£3,000 for a ebike!

[Lenny HB]

You can buy a brand new 110cc Honda Vision for about £1700.
.

They are too hard to peddle.

 

[Richard n Ann]

You'll find if you bothered to investigate that there is far far more workmanship and engineering in any high end bicycle than there is in a Honda Vision or any other mass produced low end basic motorcycle.

Ooooooh! Touched a nerve there

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Ooooooh! Touched a nerve there

Not at all. I don't have any high end bikes. I don't ride enough any more to warrant one.

Just pointing out the absurdity of suggesting that some entry level put-put has any workmanship at all never mind more than a high end hand built bicycle

 

[Richard n Ann]

I think your being a bit unfair to Honda there.. to suggest Honda, you know, the high quality and arguably the best motorcycle brand in the world would build a scooter with "no workmanship at all" is a bit silly.

OK then forget workmanship for the minute, what about the cost of the components and raw materials, there is a lot more of them on a scooter, and everything is bigger and heavier duty.

PS you're probably confusing Honda with some pile of scrap British motorcycle

 

[Hotelman]

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[Hotelman]

Seen today in Amsterdam!!!

 

[Pausim]

I owned a Honda CB and I agree it was well engineered. I now own a Gocycle. The designer left a dream job at McLaren Cars to dedicate all of his time to making an exceptional e-bike. Like the Kalkhoff the Gocycle is expensive but they certainly don't come second in design and engineering terms.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

Now this is nice,
And being carbon will be good if you have payload issues.

 

[Khizzie]

You'll find if you bothered to investigate that there is far far more workmanship and engineering in any high end bicycle than there is in a Honda Vision or any other mass produced low end basic motorcycle.

Still a bike you have to pedal though Nick no matter how much engineering goes into it.

 

[Khizzie]

I think your being a bit unfair to Honda there.. to suggest Honda, you know, the high quality and arguably the best motorcycle brand in the world would build a scooter with "no workmanship at all" is a bit silly.

OK then forget workmanship for the minute, what about the cost of the components and raw materials, there is a lot more of them on a scooter, and everything is bigger and heavier duty.

PS you're probably confusing Honda with some pile of scrap British motorcycle

British bikes are not a pile of scrap .you're confusing jap crap with quality.lol

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[Khizzie]

Great bike. You get what you pay for

£1 75 p ??? Lol

 

[Mr B]

Seen these and thought Jesus
eBay item no
302210343595

 

[Richard n Ann]

View attachment 168962

About the same price as this then:

Look at this on eBay

Crazy

 

[Robert Clark]

Great bike. You get what you pay for

Like most things in life Nick
Often people sneer and say 'more money than sense'
But maybe people with more money have accumulated said money because they have more sense?

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Like most things in life Chris
Often people sneer and say 'more money than sense'
But maybe people with more money have accumulated said money because they have more sense?

Who's Chris?

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[Richard n Ann]

Like most things in life Chris
Often people sneer and say 'more money than sense'
But maybe people with more money have accumulated said money because they have more sense?

What I think though, is people with lots of flashy possessions haven't got a pot to pee in and are up to their necks in debt. And I bet it's true half the time.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

I think your being a bit unfair to Honda there.. to suggest Honda, you know, the high quality and arguably the best motorcycle brand in the world would build a scooter with "no workmanship at all" is a bit silly.

OK then forget workmanship for the minute, what about the cost of the components and raw materials, there is a lot more of them on a scooter, and everything is bigger and heavier duty.

PS you're probably confusing Honda with some pile of scrap British motorcycle

Honda unquestionably do build high end well engineered bikes.

The Vision isn't one of them though.

As for them being the best brand in the world all I can say is

 

[Robert Clark]

Who's Chris?

Sorry Nick
Dyslexia will be the death of me
after Mrs C of course
You're nothing like Chris
Far more svelt and intelligent

 

[Richard n Ann]

Odds are you've never seen a Honda vision let alone owned one!

Best Motorcycle brand... and I did say arguably.

 

[Tootles]

Sorry Nick
Dyslexia will be the death of me
after Mrs C of course
You're nothing like Chris
Far more svelt and intelligent

And a man??

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[Barclaybasher]

Riese & Muller ebike (battery hidden by bag), hardly used £950 - Bosch crank drive

Advantage over Honda Vision or Wave which I considered

- no road tax, insurance, MOT or papers needed

and only weighs 25kg

 

[Robert Clark]

What I think though, is people with lots of flashy possessions haven't got a pot to pee in and are up to their necks in debt. And I bet it's true half the time.

You did a survey
Or just stating an opinion?

 

[Robert Clark]

And a man??

How can you be sure ?

 

[Richard n Ann]

You did a survey
Or just stating an opinion?

Well it starts with "What I think" so that means it's just my opinion

 

[Robert Clark]

Well it starts with "What I think" so that means it's just my opinion

In that case I shall file it with the rest of the biased, unfounded opinions I hear every day.

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

What I think though, is people with lots of flashy possessions haven't got a pot to pee in and are up to their necks in debt. And I bet it's true half the time.

I cannot be bothered worrying what debt other people have and like to see people enjoying what they have and worked for.
I have mates who are multi millionaires and my best mate from school has a car worth less than a decent meal out but I don't worry about it or judge them.
You make the best out of what you have, my brother in law never goes out buys presents takes my sister out for a meal or bothered taking his kids out when they were younger all he does is save for when he retires?
Just a sad bloke.
You are only going to die once so best enjoy it.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Odds are you've never seen a Honda vision let alone owned one!

Best Motorcycle brand... and I did say arguably.

Of course I've seen one and I've played around with one. They're cheaply produced, thrown together, entry level put-puts.

Chances of me ever buying one? Somewhere considerably less than zero.

 

[Richard n Ann]

In that case I shall file it with the rest of the biased, unfounded opinions I hear every day.

That IS Definitely my opinion. You can't have an unfounded opinion because that's all it is... my opinion.. and please feel free to disregard it

 

[Richard n Ann]

Of course I've seen one and I've played around with one. They're cheaply produced, thrown together, entry level put-puts.

Chances of me ever buying one? Somewhere considerably less than zero.

Just out of interest then, what do you think to the Chinese scooters, that incidentally are MUCH cheaper than the Honda.

PS I know you're having a laugh

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Just out of interest then, what do you think to the Chinese scooters, that incidentally are MUCH cheaper than the Honda.

PS I know you're having a laugh

They're even worse

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