Another Tandem Storage and anti theft solution

[PeterCarole29]

It takes 2 minutes to assemble with no tools and has drum brakes
Is it rare

 

[DandJ]

It probably is pretty rare...but I've no doubt it will be dire, flexible and no way would I want to be riding that anywhere other than around a (soft landing) campsite field. (I presume it's the one that sold for £100 on ebay yesterday?)

 

[funflair]

There could be some truth in the above post but i'm not so bold as to come straight out with it, I was going to say "I wouldn't be doing too many downhills with those drum brakes" it looks a nifty bit of design though.

Is it heavy?

 

[DandJ]

There could be some truth in the above post but i'm not so bold as to come straight out with it, I was going to say "I wouldn't be doing too many downhills with those drum brakes" it looks a nifty bit of design though.

Is it heavy?

I suppose I am viewing it as akin to those photos of electric cable reels and whether one tells the owner how dangerous it 'could' be (there was a thread about it over the last day or two)
(Until recently, we have had tandems for 25 yrs. First one had V brakes....they were OK but we had a couple of tyre blowouts due to heat in the rim (not an issue with drum brakes) we then had discs brakes and that sorted the stopping...frame flex was a thing with a cheap steel tandem, fixed with a better aluminium tubed frame.)

 

[funflair]

I suppose I am viewing it as akin to those photos of electric cable reels and whether one tells the owner how dangerous it 'could' be (there was a thread about it over the last day or two)
(Until recently, we have had tandems for 25 yrs. First one had V brakes....they were OK but we had a couple of tyre blowouts due to heat in the rim (not an issue with drum brakes) we then had discs brakes and that sorted the stopping...frame flex was a thing with a cheap steel tandem, fixed with a better aluminium tubed frame.)

We have had this Dave Yates custom build for over 35 years,

And then this, semi recumbent for just over a year now.

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[DandJ]

Love the Dave Yates.

 

[PeterCarole29]

It probably is pretty rare...but I've no doubt it will be dire, flexible and no way would I want to be riding that anywhere other than around a (soft landing) campsite field. (I presume it's the one that sold for £100 on ebay yesterday?)

Yes ,thought it was interesting and not far from me
I have 2 grandchildren today so will reply tonight

 

[Spriddler]

My son ad DIL are avid on and off-road tandem riders and have just had one made to his own design/dimensions in titanium. It cost just short of 7 grand.
In this pic he has an on loan leccy drive unit attached (removable in 10 mins) which he tested in the Derby Dales two weeks ago for the fairly new manufacturer. (Skarper) https://skarper.com/?gad_source=1&g...6d4nJzMwjY4LM6eKy1bzkUSMQRu9Ok6waAlm5EALw_wcB
The gear change is controlled cable-free, being activated by Bluetooth. The hydraulic brake hoses are concealed within the frame.

The frame sections are joined with castellated mating ends and hand-tightened threaded collars - no tools needed.

We're currently constructing a shipping frame for when they take it to tour New Zealand on Jan 2nd for two months in a hired m/home.

 

[Bobby-gg]

We have had this Dave Yates custom build for over 35 years,

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And then this, semi recumbent for just over a year now.

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Being from the North East, DY working out of Steels cycles was the man for custom stuff, I've still got a custom 1 1/4" stem he brazed up from me probably 35 years ago.

Just wish I'd done his custom frame course when it was still up here

 

[funflair]

Being from the North East, DY working out of Steels cycles was the man for custom stuff, I've still got a custom 1 1/4" stem he brazed up from me probably 35 years ago.

Just wish I'd done his custom frame course when it was still up here

We went to the factory, North end of Tyne Tunnel I believe and were measured up by Dave basically "stand against the wall and he noted the marks" because I was and still am a short ar5e he proposed extending the head tube for better bearing support, all brazed 531 with a Columbus captains seat post, I haven't a clue how many miles we put on it over the years but 10's of 1000's for sure.

Still got it's original paint as well, new hubs but same rims, a few blocks and chains and changed gear shifters to keep up with the times, it wasn't indexed when we had it built, had carbon chain rings on it for a lot of years but that was really testing for our business

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[Bobby-gg]

Totally off topic, but the bike I always wanted in the '90's was a Dave Yates mountain bike.

Custom builder Chas Roberts made a frame called the D. O. G. S B. O. L. L. O. X, and Dave replied by building the D. O. N. K I. S. N. O. B.

These were then followed by the Dave Lloyd's C. A. T. S. W. I. S. K. A. S

Those were different times

 

[funflair]

Totally off topic, but the bike I always wanted in the '90's was a Dave Yates mountain bike.

Custom builder Chas Roberts made a frame called the D. O. G. S B. O. L. L. O. X, and Dave replied by building the D. O. N. K I. S. N. O. B.

These were then followed by the Dave Lloyd's C. A. T. S. W. I. S. K. A. S

Those were different times

Well if you want a Dave Yates tandem instead ours don't get used anymore now we have the Hase Pino,

And while the thread is loosely "tandem storage"

This,

Packs down to this, the seat is on QR skewers, the handlebars just need loosening and fold down and in, the rear pedal are quick release so the widest part is the front crank and pedals, the front boom is telescopic in two places so will actually go short enough to go across the back of a car but with just the first telescope which doesn't affect the steering the bike goes into a motorhome garage very easily, I wouldn't want £10k hanging on the back

 

[PeterCarole29]

Wow there some serious Tandems being mentioned

 

[PeterCarole29]

There could be some truth in the above post but i'm not so bold as to come straight out with it, I was going to say "I wouldn't be doing too many downhills with those drum brakes" it looks a nifty bit of design though.

Is it heavy?

Hi
Its well built .I wouldnt consider it heavy. I think the comments on flexing are probably justerfied but i think the market isnt at the serious biker as the guys that have been showing there very impresive bikes.
It was the one for buy it now £100 but after speeking to the seller they were more than happy to take less.
For our use a Tandem is me on the front for who my Racing motorcross and enduro days are well over and my wife who cant ride a bike and is happy to admit it .So any Tandem is purely to get out at a very liesurely pace no more than 15mph from campsites or airs we may stay in in Europe.
When its clamped together its very ridgid but of course when you start looking at it from an engineering design point its easy to flaw except from the convience of it being so easy to dismantle it takes 2 minutes.
I have been racking my brain whats the best way to make it electric but the only way is front wheel but wonder if it would be asking too much for the front forks especially as caliper brakes would then need to fit to the bottom of the forks
I think i will stick with the Folding more modern one we have and take it next week to woosh

I will have to find someone to love this German made Tandem

 

[PeterCarole29]

Out of interest id love to find out more about the bike and even see if there a museum that might be interested in it
so if anyone has got any suggestions they are welcome

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[DandJ]

My son ad DIL are avid on and off-road tandem riders .......

Superb stuff. We ended up with a Ventana El Conquistador de Montanas

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We were the National MTB Orienteering Tandem Champions in around 2006.....(I have to add that we were also last placed as we were the only tandem in it so however bad we did....we'd have won...but sshhh...don't tell t'others )

 

[funflair]

Hi
Its well built .I wouldnt consider it heavy. I think the comments on flexing are probably justerfied but i think the market isnt at the serious biker as the guys that have been showing there very impresive bikes.
It was the one for buy it now £100 but after speeking to the seller they were more than happy to take less.
For our use a Tandem is me on the front for who my Racing motorcross and enduro days are well over and my wife who cant ride a bike and is happy to admit it .So any Tandem is purely to get out at a very liesurely pace no more than 15mph from campsites or airs we may stay in in Europe.
When its clamped together its very ridgid but of course when you start looking at it from an engineering design point its easy to flaw except from the convience of it being so easy to dismantle it takes 2 minutes.
I have been racking my brain whats the best way to make it electric but the only way is front wheel but wonder if it would be asking too much for the front forks especially as caliper brakes would then need to fit to the bottom of the forks
I think i will stick with the Folding more modern one we have and take it next week to woosh

I will have to find someone to love this German made Tandem

Yes it's very easy "for some of us" to get carried away but at the end of the day all you need is something that does what you want it to do and I am sure that will do what you describe, at a recent tandem rally I saw an electric assistant that was really quite neat and actually drove on the rear tyre.

 

[DandJ]

Out of interest id love to find out more about the bike and even see if there a museum that might be interested in it
so if anyone has got any suggestions they are welcome

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[clanjones]

Couldn't miss the opportunity to post a picture of our Bob Jackson built tandem from JD Tandems, Gargrave. It has 4 couplers so we are able to pack it into 2 bike boxes. A delight to ride!

 

[PeterCarole29]

Yes it's very easy "for some of us" to get carried away but at the end of the day all you need is something that does what you want it to do and I am sure that will do what you describe, at a recent tandem rally I saw an electric assistant that was really quite neat and actually drove on the rear tyre.

I have seen those on you tube but wondered if the noise they cause would spoil the liesurely ride

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[PeterCarole29]

Couldn't miss the opportunity to post a picture of our Bob Jackson built tandem from JD Tandems, Gargrave. It has 4 couplers so we are able to pack it into 2 bike boxes. A delight to ride!



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I wasnt aware there were such quality Tandem bikes around that dismantles. Looks lovely

 

[Spriddler]

We were the National MTB Orienteering Tandem Champions in around 2006.....(I have to add that we were also last placed as we were the only tandem in it so however bad we did....we'd have won...but sshhh...don't tell t'others )

My son and DIL have also 'won' their class in events for the same reason.
The wife of one of the cycling club whose husband is blind rides at the front of their tandem. He's evidently a very courageous chap although anyone riding on the back must be as it probably feels quite strange to have handlebars yet be unable to steer.