2.0, 2.2, 2.8, 3.0ltr MPG questions.

[Badknee]

Ok, as some of you may know we are in the process of buying MH and the choice is mind boggling.

So depending on which engine size fitted what sort of mpg do you good peeps get out of your pride and joy please mpg only 'cos I'm of that age, all diesel.

2.0
2.2
2.8
3.0.

 

[Flyingscotsman2]

Forget about mpg. Get oot enjoy the van......( let's all sing) tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree...... Lol

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Forget about mpg. Get oot enjoy the van......( let's all sing) tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree...... Lol

No singing, please

 

[Scout]

chipped 2.8 on a 3.850k 23 to 26 depending on speed, but I ve noticed it seems to have got better with more miles on the clook now 23k

 

[PhilandMena]

2.3 30 MPH @ 2000 RPM, 6th gear.

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[Techno]

I don't bother with brim to brim anymore I just watch the instrument avg reading as it is consistently 2 mpg optimistic so I just deduct 2
I reset it every second refill
Currently I've been managing to keep it between 28/30 achieved 29.2 on the 1500 miles Mosel holiday
My driving has been 60mph max
3.0 litre 160 comfortmatic 4250kg
Wifey prefers this sedate pace,

So in conclusion the best I get is 27


My AutocruiseStarspirit Peugeot 2.2 3300kg always managed 29/30 actual but I often drove faster then

 

[Badknee]

I thought it was generally found cruise control doesn't help mpg? The problem is when you come to a hill it will floor the throttle if necessary to maintain the set speed.

Your right but I take control of speed/revs/gears when climbing.

 

[Wildman]

2.1 merc with sprintmatic gearbox pulling 4.2T 25mpg average over trips of 2500 miles tank to tank.

 

[busby]

Yes but in the haulage industry 3 mpg can be the difference of changing the fleet or not. Over say 50,000 mls at said 3mpg it's an awful lot of fuel/mls.

Agree.. at between 7 and 10 mpg a slight difference is big bucks....Thank goodness i am out of it...BUSBY

 

[busby]

I would think to the average motorhomer (looking at the very low mileage on vans for sale) a couple of mpg is neither here nor there compared to the cost of the motorhome...BUSBY

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[Speve]

We have a tracker FB HIGHLINE with2.3 150 bhp engine plenty of power,over last year travelled 12000 miles averaged 25 mpg Ilike to potter rather than drive like a Grand Prix driver ,I think that's reasonable for a high 3850 KG van.

 

[tambo]

2.8idtd 25 - 28 mpg heavy right foot 3850kg a class mostly overloaded with scooter on back.

Previous 2.5 3500kg coachbuilt 23 - 25 mpg

Previous 2.8jtd 5 tonne coachbuilt 23mpg

 

[dave newell]

Wind resistance is the biggest element in fuel consumption and it increases by the cube of speed. Two of my vehicles: 2.0 litre JTD 2005 Ducato, SWB light van averages 35mpg mostly cruising at 56-58mph. Our camper is based on a 1996 4200KG GVW Iveco Turbo Daily with 2.8 Turbo charged (not intercooled) 100BHP motor (same lump fitted to 2.8 ducatos pre JTD), at 50MPH cruising speed towing a 1250KG trailer it returns an average of 26mpg, at 56 mph with trailer it returns 23mpg and at 60mph cruising with trailer it returns 20mpg on a sunny day. Running solo it returns 28 at 50, 26 at 56 and 24 at 60.

D.

 

[tambo]

Wind resistance is the biggest element in fuel consumption and it increases by the cube of speed. Two of my vehicles: 2.0 litre JTD 2005 Ducato, SWB light van averages 35mpg mostly cruising at 56-58mph. Our camper is based on a 1996 4200KG GVW Iveco Turbo Daily with 2.8 Turbo charged (not intercooled) 100BHP motor (same lump fitted to 2.8 ducatos pre JTD), at 50MPH cruising speed towing a 1250KG trailer it returns an average of 26mpg, at 56 mph with trailer it returns 23mpg and at 60mph cruising with trailer it returns 20mpg on a sunny day. Running solo it returns 28 at 50, 26 at 56 and 24 at 60.

D.

Just out of curiosity how are you calculating that? ....or are you going by on board computer

Just not sure how you can calculate mpg at different speeds

 

[mitzimad]

we get around 28 mpg im not a lightfooted driver strange thing is the only time weve seen better was after filling up in luxembourg with shell it shot up to 33 and slowly dropped away afterwards so maybe theres a difference in fuels as well we use tescos at home as we get the 20p a litre reduction most months

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[errpaul]

2.8 jtd we get 19mpg at 70mph towing a 1300 kg box trailer.
Solo at 55-60 this goes up to 25 mpg.
The wind does make a difference though as a long journey south with a strong headwind can take a few mpg off those figures from experience.

 

[Badknee]

Thanks for all your replies, it seems that none of your averages have been below 25 mpg which is fine. Thanks again.

 

[errpaul]

Just out of curiosity how are you calculating that? ....or are you going by on board computer

Just not sure how you can calculate mpg at different speeds

I quote mine from when we've done longer motorway or french toll runs. A few days ago for example in france, cruising with the cruise control at 70mph. When you're doing that speed it's only a few hours before you start to think about filling the tank again and so then I work it brim to brim.
Of course in reality the actual figure is lower again as due to the inaccuracy of speedometer and odometers in vehicles, but that's going a bit far I think!

Depending how I feel and the traffic conditions will depend the speed I drive, but generally look to use cruise, so if busy then speed slower so not braking all the time. If clear then usually set to 70mph.
Not really worked out a road driving with stop start but around the same I think as usually get to around 250 miles before thinking I must find somewhere to fill up.

 

[Badknee]

Not really worked out a road driving with stop start but around the same I think as usually get to around 250 miles before thinking I must find somewhere to fill up.

Haha, In my works Renault Trafic half loaded with tools and stock 2.2 130 I'm looking for fuel about 720/750mls in to a tank.

 

[tambo]

250 miles to a tank!

Jees that's thirsty ....i get between 250 and 275 to £50 of diesel .....on a full tank im up near 450

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[errpaul]

That takes us to around a 1/4 of a tank when look to refill. Is around 330 odd when showing very close to empty.
We get far less from our car! That only does 250 to empty!

 

[dave newell]

Just out of curiosity how are you calculating that? ....or are you going by on board computer

Just not sure how you can calculate mpg at different speeds

Tankful to tankful and a calculator. The different speeds are quoted because they are the cruising speeds used on motorway hauls. Neither vehicle has on board computer and even if they did I would do tankful to tankful becuase on board comps are notoriously inaccurate on fuel consumption.

D.

 

[tambo]

Tankful to tankful and a calculator. The different speeds are quoted because they are the cruising speeds used on motorway hauls. Neither vehicle has on board computer and even if they did I would do tankful to tankful becuase on board comps are notoriously inaccurate on fuel consumption.

D.

Yep that's how I work mine out i just wondered how he was calculating the different mpg for different speeds


I've never used a full tank on a motorway lol.......never on one that long

 

[dave newell]

Yep that's how I work mine out i just wondered how he was calculating the different mpg for different speeds


I've never used a full tank on a motorway lol.......never on one that long

The Iveco does a little over 300 miles to a tankful so a run to Lincoln or Peterborough for example will use about 3/4 of a tank which is enough to do a calc on, done several times it gives a good average figure.

D.

 

[edgy]

Err paul I thought the speed limit towing any trailer was 60 mph. Don't want you getting any points

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[drago35uk]

Every motorhome I've had MPG has been sh**e. It's a big uneconomical brick...goes with the territory. Not a believer in saying mine gets this or this just take it as read they are all uneconomical bricks.

 

[tambo]

Every motorhome I've had MPG has been sh**e. It's a big uneconomical brick...goes with the territory. Not a believer in saying mine gets this or this just take it as read they are all uneconomical bricks.

I don't think theyre that uneconomical I've had many cars that's got less mpg than my mh high 20 ' s pretty good considering the size

 

[haganap]

I agree the day u start worrying about mpg get rid of van.....

Not really true when your first buying a van is it? If you use it you can have a massive difference. at 8-10 mpg which is the difference between say a panel van and mine, and doing 10-20k per year, you do the sums over a 4 or 5 year ownership. All of a sudden you use a lot of fuel tokens if you fancy doubling up as an everyday vechile or doing some proper touring.

I would think to the average motorhomer (looking at the very low mileage on vans for sale) a couple of mpg is neither here nor there compared to the cost of the motorhome...BUSBY

as I said above, with all our experrience its one of the first things we would take in to consideration when changing the van.

Thanks for all your replies, it seems that none of your averages have been below 25 mpg which is fine. Thanks again.

that's because not everyone is being entirely honest of they are all old retired folk with years to get to their destination.
I have a ducato 2.3 remapped 2008 (the ones that don't go backwards allegedly) when I first took ownership I was lucky to get 19 mpg (4.5 ton van with overcab block of flat beds) As I have to go faster than everyone else, I have actually seen against a head wind (as Dave Newall says) as low as 16 mpg at 70 mpg fully loaded returning up the toll roads.

Mine is remapped (which is another discussion) and I now get between 22 and 27 mpg depending on wind resistance and how much of a hurry i am in. The most recent 5000 miles have averaged out at 24.8 mpg (fill to fill) a friend with exactly the same van but the 3-0L version gets a little bit better even when we have used the same route at the same time (approx 2mpg better over 2000 mile trip)

Every motorhome I've had MPG has been sh**e. It's a big uneconomical brick...goes with the territory. Not a believer in saying mine gets this or this just take it as read they are all uneconomical bricks.

yep they sure are but worth every penny..... ;-)

 

[Flyingscotsman2]

Not really true when your first buying a van is it? If you use it you can have a massive difference. at 8-10 mpg which is the difference between say a panel van and mine, and doing 10-20k per year, you do the sums over a 4 or 5 year ownership. All of a sudden you use a lot of fuel tokens if you fancy doubling up as an everyday vechile or doing some proper touring.


as I said above, with all our experrience its one of the first things we would take in to consideration when changing the van.



that's because not everyone is being entirely honest of they are all old retired folk with years to get to their destination.
I have a ducato 2.3 remapped 2008 (the ones that don't go backwards allegedly) when I first took ownership I was lucky to get 19 mpg (4.5 ton van with overcab block of flat beds) As I have to go faster than everyone else, I have actually seen against a head wind (as Dave Newall says) as low as 16 mpg at 70 mpg fully loaded returning up the toll roads.

Mine is remapped (which is another discussion) and I now get between 22 and 27 mpg depending on wind resistance and how much of a hurry i am in. The most recent 5000 miles have averaged out at 24.8 mpg (fill to fill) a friend with exactly the same van but the 3-0L version gets a little bit better even when we have used the same route at the same time (approx 2mpg better over 2000 mile trip)



yep they sure are but worth every penny..... ;-)

Well hag if your watching or worrying wat the vans doing May it's not the right time to get a van. We bought our van new 2 yrs ago and I have done 33 thousand miles I do go for the best price for fuel but I don't worry about mpg. I like to enjoy motorhoming.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Right with you there, Hugh. Gave up worrying about it a long time ago, but keep a track out of interest, just in case there is a dramatic change.

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[haganap]

Not the right time to get a van? I don't understand, ive had one 10 years.... I too enjoy motorhoming as Im sure many others do, I may enjoy it much more if I had a concorde and fulltimed, but I go for what I can afford so I don't have to worry about MPG. The OP is asking for advice, he doesn't know or is unsure what difference it makes, its a valid question.
he may have a fuel budget of 10k per year or 5k per year and therefore its very relevent to him exactly how Shite his consumption is going to be as it is to me and many others, a few years ago when fuel prices hit sky high prices I would consider seriously going very far as teh MPG of my van at the time was a very big question.