Adblue ?

[peter marshall]

Well done Howard sounds lIke the type of thing I would do. Pete

 

[icantremember]

But won't that just mean a decrease in diesel particulates and an increase in petrol carbon monoxide in exhaust gases ie. Swapping one dirty exhaust for an equally bad one.
The result will probably be an Adblue for petrol engines

I really don't know about the emissions, but petrol engines seem to be more reliable than modern diesel ones.

 

[Puddleduck]

Well done Howard sounds lIke the type of thing I would do. Pete

Me too......

 

[Badknee]

Ok let the humiliation and ridicule begin,my mh does not have a adblue system fitted there I said it .In my defence the hand book says it has so there are mitigating circumstances,so crack on funsters I can stand it

Once again in my best James May voice ' What a cock!'

 

[Howard H]

Thought you would be along soon ,but you are right

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[Howard H]

Thought you would be along soon ,but you are right

 

[Badknee]

Thought you would be along soon ,but you are right

Thought you would be along soon ,but you are right

So right I got in duplicate.

 

[Bertie Bassett]

So right I got in duplicate.

You're on form tonight Knee

 

[lou020]

adblue works ok in the summer,but wait till its freezing weather and the hoses (which are heated) fail. for our volvo trucks, the hoses are a small fortune. used to be £300 a time. Every problem we had with the trucks was Adblue related. And you'll be paying upwards of 80p a ltr out on the road.
We've no such problems now, invested in the little boxes which fools the ECU by thinking its still using it.

 

[tonyidle]

But won't that just mean a decrease in diesel particulates and an increase in petrol carbon monoxide in exhaust gases ie. Swapping one dirty exhaust for an equally bad one.
The result will probably be an Adblue for petrol engines

No - Adblue is for NOx reduction. CO emissions for petrol and Diesel engines was cracked long ago.

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[TheBig1]

I just find it strange that adding urea to the system reduces emissions. the main constituent of urine is urea so in effect you are spraying heated piss into your van

 

[EssexBoy]

CO emissions for petrol and Diesel engines was cracked long ago.

So if nothing is making petrol engines "dirty", then why are we still persisting with diesel?
Is it because petrol engines will still need equivalent gadgets/gizmos/tweaks like Adblue, DPFs, EGRS etc if we start switching back to petrol engines in any numbers?

 

[EssexBoy]

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[Badknee]

We've no such problems now, invested in the little boxes which fools the ECU by thinking its still using it.

Oh yes, did you buy them from VW by any chance?

 

[gus-lopez]

Ok let the humiliation and ridicule begin,my mh does not have a adblue system fitted there I said it .In my defence the hand book says it has so there are mitigating circumstances,so crack on funsters I can stand it

Just say to yourself " Thank God It is not there"

I really don't know about the emissions, but petrol engines seem to be more reliable than modern diesel ones.

Possibly because they have been trying to make the diesel engine emissions cleaner than the intake air it uses?
It wasn't designed for that but to run on anything that would ignite when compressed.

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[Pausim]

I have just done my first top up of Adblue to my Hymer ML-I 580. Quite easy once you find the right equipment. I think Mercedes and Halfords both assume there will be good access above the Adblue filler, which is not the case by the time Hymer have built a motorhome around it. After a bit of internet research I dicovered that VW do a filler tube for £9 which appeared to suit the job, I bought one over the counter at a VW dealer. It is perfect for the job, screws on firmly to both the Adblue filler and the Mercedes 10l can, it is then just a matter of inverting the can with sufficient head for it to flow. No drips and no spillage.
Ok it is an additional cost but I suspect it will not be long before non compliant vehicles are either restricted from or charged for going into emission zones such as London. Anyway I prefer not to poison my grandchildren with NOx now we know what it can do.

 

[StefAndDi]

I think Mercedes and Halfords both assume there will be good access above the Adblue filler, which is not the case by the time Hymer have built a motorhome around it.

Never a truer word spoken. When the AdBlue on my Hymer/Merc needed topping up I went to my Mercedes Commercials dealer and they had a devil of a job doing it.
Stef.

 

[Speve]

Well @Howard H I've never heard of it until your post so thanks for telling us I don't think I'll be buying a van with it on.

 

[Baldeagle7470]

Ok let the humiliation and ridicule begin,my mh does not have a adblue system fitted there I said it .In my defence the hand book says it has so there are mitigating circumstances,so crack on funsters I can stand it

Howard,we bought a Challenger camper here in France on a Transit base,the base vehicle was built in Turkey in 2014 and we bought brand new in November last year.
There was no mention of Adblue at the time of handover.
I was surprised therefore on wading through the various handbooks that it said we needed it.
The filler was supposed to be adjacent to the diesel filler which on the transit is only accessible when you open the drivers door,nothing there but the filler.Why I was still searching was because in the glovebox was a plastic funnel in a bag.
I guess our vehicle was just before the changeover date and poor Mr Turk was just given a big bag of the funnels to put one in each glovebox.
I have been around transport and trucks all my life and it still made me look twice,an easy mistake you made and one that looks as though it has interested many other users unaware of this,enjoy your van.

 

[Just smiffy]

I just find it strange that adding urea to the system reduces emissions. the main constituent of urine is urea so in effect you are spraying heated piss into your van

With the amount I drink I could start a business selling it...! And it will have a high alcohol content....

A bit like bp super grade...
Aka, "bloody piss high grade additive" to make your car go faster... Only £2 a litre... Better then Reddex..

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[tonyidle]

But won't that just mean a decrease in diesel particulates and an increase in petrol carbon monoxide in exhaust gases ie. Swapping one dirty exhaust for an equally bad one.
The result will probably be an Adblue for petrol engines

Lots of confusion about this: petrol engines emit close to zero CO and Diesel engines very slightly more. All engines emit CO2 which is simply a function of how much fuel they burn and not how well they burn it. Diesel engines have two problems: high combustion temperatures mean that they produce an excess of nitrous oxide (that's from heating the air they use to burn the fuel: air is over 70% nitrogen) hence the introduction of Adblue; they also produce fine particulates (carbon-based) hence the use of DPFs. There is apparently a consensus within the ranks of Diesel engine designers that any further reduction of emissions is unlikely.

 

[jezport]

Lots of confusion about this: petrol engines emit close to zero CO and Diesel engines very slightly more. All engines emit CO2 which is simply a function of how much fuel they burn and not how well they burn it. Diesel engines have two problems: high combustion temperatures mean that they produce an excess of nitrous oxide (that's from heating the air they use to burn the fuel: air is over 70% nitrogen) hence the introduction of Adblue; they also produce fine particulates (carbon-based) hence the use of DPFs. There is apparently a consensus within the ranks of Diesel engine designers that any further reduction of emissions is unlikely.

I always believed that diesel exhaust gasses had far less co than petrol exhausts.

 

[jezport]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust
According to Wikipedia 28 times less Co in diesel exhaust gasses than petrol exhaust gasses.

I wouldn't connect your exhaust in your petrol car to a hose and run it to your window. You will find out the hard way that petrol fumes do contain more co than close to zero.

 

[Cat53]

Think we've got it on our new Motability Car. Was told not to worry about it the garage deals with it when it's serviced. We picked the car up a week ago.

 

[DBK]

Think we've got it on our new Motability Car. Was told not to worry about it the garage deals with it when it's serviced. We picked the car up a week ago.

Sounds right, they consume very little of the stuff in a smallish engine.

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[Popeye]

With my new Mercedes Frankia the ad-Blue is free at any Merc Commercial dealer for the 1st year. My man will be putting in free for many years to come, and yes it IS purified Pigs Piss.

It is also bloody hard to fill. I have the s shaped pipe and it is still a bitch, thank goodness I've only done it twice since having the beast.

 

[K9Brian]

With my new Mercedes Frankia the ad-Blue is free at any Merc Commercial dealer for the 1st year. My man will be putting in free for many years to come, and yes it IS purified Pigs Piss.

It is also bloody hard to fill. I have the s shaped pipe and it is still a bitch, thank goodness I've only done it twice since having the beast.

No wonder it's expensive - some poor soul has to collect it

 

[Baldeagle7470]

Still reckon it's a piss poor idea

 

[Gromett]

Any one who thinks that AdBlue is a waste needs to look at the the health and environmental issues relating to NOx. It is nasty stuff and Diesels spew it out.

I wasn't aware of AdBlue or NOx risks until I did my CPC course last year. I would happily have a van with AdBlue to reduce the health impact I have on people around me.

CO2 has a long term effect on everyone, NOx has an immediate effect on those most vulnerable.

 

[Howard H]

Howard,we bought a Challenger camper here in France on a Transit base,the base vehicle was built in Turkey in 2014 and we bought brand new in November last year.
There was no mention of Adblue at the time of handover.
I was surprised therefore on wading through the various handbooks that it said we needed it.
The filler was supposed to be adjacent to the diesel filler which on the transit is only accessible when you open the drivers door,nothing there but the filler.Why I was still searching was because in the glovebox was a plastic funnel in a bag.
I guess our vehicle was just before the changeover date and poor Mr Turk was just given a big bag of the funnels to put one in each glovebox.
I have been around transport and trucks all my life and it still made me look twice,an easy mistake you made and one that looks as though it has interested many other users unaware of this,enjoy your van.

Thanks BA looks like we made the same mistake and like you I have been around trucks and plant all my working life and I know the trucks we have now the most common breakdown which happens on a regular basis is always connected to adblue system,so I consider myself fortunate I don't have adblue on my benimar but if I replace it in the future I guess I will have to have it but maybe they will have sorted the problems by then.

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