There is another issue for anyone seriously considering a purchase, 12t is another step in weight limits in the EU and reflecting this its also where most chassis makers go from the lower frame to the higher one, so a much bigger vehicle in every respect. It does however open up the possibility of Underfloor engines which gets all the oily stuff out of the way and gives you a very nice ride and a decent rear garage. I do wonder where the Volkner owners would keep their bicycles ( Hase Pino in this case ) etc?