Oh dear! I've only gone and bought a Milk Float.

[Lenny HB]

Lenny HB I forgot to show it's replacement. The milk float has become a tanker.


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I was going to say is it an S5 then Paul posted.
Paul's is a better color.

 

[Minxy]

Finally picked it up Tuesday before last. The metallic red looks better with a bit of sun on it.

It was getting a bit tight for space down the side of the house.
The Peugeot Partner van is playing up at present, so is at the back out of the way, the Beamer is now not tax or insured, and the MG needs to be next to the charger, so the motorhome is sitting out in front of the house for now, saves having to play musical chair to get the MH out.

Nah it's "Butterflies"

 

[lunarman]

I was going to say is it an S5 then Paul posted.
Paul's is a better color.

Already had Red on the 4. But then silver was the only colour left in the deal that I got. So a change is as good as a rest or so they say.

 

[Lenny HB]

Already had Red on the 4. But then silver was the only colour left in the deal that I got. So a change is as good as a rest or so they say.

Like my bright orange, when I've got my sunglasses on.

 

[lunarman]

Like my bright orange, when I've got my sunglasses on.

It'll be great for Halloween you can dress it up as a pumpkin

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[Guigsy]

For those still saying EVs will always be too expensive... How about a new one for £10k?

Ok, it's a stretch, it's a pre-reg and the Dacia Spring will only just about do 70mph and not much more than 100 useful miles. But I think it still counts.

It’s crazy that a new Dacia Spring EV can now be yours for just £10k | Auto Express

Mike Rutherford thinks the Dacia Spring is the electric car bargain of the year

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[gus-lopez]

IMHO keeping things simple is the way to go.

Nothing simple about having to remember to turn on/off apps to fill a vehicle. That's work.

 

[bobnick]

5 miles on the clock. New, £10,499.

 

[starquake]

For those still saying EVs will always be too expensive... How about a new one for £10k?

I'd still go for a 2020 or 2021 Niro 4 or 4+ spec. About same money, still has 3 years warranty remaining assuming serviced, and will do 280-300 on a recharge, and will do > 80 if you push it, but wont get that range if you drive above 70. At 70 you will get the 280-300.

 

[starquake]

Nothing simple about having to remember to turn on/off apps to fill a vehicle. That's work.

As pointed out many times, like cars, you can get fuel cards to avoid this. The Octopus one now works on every recharger in UK minus the BP one's near enough. And by law ALL 50kw chargers or higher are required to take contactless. You use the octopus card to save money (10% cheaper for those on Octopus leccy at home than paying contactless typically). Unless you fill your card using a cheque + guarantee card, it's identical to fuelling payment wise.

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[Odd-no-more]

For those still saying EVs will always be too expensive... How about a new one for £10k?

Ok, it's a stretch, it's a pre-reg and the Dacia Spring will only just about do 70mph and not much more than 100 useful miles. But I think it still counts.

It’s crazy that a new Dacia Spring EV can now be yours for just £10k | Auto Express

Mike Rutherford thinks the Dacia Spring is the electric car bargain of the year

www.autoexpress.co.uk

I was given one of these as a courtesy car when my car was being serviced. It's very small but it has everything a car should. It drives well, but as you say a limited range. It would be ok as a shopping car or for shortish commutes. I charged it overnight with a granny charger. I'm sure it will be cheap to run.

 

[BikerGraham]

As pointed out many times, like cars, you can get fuel cards to avoid this. The Octopus one now works on every recharger in UK minus the BP one's near enough. And by law ALL 50kw chargers or higher are required to take contactless. You use the octopus card to save money (10% cheaper for those on Octopus leccy at home than paying contactless typically). Unless you fill your card using a cheque + guarantee card, it's identical to fuelling payment wise.

Just as an observation

Went to the local sports centre this morning to go swimming. There are 3 EV chargers. Each with two charging points so 6 in all.

When I went in every one of the 6 spots was taken by an EV. Not one of them was charging.

When I left, little over an hour later. Again all 6 charging spots were taken up by EV’s and again not one of them were charging.

Yep the chargers do and were working.

Most times when I visit there are at least half a dozen cars parked there and not charging. On occasion I do find one actually plugged in !!!

Why, just why was my question to myself. What a bunch of selfish self centred tw**s

 

[starquake]

Why, just why was my question to myself. What a bunch of selfish self centred tw**s

COmpletely agree. Some charger vendors actually charge for this with cameras like parking eye enforcing you charge and issueing 100 quid fines. All should do this.

I actually have seen (this year) a PHEV park up at at EV charge point at the Winchester services (south) pull out a AC charge cable and proceed in not activating it due to the charge point there being nearer the entrance. Thats an asshat thing to do as it stops an actual EV charging in same spot, I did report it to the operator, too pictures, as I am hoping they have a fine in post. A PHEV even on AC couldnt' even charge 3kw in an hour and the vendors ususally stop the AC working at such a slow rate, as it's intended for (older era) Zoe's with faster AC charging (Zoe can charge at 44kw on same).

Worse I should add this was the ONLY Zoe charger at those services, so a poor Zoe user had to drive without charging when they pulled up (they also reported the ass).

 

[Guigsy]

I'm hoping that informal EV charging courtesies will begin to appear, so people don't hog chargers. That, or they'll have to do what Tesla already do, and you pay whether you're charging or not. Tesla also had the idea that your car would go and park itself elsewhere when it's done, but I think that might be a way off.

 

[starquake]

I'm hoping that informal EV charging courtesies will begin to appear, so people don't hog chargers. That, or they'll have to do what Tesla already do, and you pay whether you're charging or not. Tesla also had the idea that your car would go and park itself elsewhere when it's done, but I think that might be a way off.

I think the most and worst thing inconsiderate EV owners do today is like above, stealing the single Zoe charger or charging on a dual CCS/Chademo charger when a CCS only one is empty (thus depriviing a Nissan Leaf owner). Fair enough if all were used when you start, but using CCS/Chademo units (which are now sometimes only 2 of 12 chargers) otherwise is rude in my book.

Similar as you probably inferring to people taking the additional 30 mins to charge 80-100% in a 400V EV. Fair enough if you have a modern 800v beast that can charge that in 5 minutes, but for all other drivers, they should be forced to leave at 80%.

We had to publically charge weekend before last up at Humber Bridge (12 EV chargers at the services), and we were in and out in 5 mins and around 15kwh charged. The guy next to us, was (according to the screen) at 85% and had 25 mins left to put only 10 more kwh in. (Demonstrating the uselessness of his EV van on the 85-100% range). I suspect he wait being paid to charge and thus running up his hours with his employer.

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[Guigsy]

Similar as you probably inferring to people taking the additional 30 mins to charge 80-100% in a 400V EV. Fair enough if you have a modern 800v beast that can charge that in 5 minutes, but for all other drivers, they should be forced to leave at 80%.

We had to publically charge weekend before last up at Humber Bridge (12 EV chargers at the services), and we were in and out in 5 mins and around 15kwh charged. The guy next to us, was (according to the screen) at 85% and had 25 mins left to put only 10 more kwh in. (Demonstrating the uselessness of his EV van on the 85-100% range). I suspect he wait being paid to charge and thus running up his hours with his employer.

To emphasise this point to non-EV users...

If you're doing a long trip where you're going to need to add 80% or more to your battery during the trip to make it to your destination, it's probably faster to make two short stops to charge than one long stop. This is because the car charges fastest when the battery is roughly half full (although the curve changes a lot depending on the vehicle, and the battery temperature). So don't run it too low, or charge it too full, because it'll just slow you down. It's almost certainly not worth charging beyond 80% of full charge because the rate drops off so quickly.

Many EV in-dash satnavs will do this planning for you. Or phone apps and websites like ABRP will do the same thing.

 

[Scottish Scrutineer]

We’ve just joined the milk float club with a 2 year old Cupra Born replacing a 2020 MINI Clubman Cooper S. It’s done just over 14k miles and is the v2 spec with the 58kWh battery. Not too big, goes as well as the MINI and is good for Katharine’s commute to work and the majority of our domestic journeys.
Zappi charger being installed on Wednesday, electricity supplier changing to Octopus, and our ASHP install was finished on Friday. I was considering using it to go to London later this week as I’m at Excel for Formula E, but under a bit of time pressure, so using the VW Shuttle.

 

[Lenny HB]

I've been using the Mg4 more than I used the petrol car. Last Monday I went up to Greenwich to pick something up for my daughter and Tuesday took other daughter and family to Heathrow.
300 miles that would have been two months driving in the petrol car in two days. Didn't even mind being on the M25 in rush hour as all I had to do was steer, didn't touch the peddles, very relaxing to drive.

 

[PORKSTER]

When I was working one of our yards the old cement works. Lenny will know it. They stored these there they was going out like hot cakes. As soon as there bit of yard was full it was empty again.

 

[starquake]

I've been using the Mg4 more than I used the petrol car. Last Monday I went up to Greenwich to pick something up for my daughter and Tuesday took other daughter and family to Heathrow.
300 miles that would have been two months driving in the petrol car in two days. Didn't even mind being on the M25 in rush hour as all I had to do was steer, didn't touch the peddles, very relaxing to drive.

I wish they'd make modern motorhomes with the full auto-cruise on the modern EV's. It's criminal it's an "option" on petrol and diesel but included in nearly all EV's. Honestly don't think a lot of people buying petrol realise what they are missing in this.

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[Trev45]

In the August edition of the Which magazine they have introduced what they call Eco buy cars . The MG4 wasn't included due to only 2 stars for reliability .

 

[Lenny HB]

In the August edition of the Which magazine they have introduced what they call Eco buy cars . The MG4 wasn't included due to only 2 stars for reliability .

There were a few problems with the eairler ones mostly minor and I thought they had cured them.

 

[Lenny HB]

I wish they'd make modern motorhomes with the full auto-cruise on the modern EV's. It's criminal it's an "option" on petrol and diesel but included in nearly all EV's. Honestly don't think a lot of people buying petrol realise what they are missing in this.

After driving 300 miles in the car hopped in the Motorhome to go to Quackers rally it was like driving a dinosaur. Got close to the back of a few vehicles as it didn't slow down when on cruise.

 

[Jo May]

Going right back to your original post Lenny, we took a taxi recently, an MG, looked the same model as yours. The guy couldn't say enough nice things about it. 300+ range perfectly adequate for his round town work all day. Cheap to charge up and what's left of the battery warranty. He bought it 2 / 3 years old.

 

[gus-lopez]

Why, just why was my question to myself. What a bunch of selfish self centred tw**s

Quite common around here.
They use them as 'entitled' parking bays.

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[starquake]

After driving 300 miles in the car hopped in the Motorhome to go to Quackers rally it was like driving a dinosaur. Got close to the back of a few vehicles as it didn't slow down when on cruise.

You are totally correct dinosaur. Autocrise as you say makes M25 driving totally relaxing as you just don't worry about the stop start as the car just handles it seamlessly, including idiots pushing in. I avoid it (M25) in the motorhome, don't care in the EV these days.

 

[starquake]

Should say the mad thing with the EV like Lenny has found is the fact you can now just drive somewhere 100 miles away for what £2 each way, making things like for us the normal quarterly Costco run be actually monthly. Fuel being so cheap and the driving being so easy makes things like (as I'm doing today) driving a 60 mile round trip on an errand totally feasible where we'd batch up things in the old diesel car as the fuel at 12-15p a mile was cost prohibitive to drive and spend a tenner to save maybe £2 on buying something now versus online. Think about it our old Costco run was £30 in diesel, £4 now.

I suspect EV owners spend more in traditional shops due to the above, but I'm yet to see stats on that -> where I suspect petrol owners buy more online due to the costs of getting to shops.

 

[ontheroadagain]

For anyone that wouldn’t buy a MG EV, have a look at this -

 

[Odd-no-more]

My latest car doesn't have adaptive cruise control, my previous car did and I hated it. I found it kept slowing down to the speed of the slowest car. With normal cruise control, I notice I'm closing on the car in front, so look to overtake it.

 

[The Wino]

My latest car doesn't have adaptive cruise control, my previous car did and I hated it. I found it kept slowing down to the speed of the slowest car. With normal cruise control, I notice I'm closing on the car in front, so look to overtake it.

It depends what you set the sensitivity to on ours and if you are looking ahead you can always pull out into the next lane before it starts to slow you down. I think it's great. The other thing that's good is the alert if someone is crossing behind you when in reverse.

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