Actual vet charges for Animal Health Certificates across UK

[Minxy]

Wading through the website provided by Nigel P I have found this page:

Non-commercial movement from non-EU countries

Near the bottom of the page under the heading ‘Exceptions’ there is this:

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Now this seems rather a weird way of putting it, but does it refer to a Pet Passport issued in the EU before you leave to go home again?

Can anyone else interpret what it actually means?

It says it is related movement INTO an EU country, NOT leaving an EU country eg to come back to the UK.

 

[maz]

It says it is related movement INTO an EU country, NOT leaving an EU country eg to come back to the UK.

But that’s what I’m interested in knowing from the EU - getting back into it with a previously issued EU Pet Passport.

I’m not in the slightest bit worried about getting back into the UK with one. That has already been clearly explained on the UK government website.

I think you may be confusing me with someone else.

 

[emjaiuk]

It says it is related movement INTO an EU country, NOT leaving an EU country eg to come back to the UK.

Mel. there is no problem leaving an EU country to come back to the UK, nothing has changed to the bit the UK has control over

 

[emjaiuk]

For those who travel widely, e.g. Morocco, were there any particular regulation to be followed when re-entering the EU from outside it?

 

[Koppersbeat]

Vets4Pets near Portsmouth today quoted me £160 + £39 for consultation.For each extra dog on same certificate up to max of 5 would be £50 !!!
They are not my vets and I told them I was doing a survey as they are one of the largest vet groups in the UK.
I am still waiting for my own vets in Chichester to get back to me.

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[Minxy]

Now this seems rather a weird way of putting it, but does it refer to a Pet Passport issued in the EU before you leave to go home again?

Can anyone else interpret what it actually means?

It says it is related movement INTO an EU country, NOT leaving an EU country eg to come back to the UK.

But that’s what I’m interested in knowing from the EU - getting back into it with a previously issued EU Pet Passport.

I’m not in the slightest bit worried about getting back into the UK with one. That has already been clearly explained on the UK government website.

I think you may be confusing me with someone else.

No I'm not, you asked what it actually means so I was simply saying what I interpreted it to be saying, nothing more!

I'm not confusing you with anyone.

Mel. there is no problem leaving an EU country to come back to the UK, nothing has changed to the bit the UK has control over

I already said that in my previous posts ... please read them again.

 

[Minxy]

I'm outta this, I'm just trying to help and so far we seem to have got most of it sussed out ... I'll leave you both to find out the info you want as obviously I'm just wasting my time.

 

[Casper46]

Can I throw a pebble in the pond.
I went to our French vets a couple of years ago and asked about if they would issue a French passport for Casper. They have known him since he was a pup, at least 10 years. We have always used them for trips back to U.K. at least 3 times a year. It was no problem they said, but he must have blood taken and it must be go to the laboratory to be tested. They would not issue it without the results. The result took 4 weeks to arrive back at the vets. He now has a passport with a French address on it, and he has travelled on it many times.
Things may have changed since then.

 

[Minxy]

Can I throw a pebble in the pond.
I went to our French vets a couple of years ago and asked about if they would issue a French passport for Casper. They have known him since he was a pup, at least 10 years. We have always used them for trips back to U.K. at least 3 times a year. It was no problem they said, but he must have blood taken and it must be go to the laboratory to be tested. They would not issue it without the results. The result took 4 weeks to arrive back at the vets. He now has a passport with a French address on it, and he has travelled on it many times.
Things may have changed since then.

It would be interesting to know why they insisted that the blood test had to be done as it hasn't been needed for the EU since the original scheme was changed in 2012.

 

[emjaiuk]

I already said that in my previous posts ... please read them again.

My apologies, but this thread is getting very confusing

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[Helen Ariel]

Yikes i think everyone is getting a bit bogged down. Good work has been done and I think now we just need to be patient and wait for some early adopters to test the water. I'm going to test the return to uk in March and then will be around Nov 2021 before I try out the eu passport for entering the eu but I'm not worried as has been stated it's not like a human citizen it's just a health document so will not matter what country the owner of the dog resides in as long as the passport has been correctly filled by an eu vet and vacs are up to date.

 

[Minxy]

Yikes i think everyone is getting a bit bogged down. Good work has been done and I think now we just need to be patient and wait for some early adopters to test the water. I'm going to test the return to uk in March and then will be around Nov 2021 before I try out the eu passport for entering the eu but I'm not worried as has been stated it's not like a human citizen it's just a health document so will not matter what country the owner of the dog resides in as long as the passport has been correctly filled by an eu vet and vacs are up to date.

When you do come back in March would you be willing to ask the EU pet checkers if they would definitely accept an EU issued pet passport for a UK resident dog? If so it would give us some idea of what we're likely to expect.

 

[Minxy]

My apologies, but this thread is getting very confusing

Ain't it just! My brain is now totally fried!

 

[Casper46]

It would be interesting to know why they insisted that the blood test had to be done as it hasn't been needed for the EU since the original scheme was changed in 2012

It would be interesting to know why they insisted that the blood test had to be done as it hasn't been needed for the EU since the original scheme was changed in 2012

It would be interesting to know why they insisted that the blood test had to be done as it hasn't been needed for the EU since the original scheme was changed in 2012.

The same reason as my UK vet told me that when a AHC was required that she could not complete it as Caspers original test was taken 21days after rabies injection and the AHC was expected to insist on 30 days. The fact that the goal posts have moved again could not be guessed at. I was trying to get ahead and have everything sorted before 31st December. At the same time she wanted stupid money to blood test him. That's the reason I paid 90 euros for blood test and new French passport.
I keep telling Casper that he will have to start catching his own food as I can't feed him and pay vets bills.

 

[Helen Ariel]

When you do come back in March would you be willing to ask the EU pet checkers if they would definitely accept an EU issued pet passport for a UK resident dog? If so it would give us some idea of what we're likely to expect.

Sure i can try but as stated by several vets a dog is not technically resident anywhere. Beech could travel with anybody, eu or uk resident back and forth for as long as she likes in any country as long as she has the correct health documents.

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[Nigel P]

Just to be sure and save further 'confusion' ... can you please give us details of exactly what you've asked or an extract from your query itself ...

certainly: I asked whether a PP issued in a member state (not the UK) would be a valid document for a UK resident to take their dog to the EU. I queried their wording in the brexit agreement which mentions a PP issued to a UK resident rather than a PP issued in the UK, they are not the same thing. I cited my own circumstances as having a dog whose passport was issued to an Irish resident (EU member state) but is now 'resident' in the UK.

My info from DEFRA and the EU brexit regulations document suggests that a PP issued in a member state is all that is required to travel to the EU. The only things to have changed being the GB version is no longer classed as an EU PP, hence the alternate route of AHC, secondly UK vets cannot make entries in a PP from the EU until/if they reach a new agreement about 'authorised vets'. I will update as I receive a reply.

 

[maz]

Vets4Pets near Portsmouth today quoted me £160 + £39 for consultation.For each extra dog on same certificate up to max of 5 would be £50 !!!
They are not my vets and I told them I was doing a survey as they are one of the largest vet groups in the UK.
I am still waiting for my own vets in Chichester to get back to me.

New record!

And a big thanks for getting the thread back on topic.

 

[Potty]

Might be worth quoting this to any vet who is charging more than us quoted here

Information about taking your pet to the European Union and the Animal Health Certificate

Taking your pet to the European Union and the Animal Health Certificate

www.rvc.ac.uk

 

[canopus]

Vets for Pets Newark and Lincoln branches both quoted £158.67, plus anything else they can nail you for. Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Just as an aside, Ukbandit is due to arrive in UK either today or tomorrow from Santander. They left the UK last year I believe.

Graham & Lynn from memory have two dogs, perhaps they may comment, although they've had a lot of sh1t going on with Covid tests and QR codes. They may be faced with a double dilemma when they disembark.
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[maz]

Might be worth quoting this to any vet who is charging more than us quoted here

Information about taking your pet to the European Union and the Animal Health Certificate

Taking your pet to the European Union and the Animal Health Certificate

www.rvc.ac.uk

They seem to have changed their wording. It used to say that they ‘recommended’ a charge of £106.50. Now it just mentions what they themselves will charge for an AHC. Although some of the profiteering vets mentioned in this thread are way over that figure, I still regard £106.50 as too high. Especially when you compare them to Jaws vet who will issue an AHC for £50.

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[maz]

Vets for Pets Newark and Lincoln branches both quoted £158.67, plus anything else they can nail you for. Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Just as an aside, Ukbandit is due to arrive in UK either today or tomorrow from Santander. They left the UK last year I believe.

Graham & Lynn from memory have two dogs, perhaps they may comment, although they've had a lot of sh1t going on with Covid tests and QR codes. They may be faced with a double dilemma when they disembark.
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Thanks for that, Ken.

At some point I might try to draw all the quoted vets charges and details together in one post, to make it easier for people to access. However, it would need to be editable way past the 30 min deadline to keep it up to date. I’ll have to find out from Jim if there’s a way of doing this.

Good luck to Graham and Lynn!

 

[Ukbandit]

Vets for Pets Newark and Lincoln branches both quoted £158.67, plus anything else they can nail you for. Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Just as an aside, Ukbandit is due to arrive in UK either today or tomorrow from Santander. They left the UK last year I believe.

Graham & Lynn from memory have two dogs, perhaps they may comment, although they've had a lot of sh1t going on with Covid tests and QR codes. They may be faced with a double dilemma when they disembark.
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Hi Ken, got on the boat yesterday with the Antigen test accepted no problem. Both dogs were allowed in Cabin even though on the web site it says only one dig in a cabin.

 

[Jim]

I’ll have to find out from @Jim if there’s a way of doing this.

I'm building a local knowledge directory, that will have a vets section, and reviews. We'll be able to add them there. They will be plotted on a map too.

 

[maz]

I'm building a local knowledge directory, that will have a vets section, and reviews. We'll be able to add them there. They will be plotted on a map too.

Brilliant! Thank you.

 

[Top Hat]

Might be worth quoting this to any vet who is charging more than us quoted here

Information about taking your pet to the European Union and the Animal Health Certificate

Taking your pet to the European Union and the Animal Health Certificate

www.rvc.ac.uk

Another thing worth quoting to your Vet is that M/H forums are buzzing with the fact that a PP can be issued by EU vets for as little as €15 with this a AHC is not required also rabies booster jabs done by uk may be lost to eu vets

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[Casper46]

Another thing worth quoting to your Vet is that M/H forums are buzzing with the fact that a PP can be issued by EU vets for as little as €15 with this a AHC is not required also rabies booster jabs done by uk may be lost to eu vets

Hopefully I am incorrect, but are some of the EU prices quoted just for the usual return worming vets visits, as opposed to them issuing a new passport.

 

[Top Hat]

Hopefully I am incorrect, but are some of the EU prices quoted just for the usual return worming vets visits, as opposed to them issuing a new passport.

bellabee posted #134 that he/she has been quoted €15 for a new Portuguese PP

 

[emjaiuk]

Could anyone who speaks/writes fluent French ask La Mailleraye if they would issue passports to English dogs, and if so what would be the cost and any additional vaccine requirements. I asked via email and Google translate ,(my normal way of booking an appointment,) during the summer but never had a reply.

Mon Véto - Cabinet vétérinaire de La Mailleraye Sur Seine

Mon Véto - Cabinet vétérinaire de La Mailleraye Sur Seine : Cabinet Mixte, Canine, Rurale

www.veterinaire-monveto.com

 

[John Barrett]

And you thought the vets were just having a laugh at us...
From the BBC News.

The Cheshire Cheese Company said it had been advised by an official to set up in the EU after it was forced to stop its exports to the bloc due to trade rules that came in on 1 January.

'Only solution'​

The firm, which sold £180,000 of cheese to the EU last year, found that every £25-30 gift box of cheese it sends to consumers on the Continent now needs a veterinary-approved health certificate costing £180.

 

[gus-lopez]

, I can easily see the French for example querying it.

Why ? It is the dog who has the passport , where he/she lives & who he/she travels with doesn't come in to it?

HOWEVER, we have never been in a position where we wanted to use it to enter the EU from a part II listed country.

As above it is the animals passport .If asked the answer is what has it got to do with me ? It is the dogs passport

That was whilst we were part of the EU though ... we don't know for sure what the situation is NOW .

The same.

That sounds like a good idea but as a UK resident will it be accepted at the Tunnel on return????

I've no idea about the tunnel but ferry companies just check the pet passport details & i scane the dog & they confirm the numbers tie up-.

but it still leaves the problem in asking a UK organization what EU entry officials will do,

What has it to do with them? The animal is holding a perfectly valid passport.Where he/she lives has no bearing on it whatsoever.

And if you think the mood of a French customs officer doesn’t affect the way he does his job then I wish you good luck with your travels

What has a French customs official got to do with your animal? I don't know what you do at ports but by the time I see one of them both myself , the wife if with me, & the dog have already passed the paperwork/passport test.

My thoughts, entirely. Surely, those checking the paperwork will have a check list of acceptable documents relating to the animals? Those documents are as listed in @Minxy Girl 's post #149. The documents either comply, or they don't.

If you offer a pet passport that is it. Doesn't matter where the animal lives.

2. Prior to 31/12/19 we were all using EU passports and the UK was an integral part of the EU regarding animal and plant health.

No you weren't .You were using Pet passports ISSUED in EU countries. You aren't in the EU now so the animal needs a new passport ,EU issued, or an ahc.

I have already done that and will update when I receive a reply (they quote 3 days!) The EU have quite a useful website, you can choose your language and explore a variety of topics.

I doubt if you will as we were notified that UK citizens, including ones who are permanent residents in other EU states & holding Identity cards, could no longer use any of the EU helpline systems.

For those who travel widely, e.g. Morocco, were there any particular regulation to be followed when re-entering the EU from outside it?

Yes to return into the EU the animal needs a titre test. The UK was exempted from that.

if they would definitely accept an EU issued pet passport for a UK resident dog?

As above it is a passport for an animal. where he lives doesn't come in to it & as long as the rabies & other injections are completed in a European vets the validity is maintained.

Sure i can try but as stated by several vets a dog is not technically resident anywhere. Beech could travel with anybody, eu or uk resident back and forth for as long as she likes in any country as long as she has the correct health documents.

Thank God . Someone who understands!

Hopefully I am incorrect, but are some of the EU prices quoted just for the usual return worming vets visits, as opposed to them issuing a new passport.

No a passport is as cheap as chips here. I seem to recall paying 33€ but having looked again it appears that was for his booster rabies & dhppil, jabs & the passport was thrown in. My vet doesn't charge for filling in & encapsulating the details when we have the worming done & usually I only pay 3€ for the tablet.

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