1990 hymer 964

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Been tralling through ebay and autotrader and came across a 1990 hymer 964 at well under budget... Bearing in mind that whatever we buy is going to be our home... Is it too old?... We love photography and want to go places in Scotland and around the uk.... Could one of them go around the hairpins on the Applecross pass or on the road to the quirang on skye.... Layout wise its great and the money left over could go towards a cambelt and new tyres before we really start getting out in it... Just not sure about parts and the age
 
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My son has my 1991 Eribacar, built by Hymer on a Renault chassis. Only 5.5m long but the Hymer body has a steel frame.
Chassis and MOT history need to be checked carefully.
The Eribacar is still being used and has been all over Europe, Scotland skiing this year and Poland next is planned.
Spares can be more difficult to source but not impossible.
As far as driving - if a bus, rubbish truck or milk lorry can go, so can you
Good luck
 
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Barclaybasher said:
My son has my 1991 Eribacar, built by Hymer on a Renault chassis. Only 5.5m long but the Hymer body has a steel frame.
Chassis and MOT history need to be checked carefully.
The Eribacar is still being used and has been all over Europe, Scotland skiing this year and Poland next is planned.
Spares can be more difficult to source but not impossible.
As far as driving - if a bus, rubbish truck or milk lorry can go, so can you
Good luck
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I've checked the mot history and there was a bit of welding a few years ago but been clean ever since with no advisories
 
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Bfb1150gs said:
Been tralling through ebay and autotrader and came across a 1990 hymer 964 at well under budget... Bearing in mind that whatever we buy is going to be our home... Is it too old?... We love photography and want to go places in Scotland and around the uk.... Could one of them go around the hairpins on the Applecross pass or on the road to the quirang on skye.... Layout wise its great and the money left over could go towards a cambelt and new tyres before we really start getting out in it... Just not sure about parts and the age
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Ours is 1992. We've had it 8 years. We've been up to the Russia border in Estonia, the Algeria border in Morocco and pretty much everywhere in between .

BUT it's 4 ton , front wheel drive 94 bhp , has a poor turning circle so really doesn't like steep difficult mountain climbs. Crawling up hills in first gear can be stressful.

Would it get over Applecross? Probably but I wouldn't do it unless I had to .

Parts haven't been a problem , Coastal Motorhomes is a great supplier.

As Barclaybasher says, there's no fancy electronics to go wrong.

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We have a 1999 Eura Mobil on a fiat 2.8itd. Yes it’s sluggish up hills unless you get a run up. Sometimes 2nd or first is needed but that’s only on the very steep. Just be patient & keep revs over 2k or up to 3k if you feel the need to change up a gear. On the flat or on dual carriage going @50mph it’s not a problem & most hills/gradients are taken in 4 or 5.
We now love our van after getting over some earlier issues which we now think was contaminated fuel. Everything works including the cab air con. Which in a 25 year old van ain’t bad.

That particular van looks over 3.5t so check you have c1 on licence.

Happy shopping & welcome.
 
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Baggydave said:
We have a 1999 Eura Mobil on a fiat 2.8itd. Yes it’s sluggish up hills unless you get a run up. Sometimes 2nd or first is needed but that’s only on the very steep. Just be patient & keep revs over 2k or up to 3k if you feel the need to change up a gear. On the flat or on dual carriage going @50mph it’s not a problem & most hills/gradients are taken in 4 or 5.
We now love our van after getting over some earlier issues which we now think was contaminated fuel. Everything works including the cab air con. Which in a 25 year old van ain’t bad.

That particular van looks over 3.5t so check you have c1 on licence.

Happy shopping & welcome.
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Me and my girlfriend have a c1 licence so thats no problem
 
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I looked at that one on ebay and it looks not bad , personally I prefer older vans too . My own van is a 1998 , the tag axles can sometimes be a little restrictive for parking and you've to watch the ground clearance at the rear but otherwise OK. Bear in mind that van will be slow up hills but then so is mine , windy steep hills you'll be in 2nd gear most of the way . One good thing about old hymers is they're pretty good when it comes to leaks etc . There's also a tag axle euramobil on ebay for your budget I spotted the other day. Old vans will need ongoing maintenance of course but they're a lot easier to work on than newer vans and there's less to go wrong with it.

Just make sure you give it a right good going over when viewing it. But anything can be fixed really. I feel I've practically rebuilt this van 😁🤣
 
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Actually there's now 2 on ebay .. one that's been painted inside etc and one that's original. Personally I'd buy the one that was original over the painted one but that's just me.



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Northernraider said:
Actually there's now 2 on ebay .. one that's been painted inside etc and one that's original. Personally I'd buy the one that was original over the painted one but that's just me.



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Northernraider said:
Actually there's now 2 on ebay .. one that's been painted inside etc and one that's original. Personally I'd buy the one that was original over the painted one but that's just me.



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Haven't seen that last one. I like it... Will have to check the mot history later👍
 
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Bfb1150gs said:
I've checked the mot history and there was a bit of welding a few years ago but been clean ever since with no advisories
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No advisories on a 34 year old vehicle for several years on the trot would be a red flag to me.
 
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No advisories on a 34 year old vehicle for several years on the trot would be a red flag to me.
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Why?

It's exactly the opposite for me.

Previous owner owned it 30 years and looked after it.

My vehicles very rarely have advisories as I check it over prior to getting mot done and I fix anything likely to be advised.

Advisories were the worst creation ever on Mot certificate, they are non serious issues and are often just done by the tester to show he's looked at the vehicle.

I would rather they stuck to the old method of just telling you anything they'd observed.

Advisories put off people who haven't a clue about vehicles. And often state the downright obvious.

Ie " protective covers covering engine so could not inspect " duh

"Underside has surface corrosion " obviously because it has untreated/painted metal parts and it's over 3 years old.

"Brake pipes covered in grease" duh...because its stopping them from corroding.


I've used the Same 2 mot stations for nearly 20 years which I now can no longer use and I'm dreading taking my camper to someone different as some of them are ridiculous.
 
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MisterB said:
I'm also in the original camp !! Not sure why people think it's the way to go to paint over everything in a kitchen make over style. I think it devalues the motorhome ....
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I can see why they do it .. my van isn't too bad inside or at least the solid wood parts are good , but the bits that are the plastic coated furniture board are faded with the sun and a bit discoulored.. but I'm not sure paint is the way to go as it gets chipped and discoulored so needs redoing every few years. I think at the value that van is it probably won't depreciate a lot more but it does make it very personal and I think when a van gets to classic status a lot of people value original condition. It still looks a good van for the money I just think the inside of the other one looks better. Both are excellent value though consider and if they're watertight and mechanically sound they'll last years. The 1990 one will also be tax ,mot and ulez exempt I'm just 6 short years which Is an added bonus.

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Northernraider said:
Why?

It's exactly the opposite for me.

Previous owner owned it 30 years and looked after it.

My vehicles very rarely have advisories as I check it over prior to getting mot done and I fix anything likely to be advised.

Advisories were the worst creation ever on Mot certificate, they are non serious issues and are often just done by the tester to show he's looked at the vehicle.

I would rather they stuck to the old method of just telling you anything they'd observed.

Advisories put off people who haven't a clue about vehicles. And often state the downright obvious.

Ie " protective covers covering engine so could not inspect " duh

"Underside has surface corrosion " obviously because it has untreated/painted metal parts and it's over 3 years old.

"Brake pipes covered in grease" duh...because its stopping them from corroding.


I've used the Same 2 mot stations for nearly 20 years which I now can no longer use and I'm dreading taking my camper to someone different as some of them are ridiculous.
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Because it is highly unlikely that a 30 plus year old vehicle will pass mot after mot with no advisories.
Been there done that got the tee shirt and the massive welding invoices to prove.
 
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So many posts on this thread missing for me because of someone having me on double ignore is very annoying as there is nothing I can do about it ( other than log out obviously)
 
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headlight said:
Because it is highly unlikely that a 30 plus year old vehicle will pass mot after mot with no advisories.
Been there done that got the tee shirt and the massive welding invoices to prove.
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It's very likely if it's had 1 owner in that time who knows the vehicle well.

When a vehicle has advisories every year it tells me the owner relies on the mot before doing any maintenance. And if its the same advisories year after year it tells me the person spends as little as possible on maintenance.

On this particular van the owner specifies that the previous owner owned the van for 30 years and has kept a meticulous list of all work done.

But it has had numerous advisories over the years by the looks of it.

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He may have had a service and pre MOT check - be pretty poor if the garage then listed advisories....
 
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Northernraider said:
It's very likely if it's had 1 owner in that time who knows the vehicle well.

When a vehicle has advisories every year it tells me the owner relies on the mot before doing any maintenance. And if its the same advisories year after year it tells me the person spends as little as possible on maintenance.

On this particular van the owner specifies that the previous owner owned the van for 30 years and has kept a meticulous list of all work done.

But it has had numerous advisories over the years by the looks of it.
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I would be more than a little surprised if a 34 year old vehicle, at the very least, didn't have sufficient corrosion underneath, no matter how little, to warrant an advisory.
Anyway I haven't seen the vehicle, maybe it is as pristine as the day it was built.
 
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headlight said:
I would be more than a little surprised if a 34 year old vehicle, at the very least, didn't have sufficient corrosion underneath, no matter how little, to warrant an advisory.
Anyway I haven't seen the vehicle, maybe it is as pristine as the day it was built.
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My 23 year old ducato based MH has never had an advisory for corrosion in any part...
 
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Whatever i buy its going over my mates pit.. Im getting a cheap battery paint sprayer and blasting the underside with vactan rust killer and when thats dry in gonna do the same with lanoguard to try and stop any more corrosion
 
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headlight said:
I would be more than a little surprised if a 34 year old vehicle, at the very least, didn't have sufficient corrosion underneath, no matter how little, to warrant an advisory.
Anyway I haven't seen the vehicle, maybe it is as pristine as the day it was built.
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The vehicle has had lots of advisories. And had issues with corrosion. He never at anytime said it had never had any advisories. He stated that it required welding some years ago ( actually 2019) and it was clean since.

As I said earlier though there are different types of mot inspectors some are ridiculous. There's no point putting "surface corrosion on underside " unless it's something serious as every vehicle regardless of how old will have some.

Advisories are pointless as it very much depends on the tester.

It serves no purpose

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Barclaybasher said:
My 23 year old ducato based MH has never had an advisory for corrosion in any part...
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This iveco I have had an advisory for several years regarding an inner wing being corroded, it would never be a fail on this as the inner wing is non structural on an iveco as it has a full length independent chassis. But an inner wing is structural on a fiat ducato .

The thing is it was advised for 3 or 4 years , then no mention for a few years then advised again the previous 3 years before I bought it. So one of the first things I did was cut out that section of inner wing , plate it with aluminium and fibreglass and paint it. No more advisory and it won't rust again either.


There was never any point in advising it because it wasn't dangerous , didn't cause any issues other than make an mot sheet look untidy.
 
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Bfb1150gs said:
Whatever i buy its going over my mates pit.. Im getting a cheap battery paint sprayer and blasting the underside with vactan rust killer and when thats dry in gonna do the same with lanoguard to try and stop any more corrosion
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I'm having the full underside of mine sanded and resprayed this winter in Morocco.


Just make sure you remove as much rust and flakey paint before spraying anything over it .
 
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Of those two I’d deffo go the second even though the first one was with owner for 30 years and by looks of it he has every detail on what he’s bought for it. the fact it has been poorly hand painted, the shower are looks like it would be concern and not very cleanly presented by either the new owner or last makes me suspect poor overall maintenance and care. Second one although more money looks better presented and maintained.
Both will be slow at that size with a 2.5d even if it’s turbocharged 4t is a big ask, you would need to plan and watch the road to get the best from it.
Yes older vehicles will need more maintenance but you plan for this and it becomes preventative maintenance rather than just maintenance for a issue that has you broken down.
 
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I've found a 3rd one on ebay at the same price as the second but nowhere near as nice looking .

That one I posted at £11.995 was only listed last night and to be honest I don't think it will hang around long so if the op is interested I'd move sooner than later to view it .
 
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Northernraider said:
I've found a 3rd one on ebay at the same price as the second but nowhere near as nice looking .

That one I posted at £11.995 was only listed last night and to be honest I don't think it will hang around long so if the op is interested I'd move sooner than later to view it .
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Link to the third one Tam?
 
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