Adblue - a few questions ...

[GibAvon]

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

 

[Howard B]

Circumnavigate the AdBlue system and you've no longer got a Euro 6 van. All new vehicles sold after 1 Sep 15 have to be Euro 6 compliant. The V5 'log book' thingy must be changed to reflect it's no longer Euro 6, and this could mean it not being legal. The VED will certainly change and the van will be charged for entering ULEZ areas. Road-side checks will soon spot the modification

Last van was 2016 registered and was Euro5.
No difference in RFL with current Euro 6 van.

Not sure how a roadside check would spot a software modification unless they are plugging into the OBD now. From what i can gather the software change is undetectable.

 

[voyager4811]

Circumnavigate the AdBlue system and you've no longer got a Euro 6 van. All new vehicles sold after 1 Sep 15 have to be Euro 6 compliant. The V5 'log book' thingy must be changed to reflect it's no longer Euro 6, and this could mean it not being legal. The VED will certainly change and the van will be charged for entering ULEZ areas. Road-side checks will soon spot the modification (these guys know more tricks that the lot of us together), the van taken off the road and the driver maybe charged with having an illegal vehicle and possibly tax avoidance (who knows?). Get caught on the Continent; will you see your van again? And, as Cejay , asked: Why, there is no benefit?
Having said all that; my son went for years in cars where he'd removed the cat, and got away with it.

A guy in Ireland with a handful of trucks got caught running vehicles with the adblue deleted.ended up being done for revenue fraud (mega fine)plus a jail sentence

 

[Graham Mew]

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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Prefer to pump it in from a garage forecourt much cheaper and tend to get less on my shoes! I am surprised though at how much the Ducato 2.3 manages to munch through compared to my BMW 330d. German vs Italian engineering?
Yes the larger containers are a bit like trying to pour fluid out of a set of bagpipes!

 

[Graham Mew]

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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[Graham Mew]

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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My advice is to use up most of the tank before refilling for it has a shelf live. Before purchase check the manufacture and expriry

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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[Graham Mew]

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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Do not forget to check the manufacture and expiry date on the container. I wait till it informs you of the minimum and max

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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[Murrays]

Prefer to pump it in from a garage forecourt much cheaper and tend to get less on my shoes! I am surprised though at how much the Ducato 2.3 manages to munch through compared to my BMW 330d. German vs Italian engineering?
Yes the larger containers are a bit like trying to pour fluid out of a set of bagpipes!

I'm a pump man too. I can't figure the motivation for buying small expensive bottles of Adblue that are difficult to pour, when there are much cheaper forecourt pumps with the right nozzles and auto shut off. Vans give hundreds of miles of notice, certainly more than one tank of diesel, so it's never urgent. Can anyone tell me what the upside of bottles is?

Steve.

 

[Graham Mew]

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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Wait until you can install a large quantity thus using up the old for it has a self life. Check before purchase the expiry date on the container.

 

[Bramidan]

Very interesting! I checked all the pfs in my locale for Adblue on the pump. Even went down to a major service station on the M40, No Adblue pump.
So where are they?

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[Van Weasel]

Usually by the truckers pumps

 

[Jenka]

Seems strange; when returning daily to all the distribution depots I've worked at, the units had to be refueled and the AdBlue topped up, daily.

Thats because drivers would leave for the next guy and then the truck would run low and derate and cost money, so it's easier to instruct to top up daily.

 

[Koppersbeat]

Very interesting! I checked all the pfs in my locale for Adblue on the pump. Even went down to a major service station on the M40, No Adblue pump.
So where are they?

I use the app AdBlue4you. I live in Chichester and there are 2 garages with AdBlue on the A27 ring road.
The same app gives you all the French ones too.

 

[Monkfish]

Hi All

Our Fiat van is the first vehicle we have owned that requires Adblue. It has covered 1,800 miles in the past 15 months. A few days ago I checked the Ablue level indicator on the 'digital dashboard' display and it's about three quarters full - picture below. I understand that the capacity of the Adlue tank is 19 litres, so it seems that I need 4 to 5 litres to top up. So, on impulse, I bought a 4 litre container of Redex Adblue from my local supermarket. The container supplied with a small push-on angled spout, which is claimed to prevent spillages when topping up with Adblue.

I've been reading Adblue threads on this forum, but I still have some questions:

1. The FIAT and other websites state that I should wait until the Adlbue warning light comes on, and then I should top up with at least 5 litres. Is there any reason why I cannot top up more regularly with smaller quantities? BTW - The handbook doesn't mention a minimum quantity.

2. I fitted the supplied spout to the Adblue filler pipe on the van. It's quite short, and I assume it doesn't penetrate far enough to open the valve inside. Even 4 litres is heavy to lift up; I don't have a steady hand, and I can't see how I can poke the spout into the filler pipe without spilling Adblue all over the place. And - as for quickly removing the spout to avoid spillages when I've topped the tank - I don't think so!! ... So would filling via a funnel with a long flexible pipe be good enough, or should I buy one of those filling contraptions LINK available online?

Thanks in advance

Les

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Regarding (1) the recommendation that you only top up when the warning light comes on, the reason is that Ad-Blue has a use-by date, a year I think. If you wait until the light comes on and fill up with +5ltrs, you know that what is in your tank is fresh (assuming what you bought is!). If you continuously top it up, the old get mixed in with the new. However, I suspect that would only be a problem if you do low mileage or lay it up for long periods.

Cheers

 

[GibAvon]

Hi All

Many thanks for all your replies - some helpful suggestions and interesting debate!

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[Mike Rivers]

Ok, I believe manufacturers recommend waiting until warning light comes on is so the AdBlue is kept ‘fresh’ otherwise if you constantly topped up then in theory and depending on amount of usage you could be driving around with AdBlue that’s a number of years old in the system. I’m wondering if it degrades over time?

Secondly, and in common with many other posters here, it makes sense to replenish at an AdBlue pump since if you don’t use it all from the container you’re going to have to lug it around. If you spill it on your clothes or carpet it’s awful to remove since it crystallises and stains just about any surface it comes into contact with. There are apps out there that locate fuel stations which have AdBlue pumps and also worth making a note of on your travels if you see any eg: Esso at top of A303 and so on.

Lastly, remember that unless the top-up after warning light is 100%, then any starting problems may still persist. eg Sprinters might say ‘Restart not possible after X miles’, so if you did dip beneath the this mileage and turned the engine off then you wouldn’t be able to start it again until you topped up 100%. Adding a 5/10 litre container doesn’t cut it. The engine still won’t start. I’m not sure whether this applies to Ducatos or Boxers as I’ve never dipped below the no-restart range.

 

[Daffy64]

I’ve just read through this thread and thought I might chuck my 2 penneth in.

The reason that many manufacturers suggest that you don’t regularly top it up is because the legislation is that the system must identify any attempt to interfere with the emissions system, the upshot is that if you top up with a small amount the level sensor doesn’t see the level dropping but the mileage is increasing so the system assumes a fault. Most manufacturers suggest that you don’t put less than 5ltr into the tank. Heavy trucks use about 5% of the volume of fuel so topping up every day wouldn’t be recommended but would probably work for an average operation.

The level sensor is either ultrasonic or optical and as such it can’t see the fluid if the sensor is below the level, the risk is that if you fill with a can and ’brim it’ then the sensor wont see that you’ve added adblue so it can have the same effect as not putting any in so eventually you’ll go into limp mode or fail to restart.

What I do with my own van is wait for the light to come on, fill it when convenient and use a pump at a petrol station, there are more about now especially where trucks regularly fuel, Adblue pump nozzles are a std size so if you go to the truck pumps it will fit and fill, just take it to the first click and you’ll be good to go - when restarting just wait for the system check to complete and you shouldn’t have too much trouble.

If you have to use a can when the level warning is on, then don‘t overfill it, I’ve not experienced the situation explained by Mike Rivers above as I’ve not got experience of Sprinters but as far as Fiat, VW and heavy trucks are concerned my ramblings above are the case.

 

[Tony50]

I’ve just read through this thread and thought I might chuck my 2 penneth in.

The reason that many manufacturers suggest that you don’t regularly top it up is because the legislation is that the system must identify any attempt to interfere with the emissions system, the upshot is that if you top up with a small amount the level sensor doesn’t see the level dropping but the mileage is increasing so the system assumes a fault. Most manufacturers suggest that you don’t put less than 5ltr into the tank. Heavy trucks use about 5% of the volume of fuel so topping up every day wouldn’t be recommended but would probably work for an average operation.

The level sensor is either ultrasonic or optical and as such it can’t see the fluid if the sensor is below the level, the risk is that if you fill with a can and ’brim it’ then the sensor wont see that you’ve added adblue so it can have the same effect as not putting any in so eventually you’ll go into limp mode or fail to restart.

What I do with my own van is wait for the light to come on, fill it when convenient and use a pump at a petrol station, there are more about now especially where trucks regularly fuel, Adblue pump nozzles are a std size so if you go to the truck pumps it will fit and fill, just take it to the first click and you’ll be good to go - when restarting just wait for the system check to complete and you shouldn’t have too much trouble.

If you have to use a can when the level warning is on, then don‘t overfill it, I’ve not experienced the situation explained by Mike Rivers above as I’ve not got experience of Sprinters but as far as Fiat, VW and heavy trucks are concerned my ramblings above are the case.

As not conversant with Adblue what do you mean "Wait for system check to complete" ?

 

[Lyrick]

Not knowing anything about Ad Blu as still have not got new M/H may be next week ?is there a average mileage a tank full of Ad Blu lasts ?

I'm getting around 250 miles per litre of Adblue
19 litre tank so around 4750 miles per tank

 

[TheBig1]

Adblue is based on Urea, a biological component of urine. They used to make it with pigs pee. It biodegrades and breaks down over a few months. Try peeing in a bottle and store it a few months. It will go from smelly and coloured to clear or cloudy and no smell even in a closed container

So adblue does degrade over time, nence the shelf life and only topping up when near empty for low mileage vehicles.

The first ones were problematic and some firms manually defeated them on trucks. Van engines are totally different and can be turned off in a remap without issue. The science behind using urea to trap particulates in the exhaust gasses is still not that convincing. It all dates back to the emmissions cheating scandal a few years ago. A hot engine will burn cleanly anyway. More particulates and soot are created by slow moving vehicles that do stop start journeys without warming up properly and high mileage vehicles. Motorhomes are not usually used that way and seldom do high miles.

Plug a modern diesel motorhome into the exhaust gas analysing computer and they seldom get near to failing the MOT on emmissions. Even without adblue they pass with ease

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[ontheroadagain]

The reason that many manufacturers suggest that you don’t regularly top it up is because the legislation is that the system must identify any attempt to interfere with the emissions

Fiat actually advise that you DO top up regularly.

When do you need to top up the AdBlue® tank?​

AdBlue® consumption depends on your driving style. The instrument panel will alert you by means of a warning light, a symbol or a message when your car needs an AdBlue® refill.
We advise you to top up with AdBlue® regularly, especially before long journeys.
If the AdBlue® tank is empty, you will be unable to start the engine!

 

[Daffy64]

Fiat actually advise that you DO top up regularly.

When do you need to top up the AdBlue® tank?​

AdBlue® consumption depends on your driving style. The instrument panel will alert you by means of a warning light, a symbol or a message when your car needs an AdBlue® refill.
We advise you to top up with AdBlue® regularly, especially before long journeys.
If the AdBlue® tank is empty, you will be unable to start the engine!

They do but what they don’t mean is top it up every time you use the van as the system is designed to see the level moving or it will shut down as it’s either faulty or has been tampered with, you will note that it says your car will tell you when it needs adblue - the point i was trying to make was not to fill the adblue until it would take a volume of around 5ltr.

 

[Daffy64]

As not conversant with Adblue what do you mean "Wait for system check to complete" ?

When you turn on your ignition and wait for the lights to go out before starting - not that any of us do it but it’s good practice to do it before when the adblue has been filled.

 

[Daffy64]

Adblue is based on Urea, a biological component of urine. They used to make it with pigs pee. It biodegrades and breaks down over a few months. Try peeing in a bottle and store it a few months. It will go from smelly and coloured to clear or cloudy and no smell even in a closed container

So adblue does degrade over time, nence the shelf life and only topping up when near empty for low mileage vehicles.

The first ones were problematic and some firms manually defeated them on trucks. Van engines are totally different and can be turned off in a remap without issue. The science behind using urea to trap particulates in the exhaust gasses is still not that convincing. It all dates back to the emmissions cheating scandal a few years ago. A hot engine will burn cleanly anyway. More particulates and soot are created by slow moving vehicles that do stop start journeys without warming up properly and high mileage vehicles. Motorhomes are not usually used that way and seldom do high miles.

Plug a modern diesel motorhome into the exhaust gas analysing computer and they seldom get near to failing the MOT on emmissions. Even without adblue they pass with ease

Adblue isnt and has never been made of pigs pee, you might be right that urea was once made of pigs pee - its an urban myth that there is pee involved.

There has been system defeating software around for a while but van engines are similar to trucks in the equipment and design and any defeat takes it outside of its homologation and euro emission standard - it might be easy to get it deleted but it isn‘t legal or approved by the manufacturer.

Modern diesels are very clean but to achieve that they run high temperatures to meet the standards the SCR system which uses the adblue as one means to solve a problem without a high combustion temp, the adblue system only works when it’s needed, under a non load test such as the MOT it wouldn’t be working anyway - the S of SCR stands for selective.

I’m not a big fan of the system or specifically against deleting the system but I’m aware of individuals who have pee‘d in their adblue tanks because they have read up on it on forums and thought they were saving themselves a few quid so it’s worth spelling it out.

 

[ontheroadagain]

They do but what they don’t mean is top it up every time you use the van as the system is designed to see the level moving or it will shut down as it’s either faulty or has been tampered with

I top our Ducato up on a regular basis usually adding between 3L to 5L.
Did the same with our previous Peugeot which we owned for 3 years.
I have never waited until the warning light is on and never had any problems.
Perhaps I have just been lucky, I don't know.
One of these makes filling from a container very easy.

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[Tony50]

Check , changeforblue.com for info on Adblue

 

[BigPaul]

Circumnavigate the AdBlue system and you've no longer got a Euro 6 van. All new vehicles sold after 1 Sep 15 have to be Euro 6 compliant. The V5 'log book' thingy must be changed to reflect it's no longer Euro 6, and this could mean it not being legal. The VED will certainly change and the van will be charged for entering ULEZ areas. Road-side checks will soon spot the modification (these guys know more tricks that the lot of us together), the van taken off the road and the driver maybe charged with having an illegal vehicle and possibly tax avoidance (who knows?). Get caught on the Continent; will you see your van again? And, as Cejay , asked: Why, there is no benefit?
Having said all that; my son went for years in cars where he'd removed the cat, and got away with it.

I like to live life on the edge!

 

[Howard B]

Just filled up the van with ad blue
4600 since last topped up and it’s took 8.3 litres at the pump. That means it was still about half full.
Quick and clean, no mess.

Mine only managed@ 1600 miles before the light came on. Probably 70% motorway/ A road driving, the rest town and mountain roads.

 

[andyelbac]

I've never understood why anyone would purchase AdBlue from a forecourt when pretty much every motorway service station has them on pump, particularly as this is one of the very few things that are actually cheaper from a motorway service station than a normal garage, and ten times more convenient.

 

[Nigel L]

Have always used the expensive containers until reading this thread. Will be using a pump from now on
One basic question, is it ok to use the HGV ad blue pump? As read somewhere the flow rate is higher, is this a myth, or is it something to be wary of?
THANKS

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[Otter Spotter]

I've never understood why anyone would purchase AdBlue from a forecourt when pretty much every motorway service station has them on pump, particularly as this is one of the very few things that are actually cheaper from a motorway service station than a normal garage, and ten times more convenient.

It’s probably because most people would not want use a Motorway forecourt ( because of the ridiculous fuel prices) so would not know that the Adblue may be cheaper . I am not sure that having to go onto a motorway to find Adblue is also very convenient