small soldering iron and solder them?

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Wago 221 or 222 series’s would be better

 

[Richard n Ann]

I'd solder them and shrink wrap them

 

[lorger]

Wago 221 or 222 series’s would be better

If you don’t mind can I ask why?

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[Terry]

If you don’t mind can I ask why?

The ones you showed simply push in and if moved the wire can sometimes pull out. Indeed if you want to remove the wire you twist it and pull it out. The others are locked in position by a lock type lever

 

[Brianmor]

Wago have been making electrical connectors for the electrical trade for donkeys years, if you can't trust them then you can't trust anything.

 

[Bobby-gg]

I like 221 pass through connectors.

 

[WESTY66]

Uncle Lenny HB ordered me to ditch the scotch locks and buy wagos!! I did as I was told

 

[TDub49]

USB = universal serial bus, so not just a means of moving the lekky from one place to another. I'm guessing that the Wago connectors are just a variation on the simple plug connector concept with no data transfer capability and therefore emminently better for that purpose than the USB?

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[dunnah01]

I’m going to be replacing the USB socket in the van as it’s goosed, when pushing the usb in it just went straight through and won’t now reseat. I have another USB socket to fit and just wondering if these connectors are ok.

Or would I be better to buy a small soldering iron and solder them?

Wago 773 Series 24A 2-Way Push-Wire Connector 100 Pack - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Simple and reusable, 2-way push-wire connector for solid and stranded conductors. Transparent housing ensures connection remains visible. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute.

www.screwfix.com

They're not very good for multi-strand auto cable. the clamp type are much better

 

[gus-lopez]

I use soldered shrink fit .these

wire in either side , heat with precision hot air gun or flame, melts solder & heat shrink all in one

 

[autorouter]

Or would I be better to buy a small soldering iron and solder them?

Soldering is very good for electrical connections, it is used all the time in electronic devices. However there are reliability concerns for soldered stranded wires in a vibration-prone environment. For example, they are never used in aircraft. The manual of my Audi car specifically states that solder connections are never to be used.

Crimp or Wago connections are used instead. Obviously you must take care that the crimp or Wago connection is to the same high quality standard. A good crimp joint is as good electrically as a good solder joint, and is more reliable.

 

[pappajohn]

The wire used on USB sockets may be too thin for the push fit wago connectors.
Push it in and it just crumples without going right in.
Far better using the lock lever wago's

 

[Lenny HB]

Wago have been making electrical connectors for the electrical trade for donkeys years, if you can't trust them then you can't trust anything.

Be aware there are lots of Chinese copies on eBay & Amazon, normally OK but better to buy genuine Wago.

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[Lenny HB]

I’m going to be replacing the USB socket in the van as it’s goosed, when pushing the usb in it just went straight through and won’t now reseat. I have another USB socket to fit and just wondering if these connectors are ok.

With the cheap sockets the front PCB that the socket is on is only held to the main PCB with a blob of solder each side. I've repaired a few by soldering a short piece of tinned copper wire over the joint then covering with epoxy.
For the current van I'm going to buy the aluminium body ones hoping they are better.

 

[autorouter]

USB = universal serial bus, so not just a means of moving the lekky from one place to another. I'm guessing that the Wago connectors are just a variation on the simple plug connector concept with no data transfer capability and therefore emminently better for that purpose than the USB?

It's true that in general a USB connection has data capabilities, and Wago connections on the data wires would not give you acceptable data transfer rates. However automotive USB sockets are usually used only for charging purposes, and very little if any of the data capability is used. They usually only have a simple pos and neg 12V supply, which Wago connectors are perfect for.

 

[lorger]

Thanks to everyone for replying and giving advice, I’ll go with the other Waco ones that lock in place as suggested.

 

[WESTY66]

Thanks to everyone for replying and giving advice, I’ll go with the other Waco ones that lock in place as suggested.

You know it makes sense! I could have given you some at Lyndon top

 

[Richard n Ann]

Imagine how much a vehicle would need to vibrate to fracture a soldered wire that chestnut always brings a wry smile.

Maybe the space shuttle during launch would get problems eventually if the cables weren't cable tied or no strain relief, but if my van started breaking soldered joints I'd be seriously looking at upgrading the suspension err that's if I survived the first trip

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[lorger]

You know it makes sense! I could have given you some at Lyndon top

I’ve messaged the EI from work as he may be passing on the way home

 

[autorouter]

Imagine how much a vehicle would need to vibrate to fracture a soldered wire that chestnut always brings a wry smile.

Maybe the space shuttle during launch would get problems eventually if the cables weren't cable tied or no strain relief, but if my van started breaking soldered joints I'd be seriously looking at upgrading the suspension err that's if I survived the first trip

There is the phenomenon of resonance. The wire will vibrate massively if the frequency of the vibration is just right. You may think that you'd have to be extremely unlucky for the vibration frequency to be exactly right. However remember the engine - the source of vibration - varies continuously over a wide range, so there is a good chance that one of those frequencies, or a multiple of it - is just right to cause the resonant vibration. Over a year or two the joint will fail.

If every joint in a vehicle was soldered, a two or three year old vehicle would be plagued with difficult to trace electrical faults. The aircraft and automotive industries have learnt over the years from hard experience to avoid soldered joints.

 

[Richard n Ann]

There is the phenomenon of resonance. The wire will vibrate massively if the frequency of the vibration is just right. You may think that you'd have to be extremely unlucky for the vibration frequency to be exactly right. However remember the engine - the source of vibration - varies continuously over a wide range, so there is a good chance that one of those frequencies, or a multiple of it - is just right to cause the resonant vibration. Over a year or two the joint will fail.

If every joint in a vehicle was soldered, a two or three year old vehicle would be plagued with difficult to trace electrical faults. The aircraft and automotive industries have learnt over the years from hard experience to avoid soldered joints.

Ok then, these are the heated grips connections on my single cylinder (vibratey ) 390cc motorcycle. Soldered, shrink wrapped and cable tied in the small space right above the vibration lump. I'll let you know when they fail but I think it may be some time

 

[Vaman]

I have recently retired from a life safety industry that has been using Wago in safety crtical postions for the last 20 years, have never known a failure if the wire is stripped correctly. The locations include nuclear, government, palaces & transportation (airports etc). Will not state the same for the chinese copies though. Stick to wago, you cant go wrong

 

[lorger]

Connectors delivered and new usb double socket fitted.

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